Don't Starve Together state

[Guille6785]

4 minutes ago, Hungry French said:

Now, my dear friend, do a few things.
1. Install DS on your computer
2. Log into the game, create a world and go down to the caves.
3. And understand that Klei for single player has not added cave content since 2012...
and only the multiplayer version of the game has received 2 times more than what is in the official single player game catalog that Klei positions...
Crying about the lack of DST content makes no sense, because the game is updated every 4 months, unlike DS, which is not updated even every 4 years.

dude, DS is a singleplayer game that was finished in 2013, it was never advertised as a live service game, complaining that it hasn't been been updated since then is like asking why Dark Souls hasn't received any updates since 2011, it was never even meant to have any, it's a one and done game, this whole thing you're doing going around random threads complaining that DS was "abandoned" is ridiculous

[Well-met]

I really don't get the appeal of DS1 now that a competent team has ported SW to DST and work has begun for Ham.

DS1 is obsolete and inferior in gameplay in every way to DST

[Radicaljoe]

15 minutes ago, Hungry French said:

Now, my dear friend, do a few things.
1. Install DS on your computer
2. Log into the game, create a world and go down to the caves.
3. And understand that Klei for single player has not added cave content since 2012...
and only the multiplayer version of the game has received 2 times more than what is in the official single player game catalog that Klei positions...
Crying about the lack of DST content makes no sense, because the game is updated every 4 months, unlike DS, which is not updated even every 4 years.

Yeah... I understand DS isn't updated anymore? What does that have to do with the complaint not making sense? 

[Hungry French]

1 minute ago, Guille6785 said:

чувак, DS — это одиночная игра, которая была закончена в 2013 году, она никогда не рекламировалась как игра с поддержкой, и жаловаться на то, что она не обновлялась с тех пор, — это всё равно что спрашивать, почему Dark Souls не получала никаких обновлений с 2011 года, она вообще не должна была их получать, это одноразовая игра, и то, что ты делаешь, ходя по случайным форумам и жалуясь, что DS «забросили», — это нелепо

It wasn't abandoned by DS. And they abandoned the single-player experience as a full-fledged game mode. 
Where is our version of DS, which will not be an unfinished, buggy miracle considered completed. 
Where is our real DS 2? Or at least a DST mode where there will be REAL solo worlds, REAL solo balance, REAL mechanics from DS and DLC's.
Klei has been ignored since the age of 15, that there are single players in DST too and they need to be taken care of, and all solo players praise Klei for not appreciating you and not doing anything for you for 10 years.
For Klei, single players are no more than an insignificant part of the audience for which it is not worth spending an hour of work.

It's not about DS, it's about Klei. It's wrong to compare Dark Souls and Don't Starve.
Dark Souls at least STILL has online support, but DS is just dead. 
Where is the new REAL solo DS. If the DS is completed, then give us a new DS. And not a pseudo-ugly under-sequel, which is considered a good solo game when the game is named TOGETHER, when events do NOT take place ALONE in the lore, when new mechanics are created for the interaction of SEVERAL PLAYERS, when Klei abandoned 3 shards world, Shipwrecked and Hamlet due to the fact that the MULTIPLAYER worlds will be incredibly laggy. and this WILL DIVIDE THE PLAYERS INTO DIFFERENT GAME MODES.

[Wawchik]

2 minutes ago, Hungry French said:

It wasn't abandoned by DS. And they abandoned the single-player experience as a full-fledged game mode. 
Where is our version of DS, which will not be an unfinished, buggy miracle considered completed. 
Where is our real DS 2? Or at least a DST mode where there will be REAL solo worlds, REAL solo balance, REAL mechanics from DS and DLC's.
Klei has been ignored since the age of 15, that there are single players in DST too and they need to be taken care of, and all solo players praise Klei for not appreciating you and not doing anything for you for 10 years.
For Klei, single players are no more than an insignificant part of the audience for which it is not worth spending an hour of work.

It's not about DS, it's about Klei. It's wrong to compare Dark Souls and Don't Starve.
Dark Souls at least STILL has online support, but DS is just dead. 
Where is the new REAL solo DS. If the DS is completed, then give us a new DS. And not a pseudo-ugly under-sequel, which is considered a good solo game when the game is named TOGETHER, when events do NOT take place ALONE in the lore, when new mechanics are created for the interaction of SEVERAL PLAYERS, when Klei abandoned 3 shards world, Shipwrecked and Hamlet due to the fact that the MULTIPLAYER worlds will be incredibly laggy. and this WILL DIVIDE THE PLAYERS INTO DIFFERENT GAME MODES.

Why does bro want REAL SOLO MODE for don't starve TOGETHER, and even if you want it that bad just install some balancing mods

[lowercase skye]

1 minute ago, Hungry French said:

Where is our real DS 2? Or at least a DST mode where there will be REAL solo worlds, REAL solo balance, REAL mechanics from DS and DLC's.

It's pretty normal for video game sequels to get rid of the majority of content from the last one: Shipwrecked was in fact supposed to do that! It was initially planned as a sequel to Don't Starve that was entirely sectioned off, and only got retooled into a DLC after enough outcry from the community.

If anything, we're lucky that Don't Starve 2 (that being DST) shares so much content with Don't Starve 1 at all.

[Hungry French]

14 minutes ago, Guille6785 said:

чувак, DS — это одиночная игра, которая была закончена в 2013 году, она никогда не рекламировалась как игра с поддержкой, и жаловаться на то, что она не обновлялась с тех пор, — это всё равно что спрашивать, почему Dark Souls не получала никаких обновлений с 2011 года, она вообще не должна была их получать, это одноразовая игра, и то, что ты делаешь, ходя по случайным форумам и жалуясь, что DS «забросили», — это нелепо

DST is a multiplayer game that was released in 2016 and has not been finished for almost 10 YEARS. 
I wonder how many more decades to wait for Klei to release another single game?
Or the new single-player game will last 2-3 years, because Klei will want to create DSTWO and milk one game and game style again for another 30 years, and players will praise Klei and forgive them anything. 
Even solo players that Klei doesn't give a **** about.

1 minute ago, Wawchik said:

Why does bro want REAL SOLO MODE for don't starve TOGETHER, and even if you want it that bad just install some balancing mods

A few? A FEW? In your opinion, Klei's great job is to make DST a really cool multiplayer game fixed by SEVERAL mods? 
This is a depreciation of Klei's 10 years of efforts on DST.

[Wawchik]

2 minutes ago, Hungry French said:

DST is a multiplayer game that was released in 2016 and has not been finished for almost 10 YEARS. 
I wonder how many more decades to wait for Klei to release another single game?
Or the new single-player game will last 2-3 years, because Klei will want to create DSTWO and milk one game and game style again for another 30 years, and players will praise Klei and forgive them anything. 
Even solo players that Klei doesn't give a **** about.

The game is not being milked, idk what you are on

[Hungry French]

3 minutes ago, Wawchik said:

Why does bro want REAL SOLO MODE for don't starve TOGETHER, and even if you want it that bad just install some balancing mods

Why do I want to? Because the real single mode is DS, but it has been abandoned, so DST needs its own single mode that will be supported. BECAUSE SOLO PLAYERS ARE ALSO PART OF THE DST AND THEY PAY MONEY.

[Wawchik]

3 minutes ago, Hungry French said:

Why do I want to? Because the real single mode is DS, but it has been abandoned, so DST needs its own single mode that will be supported. BECAUSE SOLO PLAYERS ARE ALSO PART OF THE DST AND THEY PAY MONEY.

The game is not unbearably hard solo, must be skill issues on your side. 

[Well-met]

He does have a point in that dst needs a solo option to disable generating servers and shard systems for people who have no use for the multiplayer environment, since that creates longer loadings and input delay.

[Well-met]

3 minutes ago, Wawchik said:

i think DSA does that? And it causes some bugs to happen, so I don't really know, but that's clearly not what he was trying to tell, you can see him mentioning balance in every post 

DSA works to some extent however its limited by these factors

1- needs to keep up with updates and requires constant work from the author, who will undoubtly one day disappear without a trace

2- even updated, DSA still causes sync issues with some mechanics especially cave rifts

3- incompatible with basically every single worldgen mod, such as uncompromising or island adventures etc etc

Klei having the engine sourcecode could do a way better job at this

[Chewabacca]

12 minutes ago, Hungry French said:

It wasn't abandoned by DS. And they abandoned the single-player experience as a full-fledged game mode. 
Where is our version of DS, which will not be an unfinished, buggy miracle considered completed. 
Where is our real DS 2? Or at least a DST mode where there will be REAL solo worlds, REAL solo balance, REAL mechanics from DS and DLC's.
Klei has been ignored since the age of 15, that there are single players in DST too and they need to be taken care of, and all solo players praise Klei for not appreciating you and not doing anything for you for 10 years.
For Klei, single players are no more than an insignificant part of the audience for which it is not worth spending an hour of work.

It's not about DS, it's about Klei. It's wrong to compare Dark Souls and Don't Starve.
Dark Souls at least STILL has online support, but DS is just dead. 
Where is the new REAL solo DS. If the DS is completed, then give us a new DS. And not a pseudo-ugly under-sequel, which is considered a good solo game when the game is named TOGETHER, when events do NOT take place ALONE in the lore, when new mechanics are created for the interaction of SEVERAL PLAYERS, when Klei abandoned 3 shards world, Shipwrecked and Hamlet due to the fact that the MULTIPLAYER worlds will be incredibly laggy. and this WILL DIVIDE THE PLAYERS INTO DIFFERENT GAME MODES.

? Believe it or not, Don't Starve is perfectly playable as is right now. The only thing that I really wish they would backport from DST is the pickup sounds. The ding-ding-ding all the time drives me crazy, to the point where I sometimes turn off the sound in DS when I pick a bunch of items up. Maybe some of the newer recipes as well, if I got greedy. Beyond that, a lot of DST-exclusive mechanics wouldn't really fit well into Don't Starve. DS is a game set in a bleak and unfamiliar world, where you try and eke out what you can. The absence is a big part of the game. DST has a lot of stuff that offers greater rewards in exchange for you putting in more thought/effort (I am not asking for debates over how much effort things require and whether it's balanced and all that, the general idea is what I'm getting at here). This is good fun for a game that wants to keep you hooked for longer, but would mess with DS's simpler, bleaker vibe if you tried to cram it in there.

Also, I paid all of $15 for the base version of Don't Starve. I feel like I got my money's worth from that.

If you're struggling with bosses solo in DST, maybe consider playing Wolfgang until you have the ropes down? Or avoiding them, even DST is perfectly playable without boss fights.

[AliceShiki]

3 hours ago, Hungry French said:

I wonder how many more decades to wait for Klei to release another single game?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2073250/Rift_of_the_NecroDancer/

Released just 2 months ago. And Lab Rat launches in April 15th, which may also be a Single Player game (I dunno, I haven't checked).

Yeah, sure, Klei didn't develop Rift of the NecroDancer, but you asked publish, so I shared a game they published.

3 hours ago, Hungry French said:

DST is a multiplayer game that was released in 2016 and has not been finished for almost 10 YEARS. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_service_game

[Hungry French]

10 hours ago, lowercase skye said:

Для сиквелов видеоигр вполне нормально избавляться от большей части контента из предыдущей игры: Shipwrecked на самом деле должна была это сделать! Изначально она планировалась как продолжение Don't Starve, которое было полностью отделено от него и превратилось в дополнение только после возмущения сообщества.

В любом случае, нам повезло, что Don’t Starve 2 (это DST) имеет так много общего с Don’t Starve 1.

The problem is that DST is not a sequel.  In essence, this is a multiplayer game that was released as a separate game.  And all its differences are content that could also have been implemented in DS if the developers hadn't wanted us to save money so that solo players wouldn't buy multiplayer.
Calling DST a sequel is just as silly as calling ER Nightreign a sequel.
A real DS sequel should be designed for single-player play, and Klei's desire to force us not to play alone is stupid. At the same time, we have a bunch of DS lore contradictions in the DST. And from the point of view of lore, we are obliged to play only in multiplayer. The very fact of playing DST in the amount of 1 person is no longer canonical. I'm already silent about the fact that from the point of view of lore there should be shipwrecked, hamlet and their characters. As well as things and features of RoG and DS, which were removed simply because. 
Even in the semi-annual DLC animation video, DS is shown as separate dimensions, just like New Home.

Are we lucky that DST has a lot in common with DS? I would say no. DST has taken over the DS content and ruined it with its desire to adapt it for multiple players. 
There would be no problem if DST had a full-fledged single mode, which Klei could explain to lore. But no, we don't have that.

10 hours ago, Wawchik said:

The game is not unbearably hard solo, must be skill issues on your side.

Guy. Read my messages carefully. I wasn't talking about complexity. 
DST is a disgusting abomination for solo players, not because of the complexity, but because of unrealized mechanics, changes to existing ones, and the fact that new mechanics are created for multiple players.
I'm not intimidated by the complexity. I play all kinds of games like HollowKnight, Super Meat Boy, From Software games, IWBTG and Boshy, and I also played Uncompromising mode.
Klei needs to think about solo players in Together, but Together is designed for multiplayer. But we DON'T HAVE ANY OPTIONS on how Klei can support the solo experience without adding it to their competitive game, which is even called Together.

10 hours ago, Chewabacca said:

? Believe it or not, Don't Starve is perfectly playable as is right now. The only thing that I really wish they would backport from DST is the pickup sounds. The ding-ding-ding all the time drives me crazy, to the point where I sometimes turn off the sound in DS when I pick a bunch of items up. Maybe some of the newer recipes as well, if I got greedy. Beyond that, a lot of DST-exclusive mechanics wouldn't really fit well into Don't Starve. DS is a game set in a bleak and unfamiliar world, where you try and eke out what you can. The absence is a big part of the game. DST has a lot of stuff that offers greater rewards in exchange for you putting in more thought/effort (I am not asking for debates over how much effort things require and whether it's balanced and all that, the general idea is what I'm getting at here). This is good fun for a game that wants to keep you hooked for longer, but would mess with DS's simpler, bleaker vibe if you tried to cram it in there.

Also, I paid all of $15 for the base version of Don't Starve. I feel like I got my money's worth from that.

If you're struggling with bosses solo in DST, maybe consider playing Wolfgang until you have the ropes down? Or avoiding them, even DST is perfectly playable without boss fights.

Yes, it's good. But she doesn't even have a tenth of the love that DST gets.
Because of this, we have bugs, bad textures, and half-empty worlds like caves that have..... entrance to the ruins... and... bunny and resource analogues from the surface...

Yes, it costs money to support DS, but what prevented Klei from spending money and time on adding multiplayer as a standalone DLC, but making it part of DS.
Or what prevented Klei from thinking in 2015 is that refusing to work on DS would make it so that single players would not receive content. Even in 2025, Klei still hasn't done anything to make DST a really good game for singles. 
And this is despite the fact that they see that they have single players, but they either consider them UNIMPORTANT or they just don't want to spend money to make a single mode. Lol, they can add a single player mode as a full-fledged DLC for Together and there they will have to rework the map generation, mechanics, game operation and the balance and functionality of different creatures, bosses and items.

8 hours ago, AliceShiki said:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2073250/Rift_of_the_NecroDancer/

Выпущена всего 2 месяца назад. А Lab Rat выйдет 15 апреля, и это тоже может быть игра для одного игрока (не знаю, я не проверял).

Yes, these are good games. But lol. We don't have a real Don't Starve Alone Experience 2.

 

8 hours ago, AliceShiki said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_service_game

Yes, DST is a game service, but why haven't we received what DS became popular for in 10 years in the game service? Alone mode.
Not even as a paid game mode, but it's really only worth releasing full-fledged DLC, because it's an extremely expensive process to turn DST into a solo game, and with each update, take into account how new things should be for single-player mode. 
For strange players, DST does not require a full-fledged paid single player mode. For them, DST will become a single player game immediately after adding a couple of mods.

[AliceShiki]

7 hours ago, Hungry French said:

Yes, DST is a game service, but why haven't we received what DS became popular for in 10 years in the game service? Alone mode.

Because it would take resources to develop that and wouldn't be particularly profitable when compared to just developing more content for DST.

Just business things, really.

[Hungry French]

6 minutes ago, AliceShiki said:

Потому что для его разработки потребовались бы ресурсы, и это не было бы особенно выгодно по сравнению с разработкой дополнительного контента для DST.

На самом деле, просто деловые вопросы.

Oh, the money. Yes, this is the main enemy of Don't Starve

[Chewabacca]

8 hours ago, Hungry French said:

Yes, it costs money to support DS, but what prevented Klei from spending money and time on adding multiplayer as a standalone DLC, but making it part of DS.
Or what prevented Klei from thinking in 2015 is that refusing to work on DS would make it so that single players would not receive content. Even in 2025, Klei still hasn't done anything to make DST a really good game for singles. 
And this is despite the fact that they see that they have single players, but they either consider them UNIMPORTANT or they just don't want to spend money to make a single mode. Lol, they can add a single player mode as a full-fledged DLC for Together and there they will have to rework the map generation, mechanics, game operation and the balance and functionality of different creatures, bosses and items.

Personally I can't say that I've ever had moments where DST felt like it was obviously expecting more from me than was reasonable to expect from a solo player. Could you please give some examples, because otherwise this point has me pretty confused?

Beyond that, my bet is that if you asked a Klei dev to make a version of Don't Starve with specifically a singleplayer audience in mind, they'd point you towards DS. I get that you'd rather play DST because it has more things to do, and so would I a lot of the time, but, again, that's a result of DST being a multiplayer game that tries to provide a fun time you can have with your friends on a regular basis. If the game was only focused on solo players, those features wouldn't exist.

[Hungry French]

14 hours ago, Chewabacca said:

Лично я не могу сказать, что у меня когда-либо были моменты, когда мне казалось, что DST явно ожидает от меня большего, чем можно было бы ожидать от одиночного игрока. Не могли бы вы привести несколько примеров, потому что в противном случае этот момент меня сильно смущает?

Кроме того, я готов поспорить, что если бы вы попросили разработчика Klei создать версию Don’t Starve, ориентированную на одиночную игру, он бы указал вам на DS. Я понимаю, что вы предпочли бы играть в DST, потому что там больше занятий, и я тоже часто так делаю, но, опять же, это связано с тем, что DST — многопользовательская игра, которая позволяет весело проводить время с друзьями на регулярной основе. Если бы игра была ориентирована только на одиночных игроков, этих функций не было бы.

Well, Klei could at least pay a little attention to playing solo in DST. Damn it. Is it really difficult to make a mini update at least once a year in order to slowly make DST better for single-player play ...
Although DS, apparently, has now switched to the basis of "holiday updates only".
That is, we should expect updates for DS only for the 15th anniversary, 20th anniversary and 25th anniversary... It sounds even crazier than the situation with Silksong and even Team Fortress 2.

[Milordo]

On 4/10/2025 at 7:36 PM, Hungry French said:

At the same time, Klei really knows how to create new things that complement the game like Salt Box. Which Klei could have made literally Ice Box 2.0, but made a neighbor for Ice Box.

What would the game be like if Klei really thought about the overall game balance and game progression, as well as what differences solo and multiplayer players should have...

 

I usually don't like all your passionate hatred towards dst but I also can't argue with these points, on which I agree and scream internally for years how different would be the game with just the magical key word, balance.

On 4/11/2025 at 5:04 AM, Guille6785 said:

I think the game's doing fine for the most part

Exactly....for the most part. But recent years more mistakes and fails emerge and are starting to undermine and ruins the experience more. That's why we're discussing it, because Klei has proven me wrong many times (of which I like it) that they do listen and try to fix their mistakes.  

[Milordo]

On 4/11/2025 at 7:21 AM, Catuna_ said:

--snip--

I'll just say this. We're totally on the same page. Since it's a lot to respond, I'll just try to do a quick short response with some minor details 1) I hate completely skill-trees (with logical and tons of objective reasons btw) but I get and like your points. You took the words out of my mouth "If it was up to me, I would just rework/buff characters that need it and introduce alignments as powerful perks that change how you interact with the game rather than an entire skill tree." Skill trees should just need a complete rework/overhaul of their mechanical system. Also unfortunately they do break the usual gameplay loop of DST  2) The thing is, already the game is niche and a lot of players are just casual that open the game for less than 2 hours and never re-open it again. I don't think it's really a problem. It's fine if a game is not for everybody and it still making a lot of money for Klei. You can introduce new hazards and dangers smartly without drowning new people. 3) Nothing to say it, bravo. 4) Yeahhh, he lost me too on the Wagstaff part. I still don't get it. 

[Milordo]

On 4/11/2025 at 5:42 PM, Radicaljoe said:

For the most part, I like what klei is doing. I understand they're trying to implement a harder mode to the more skilled players, which is a hard thing to do. I get that skilltrees are a sort of double fix, operating as rift kit upgrades, as well as second reworks for those characters that REALLY needed it. 

I have some minor complaints, some skilltree skills could and should have just been basekit changes, like Winona picking up her buildings...

Maybe not a lot of people remember or didn't know so I'll freshen-up your minds, but Klei stated on the Winona skill tree livestream that she should had to have the portable catapults basekit...........nobody noticed it and they completely did a fast turn because A) Klei stated also they don't like working on skill-trees lol, so they just wanted to fill the void with some points B) Winona is for sure not one of their favourites and didn't care about her and so slapped that point C) They didn't had in time some points to fill the blank and slapped the portable catapults and spotlights

On 4/11/2025 at 5:42 PM, Radicaljoe said:

I think my only actual complaint is klei doesn't seem to enjoy dwelling on previous update content. We did get an ocean update, which was really good because it was exactly what I wanted, it made an old area of content more enjoyable and accessible. But, it also came with moonquay cannon raids, which klei has never gone back to fix. Regular raids are annoying, but several times I've had these cannon idiots swim TOWARDS me then get mad I got to close to them. There is not enough reaction time to get ready for them, I literally pulled both my sails down getting ready for a regular raid, threw a banana on the floor for the tax, look  at the boat, and by the time I realized it was the cannon variant I already took 200 damage cannonball to the face and died, with a hole in my boat that sunk it. I think we're about one year into that change happening and klei has never gone back to fix them. It's not a bad thing to be focused on future content, but it's annoying when stuff gets added and its issues ignored forever.

Another example caves have had the issue of being empty since like what? 2014? And even now in 2025 they're still rather uneventful and can be boiled down to ruins-mushbiomes-archives-atrium-toadspawns-bulbbiome. I really like cave rifts because they add more life to the caves, granted all of it wants to kill me, but still it's more interesting than the 3 stalagmites and lichen that I'm used to. Which is good, they're adding into the world making it more alive, issue, have to essentially beat half the game to experience this cave experience upgrade.

YES! I joke it with my friends that Klei usually wake up in the morning, take a coffee with a pinch of cocaine and do all the crazy creative work, but once the coffee effect finishes in the afternoon, they're like "naah, I'm tired. Let's finish it here and slap it to the game" and never rivist it again, if not pressured by the community. Then next morning moving on the next project/idea and repeat the process.  

This is something they did......since ever. That's why I'm never nostalgic of old Don't Starve and Modern DST just showed this incredible only flaw of theirs becamed so bitterly in the long run and why I was so happy when they leaved the "each 2 months an update!" system in 2024.  

[Hungry French]

On 12.03.2025 at 00:51, Milordo said:

Я бы никогда, ни за что не подумал, что в 2025 году буду выкладывать видео с бородой, чтобы что-то доказать, но вот оно.

 

Я не знаю, что сказать, я потерял дар речи. Это видео находит отклик во мне, во всём. Я знаю, что публикация чего-то подобного, особенно если это beard777, может разозлить кого-то и поддеть кого-то, но я прошу всех непредвзятых людей рассказать мне, что вы об этом думаете. Что вы думаете о DST в последнее время, особенно после 2023 года, потому что я всё равно буду до последнего отстаивать свою точку зрения и думать, что эта «вторая эра» современного DST — плохая, а 2023 год был худшим (да, даже хуже, чем 2018 год для старых игроков) по сравнению с 2019–2022 годами, которые были лучшими в истории франшизы и лучшим временем для игры! Это не помогает, потому что в то же время я слишком занят на работе, чтобы сидеть дома и играть в DST. Не так давно я обнаружил пост @Pedrolar27, в котором уже высказывались эти мысли.

 

И, как всегда, да, деревья навыков — это плохо. Не волнуйтесь, я ещё вернусь к деревьям навыков, наберитесь терпения. Я знаю, что, возможно, кто-то всё ещё ждёт этого, лол.

The DST is getting bigger from year to year, but it is not getting better. Klei adds a lot of content that does not find its place in the game and does not fix lags, balance and does not transfer content from the DS. 
And remembering the worst moments of DST, keep the DS in your head, which was thrown into the trash after 4 years of development. For another 4 years, due to the pleas of the DS players, 2 more DLCs were added, and meanwhile the DS had no updates at all and did not try to be fixed until about the 10th anniversary and after. 
So the DST can just as easily be abandoned and thrown in the trash as the DS for the new "Don't Starve 3". ( Although the condition of the DST can be called satisfactory )
And Klei doesn't care at all what you think about Skill Tree or any other content.

[Maxil20]

5 hours ago, Hungry French said:

The DST is getting bigger from year to year, but it is not getting better.

This isn't true, though. Apart from the myriad of QOL improvements/tweaks that have happened over the years, there's also been a lot of content to improve the mid-lategame experience (Polar bearger bin is the obvious one, but things like elastispaced chests, pillars, and the entirety of rifts are welcome additions to improve the gameplay loop later on). This doesn't mean there hasn't been changes everyone liked or are positive about, given this thread exists, but I still consider most of the content from 2023-2025 to be Pretty Good tm overall.

Also, I still am confused why you believe DST is this extremely unbelievably hard game to even attempt/play solo, when there are very rarely do any of these things that specifically require another player, and 99.9% of the game's mechanics/gimmicks can be done solo. In my ~6 IRL year solo megabase world, the only things I felt like I truly cannot replicate solo is the ability to properly use the lazy deserter (as you need 2 players at minimum to warp, and even then you can still use it as an insanity source from rapid channeling and unchanneling), and some character interactions that specifically need 2+ players (Ex: Wortox's Twintailed heart). Otherwise, most of the things work perfectly fine weather you have 4 players or just 1 player. I have had minimal difficulty playing in this manner.

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On 4/12/2025 at 3:35 AM, Hungry French said:

The problem is that DST is not a sequel.

The words "A sequel of sorts. #2" have been on the title screen forever.

On 4/12/2025 at 3:35 AM, Hungry French said:

A real DS sequel should be designed for single-player play

But who are you to decide this? Don't Starve was released in 2013, and Don't Starve Together's closed beta began in 2014. There was a total of one singular year where Don't Starve was a single player-focused experience, followed by 11 years where multiplayer has been the main focus.