Lee lol Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 The most uncomfortable thing about DST winter is the thick snow, which makes you unable to see the ground clearly and makes your eyes feel tired. This also makes it almost impossible for you to build a base in winter - you can't see the ground clearly and can't accurately locate the building. I know this is part of the characteristics of DST. But can we give the broom a snow-sweeping function? Use a broom to point at a certain grid of land for a few seconds, you can clear the snow in a grid of land and get one or two ice cubes (if you have a winter feast, you will get snowballs), so that it is more convenient to decorate the base... Consideration of balance： I really don't think this will damage the balance of the game. This is more of a Qol change.Moreover, we can already eliminate some low-san picture shaking effects in the settings. This will not completely eliminate the negative effects of DST winter, because they can only clean up a small area of your base, and you will still be disturbed by snow when you go out to collect or fight bosses. I think this is reasonable and fair. Consideration of rationality: The idea was first inspired by the winter feast to make a snowman. Since we can pick up snowballs from the ground, why can't we clean up a small piece of snow on the ground? Consideration of interest/practicality: Protect your eyes. It makes it more convenient for you to build bases or fight bosses in winter, and you don't have to worry about not being able to see the land clearly. I believe it is very interesting to add a new broom formula or snow remover. It encourages people to explore the world more and can be combined with the snowman activity of the winter feast, where you have a chance of getting snowballs when you sweep the snow. Specific suggestions: We can upgrade the broom to a snow removal broom through some recipes. Or add a new formula to make a new broom with grass, branches, beards or something else; make a snowplow with gears, rubies and nightmare fuel. Other options: lower the saturation of snow in the settings for the health of the eyes，Just like we can turn off the picture distortion and shaking when being low san in the settings. Use salt and other things to make snow removers, similar to antiseptic spray, which is 100% durable. Clearing the snow on a grid of the ground will consume 1% of its durability, and salt can be used to supplement the durability. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brago-sama Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 Salt Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1782633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidankocherhans Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 It's also a big problem for the celestial champion, half its attacks are nearly invisible in winter Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1782637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edible Coal Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 1 hour ago, Brago-sama said: Salt you mean the SALT shaker 3000 ? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1782649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 2 hours ago, Brago-sama said: Salt Had you posted this when I still lived in Arizona I would have been so confused. Now that I live in Iowa and have experienced it first hand, holy cow do people love their salted paths. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1782659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSpoon Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 As a dark mode fan, DST snow is painful. My poor eyeballs burn. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1782690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee lol Posted December 28, 2024 Author Share Posted December 28, 2024 56 minutes ago, SilverSpoon said: As a dark mode fan, DST snow is painful. My poor eyeballs burn. There is a mod that can remove snow filters, but I don't like to use it very much. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1782698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auth Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 5 hours ago, Evelo said: Had you posted this when I still lived in Arizona I would have been so confused. Now that I live in Iowa and have experienced it first hand, holy cow do people love their salted paths. Not just Iowa! I live in Washington and can't even begin to eat my paths without them being salted first. Much more palatable. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1782701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 it's a downside of winter, it's supposed to be the hardest season and to make the world miserable. are we going to buff winter because you can't accept that? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1782724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee lol Posted December 28, 2024 Author Share Posted December 28, 2024 4 hours ago, Well-met said: it's a downside of winter, it's supposed to be the hardest season and to make the world miserable. are we going to buff winter because you can't accept that? Not only me. I believe many people don't like this. In addition, sweeping snow with a broom will not completely remove the snow in the world. It will only clear a small area, making it more convenient for you to build the base. Also, the shaking , earthquake and low san effect can be turned off in the settings, and I believe it is also fair to turn off or lower the saturation of the snow in the settings. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1782727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSpoon Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 38 minutes ago, Well-met said: it's a downside of winter, it's supposed to be the hardest season and to make the world miserable. are we going to buff winter because you can't accept that? This was previously a visual effect of Night Berries, but was changed after receiving overwhelming bad reputation from players. I don't want to call something causes damage players' sight or health a "Downside." Spoiler Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1782732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowercase skye Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 1 hour ago, Well-met said: it's a downside of winter, it's supposed to be the hardest season and to make the world miserable. Personally, I play videogames to have fun, not to be miserable and unhappy. The snow layer makes me miserable and unhappy, it strains my eyes even if I turn on a blue light filter, so I instead turn it off with a client mod. I think it's unfair that I have this option, but people who play on console or otherwise unmodded do not. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1782743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RozeMeteor Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 Winter in general is just painfull for the eyes at least for me, some characters even vanish amid the snow. Wish we could have options to set the constrast/saturation better. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1782745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee lol Posted December 28, 2024 Author Share Posted December 28, 2024 1 hour ago, SilverSpoon said: This was previously a visual effect of Night Berries, but was changed after receiving overwhelming bad reputation from players. I don't want to call something causes damage players' sight or health a "Downside." Hide contents It's so horrible. But I believe it's just a beta version of nightberry, otherwise I'll be blind. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1782746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi. Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 2 hours ago, Well-met said: it's a downside of winter, Not really? It's mostly for atmosphere and to make it look like winter Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1782749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steorra Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 2 hours ago, Well-met said: it's a downside of winter, it's supposed to be the hardest season and to make the world miserable. are we going to buff winter because you can't accept that? See, this is the downside of this forum, it's supposed to make every discussion here become salty. We'd better to enjoy it rather than to try to change it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1782751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yifei_ Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 21 hours ago, Well-met said: it's a downside of winter, it's supposed to be the hardest season and to make the world miserable. are we going to buff winter because you can't accept that? Seeing your sentence made me laugh out loud. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1782855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee lol Posted December 29, 2024 Author Share Posted December 29, 2024 31分钟前，Yifei_说： 看到你的句子，我笑出声来. I think the so-called "not in line with the theme of DST" is just an excuse for them to attack what they don't like. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1782860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 23 hours ago, Hi. said: Not really? It's mostly for atmosphere and to make it look like winter It hides roads and makes pitchfork work almost impossible. Do you think klei didn't intend that? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1782872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowercase skye Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 2 hours ago, Well-met said: Do you think klei didn't intend that? I think Klei probably intended for pitchforks to be used for the sole purpose of placing down artificial turf at your base to prevent lureplants from spawning, and nothing else. That is to say: after 11 years, a lot of the game's early design is flawed and outdated compared to how the playerbase actually plays the game, and it's not unreasonable to ask for ways to work around it. That being said, most every suggestion here has been for something either too expensive (salting every individual tile you want immune to snow) or too impractical (digging up every individual tile of snow every single winter) to realistically use on roads, so why are you so incredibly opposed to it? Will it destroy the game's balance if you could hypothetically spend hundreds of salt to, uhhhh... let you decorate your base easier, or to make roads visible with so much time invested that you could've tamed a beefalo? Is that really a stance worth insulting people over? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1782900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 On 12/29/2024 at 9:03 AM, Well-met said: It hides roads and makes pitchfork work almost impossible. Do you think klei didn't intend that? What do you suppose is the point of not being able to do this in winter, specifically? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1782917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimzowitsch10 Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 there's a client mod that removes all snow from ground. Klei will take several years to even consider this with the pace they are going. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1782919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 1 hour ago, Bumber64 said: What do you suppose is the point of not being able to do this in winter, specially? it's the same design as in DS1. it's a harsh season that nerfs alot of things. gardens shouldn't even work in winter, but somehow that got overlooked. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1782923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
00petar00 Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 17 minutes ago, Well-met said: it's the same design as in DS1. it's a harsh season that nerfs alot of things. gardens shouldn't even work in winter, but somehow that got overlooked. Some things developers just never considered and they are as they are. I don't believe that every single thing that is currently a negative is a downside. Why does every single QOL change suggestion need to go to downside/difficulty? That is part of the reason people aren't getting taken seriously when they actually suggest changes that make the game more difficult besides the building destruction. Farming wasn't overlooked as it was a somewhat recent addition so it was designed that way and it is still very bad food source, it might be a bit unrealistic but why does farming need a nerf? Games need to be designed so that it feels like you are not punishing yourself by doing something when better options exist and farming needs to get changes to make it more rewarding. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1782924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted December 30, 2024 Share Posted December 30, 2024 5 hours ago, Well-met said: it's the same design as in DS1. it's a harsh season that nerfs alot of things. gardens shouldn't even work in winter, but somehow that got overlooked. The difference is that you actually need to eat in winter. You don't need to mess with turfs, and the walking cane becomes accessible so roads are less important. It's a minor annoyance at best, excluding the eye strain (which isn't a gameplay feature). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162836-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%80%E6%8A%8A%E6%89%AB%E9%9B%AA%E7%9A%84%E6%89%AB%E5%B8%9A%E5%90%97%EF%BC%9F/#findComment-1782952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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