Periods between updates.

[GetNerfedOn]

Perhaps update frequency ought not to be considered at all in terms of update quality.

(Edit, forgot to put reason: because people are going to find something to complain about anyway regardless of frequency.) 

It must be observed that even with a more frequent update schedule established in the years prior (once per month) negative sentiments/complaints about how updates should go or how big or small they were or content thereof being diluted was still present.

Granted, I fully acknowledge was one of the most thoughtless instigators, but at the time even some weeks' worth of delay had people here crying out "where beta", which was what influenced me to create the poll I made then in the first place, followed by cycle of people crying out over things to complained about in every beta, ad nauseam until the next beta dropped.

I suppose that since updates were so frequent, the cycle of people finding new things to complain about was just as frequent. That being said, slowing down the pace, I feel, has also slowed down the complaint cycle regardless of update quality. 

And despite all that, Klei was still continuing to create updates, character refreshes, content, animated shorts, squash bugs and deal with plans such as the Tencent merger the year prior and perhaps plans for stuff in the works like the games they have now, all while dealing with COVID-19 at the time. Even still, Klei has upheld being open with the community and criticism with its quality of work.

So now the question is: did faster updates pump out less quality content, or did slower updates give better quality updates? While I am now inclined to disagree because I don't think it matters, so far the majority sentiment of the Forums is currently in the positive. It's the only indicator we have at the moment, and we still have one more update to go before we can fully judge the schedule to have been effective.

 

[Mx-Pain]

Should back to be 1-2 monthly updates.

These lately new releases are not that big and even tho are released full of bugs.

I love the game tho & appreciate all the hard work but is lacking constant content & sadly is the true.

[kroban]

I think the current period is fine, but I would have prefered an entire year dedicated to either skill trees or content. For skill trees maybe longer periods but getting big chunks, like 3, 4 or 5 skill trees at once. Having some characters with theirs while half the cast are still "raw" against more and more rift content sucks.

The last skill tree update will probably happen at the end of 2025, which IMO sucks, considering that 2 of my favourites (Walter and Warly) are outdated and in urgent need of their skill trees. I have friends that like playing Wanda or Wendy and they are also suffering A LOT right now because their kits got outdated real hard. And they are prob going to have to wait for another whole year to see their skill trees...

For the additional content and rifts and all that I prefer this actual schedule of 3-4 months. Its not that much time, its enough for fixing some bugs and taking feedback from the community, and Klei seems to be doing pretty good at that rate. But this whole rift arc still needs more updates to feel like something "complete", and since Klei is making these weird mixes I feel like it will take a really long time to see the whole picture.

 

[Radicaljoe]

The update schedule is fine imo. It's nice knowing klei can take a small breather and work on something for a longer period of time. However, I wish that patches came out faster. Example, currently gloombell will softlock you if you use it, and some dedicated servers have their caves completely blocked off. I'd like the fixes for those big issues fixed sooner, instead of being pushed with the smaller stuff too. Like, we will eventually get the fix, but it will also come with art fixes and other minor bug fixes that I think might be slowing the patch as a whole. I don't really understand how the whole update process works, but I imagine they could just push out the fixes for the game breaking stuff, then do a smaller patch later with the decorative and unusual crashes.  

[Waywarbler]

9 hours ago, Anis5240 said:

Because we should all be considerate to the devs too.

It's not like they weren't doing monthly updates before this. IIRC the announcement that they were taking longer to develop updates sounded a bit hesitant, as though they were worried it wouldn't work out.

I think 3 months per update is fine right now.

[Bumber64]

9 hours ago, dst_lover said:

a smell update

Next update name confirmed.

Characters require deodorant, get offended by certain mob and item odors. Merms dislike deodorant and attempt to destroy any flowers (including blooming wormwood) they encounter.

[Antynomity]

20 hours ago, Cruvimaster said:

3 months is already too long. In fact, many of the ambassadors don't even do DST live anymore because the game is so uninteresting.

The wait is not the reason for the ambassadors not streaming.

 

For an almost three times as long wait times we get basically the exact same amount of content, with the same issues and shortcomings/ dev shortcuts.

[Cruvimaster]

5 hours ago, Antynomity said:

The wait is not the reason for the ambassadors not streaming.

 

For an almost three times as long wait times we get basically the exact same amount of content, with the same issues and shortcomings/ dev shortcuts.

The fact is that the biggest ambassadors are no longer interested in DST. And this can be a thermometer to analyze what is happening with the game. I don't think the developers should simply ignore it.

And then the guy creates a targeted poll purposely omitting 1 and 2 months because he wants 6 months.

[Anis5240]

Just now, Cruvimaster said:

he wants 6 months.

Because I believe it's better? That Klei can do more content instead of this current "barely there" updates.

[Cruvimaster]

We could even have a major update every 6 or 12 months, but with minor updates in between.

Klei promised major updates every 3 months, but they are bringing average updates. They add monsters and items and that's it.

In addition, it is noticeable that Klei is having difficulty with the skill trees because they are more complex.

In one update they recycled the character skill trees (Worm, Willow and Wig) and in the last one they didn't even manage to bring new trees. Clearly 3 months is not enough for that.

7 minutes ago, Anis5240 said:

Because I believe it's better? That Klei can do more content instead of this current "barely there" updates.

Yes, you believe it is better. That is why you directed the poll to get the result you wanted. If you put 2 months, you could have that as the majority answer. And that is why you hid it in the forum. That is why your poll loses relevance to me.

[Anis5240]

11 minutes ago, Cruvimaster said:

you hid it in the forum

?????????

Look, even the 3 months period I consider those updates inferior. Especially with the previous update. And even then there's tons of bugs that exist after said update. Yes sure, I believe giving them more time would make them improve their work more. Is that wrong to think?

[Cruvimaster]

11 minutes ago, Anis5240 said:

?????????

Look, even the 3 months period I consider those updates inferior. Especially with the previous update. And even then there's tons of bugs that exist after said update. Yes sure, I believe giving them more time would make them improve their work more. Is that wrong to think?

In practice, it doesn't matter. The developers don't care about this and many other polls. It only serves to pass the time on the forum.

And if they were to consider the survey, 70% want up to 3 months, because if there was the option of 2 months that would perhaps be the majority.

[loonreaper]

Being on the Switch is like having 4-6 month updates already. I'll tell you now that you don't want that. 

[Anis5240]

1 hour ago, loonreaper said:

Being on the Switch is like having 4-6 month updates already.

Well we should all have updates standardized, don't you think?

[Well-met]

4 is the best and anyone who voted 3 is kidding themselves or is generally unaware of how things work

[Cassielu]

11 hours ago, Anis5240 said:

Look, even the 3 months period I consider those updates inferior.

Is those 2 weeks period updates before 2018 also inferior for you?

[Anis5240]

1 hour ago, Cassielu said:

Is those 2 weeks period updates before 2018 also inferior for you?

I don't play the game at that time lmao. But at the very least I'd say it's ok for the scale of what it did.

[CameoAppearance]

I'm not really concerned about the amount of time between updates. Whatever's fine as long as it's enough time to get each update into good shape, although I can also see the argument that smaller, closer-spaced updates make it easier to incorporate community feedback when Klei wants to take that on board.

[Lovens]

On 10/19/2024 at 6:55 PM, Anis5240 said:

It's been ages since I saw the big worm in my 2k+ (nearing 3k) days ever since the update launched. I only saw it once. Ever since then it's just the 3 regular worms.

By giving the devs longer time, they could peruse the other bugs that may seem rare but actually are very often to happen, like the Scrappig bug.

Same here. My last 6 or 7 depth worm waves didn't have a big worm in them and I didn't change any settings. My world is 10k days and I saw big worm only twice in it since the last big update came out. 

[Anis5240]

Well, it's about time I bring this post up again; with all the chaos the beta is going through, I remain adamant that 6 months for updates is still reasonable for Klei to do.

[dst_lover]

33 minutes ago, Anis5240 said:

Well, it's about time I bring this post up again; with all the chaos the beta is going through, I remain adamant that 6 months for updates is still reasonable for Klei to do.

No! 
what we need is an update every 2 weeks 

[Peasant]

On 10/20/2024 at 1:04 AM, Anis5240 said:

Meanwhile we have game-breaking bugs right now such as the gloombell, affinity merms, etc etc. And this happened after the current hotfix.

Gloom bell bug still exists? I thought they already dealt with that, after all it's just a letter typed wrong

[Anis5240]

1 hour ago, YXukun said:

I thought they already dealt with that

I suggest you read what date I typed that before commenting.

Also, there's still other bugs that need fixing like that double Scrappig and 'jesus' Frostjaw.

[Anis5240]

How we feeling bout that last announcement, folks? I'm so ashamed that y'all ain't willing to give Klei more time for doing updates.

[Well-met]

3 months for skill trees is very much reasonable.

The reasons why it failed this time now are numerous and some were unexpected. 

Alot of the blame can be put on crybabies holding development back, because klei listens a little tad too well.