Thoughts on the worm boss?

[Echsrick]

good thing you can just use world settings to not make it appear, now if we get that for varglet too

[Arcwell]

I'm not terribly excited about the greater depths worm but at the same time it's not a boss that I actively dislike such as Scrappy Werepig. I think it's actually pretty fun to discover the rhythm of fighting the boss, although once you do find that it's a lot like fighting a treeguard, which is a little boring.

Mostly I don't like that it requires RNG to spawn 
I don't mind it coming for the player but I do mind it not coming at all.

EDIT: The loot destruction should definitely be addressed as well. Would make sense for the boss to drop nondigestable items it has eaten when it dies (although you could still run into problems with it despawning, that is a conundrum)

[Milordo]

 

34 minutes ago, dois raios said:

because right now, if it kills you and consume your stuff, its over... you will never see your items again. (bye helmets, repair kits, swords, bearger bin, celestial crown, walking cane, EVERYTHING will be destroyed if the worm do the eating animation)

at least the backpack is safe XD

 

hot damn this is serious

[nimzowitsch10]

@ADM I guess this is the one way that they made fossils renewable, not sure why you're so happy with 1 fossil piece for a boss.

Idk what you will do with the hundreds of fossils u already got from spilagmites though.

[gaymime]

2 hours ago, Mysterious box said:

I mean to be fair without hours of experience spider queen is a very real threat too you can get swarmed easier if your not prepared especially since they usually spawn near spider dens add to that the fact she can heal and a less experienced player might not think to kill the nurses.

One could say well it's pretty easier once you know how to fight it but the same applies to the worm.

hm? sorry for being confused but i didn't say anything about spider queen?

[Bumber64]

4 hours ago, DegenerateFurry said:

It doesn't actually one-hit kill you, it just brings you down to extremely low HP if it vores you, and the attack that does that's a very easy attack to dodge.

It can to Wanda, as well as anyone who gets hit by spikes on the way out.

[Y0sH]

2 hours ago, Bumber64 said:

It can to Wanda, as well as anyone who gets hit by spikes on the way out.

A few hours ago with a Dread helmet and nightmare body armor Middle aged Wanda I absolutely concur that it will indeed 1 shot you if you get swallowed lol.

[arubaro]

6 hours ago, gaymime said:

make it make sense, bro. saying a casual's ego got hurt is the reason why people keep saying "too easy" makes no sense at all. please read a comment before replying

No, is the reason why you wrote the previous message

People answer "is easy" because it is and if klei reads otherwise they might nerf what doesnt need to be nerfed.  You feeling the need to atack when reading this comments clearly means that hurts you having problems to kill the worm while others havent

[gaymime]

4 minutes ago, arubaro said:

No, is the reason why you wrote the previous message

People answer "is easy" because it is and if klei reads otherwise they might nerf what doesnt need to be nerfed.  You feeling the need to atack when reading this comments clearly means that hurts you having problems to kill the worm while others havent

what gives you any indication i am hurt? i have enjoyed the great worm in beta and up until about 8ish minutes ago when my game crashed i was looking forward to fighting them in my long-term.

you are reading a lot of things that aren't there and never were. someone asked (a bit hyperbolicly) why people keep saying this boss is too easy. i said it is a combination of the forum having people who have played so much their perspectives are skewed and because tryhards will do what tryhards do and call anything too easy. do you feel like you are someone who makes wide-sweeping inaccurate claims that the worm mini-boss can be beaten by standing very still and holding the attack key? unless you feel that you are indeed that kind of person AND you feel that you must make up what you think my feelings ought to be to justify your claim then you are not actually saying anything related to my comment(and if you are i would certainly hope you take a few minutes to reflect on what you are doing with yourself).

[arubaro]

45 minutes ago, gaymime said:

what gives you any indication i am hurt? i have enjoyed the great worm in beta and up until about 8ish minutes ago when my game crashed i was looking forward to fighting them in my long-term.

you are reading a lot of things that aren't there and never were. someone asked (a bit hyperbolicly) why people keep saying this boss is too easy. i said it is a combination of the forum having people who have played so much their perspectives are skewed and because tryhards will do what tryhards do and call anything too easy. do you feel like you are someone who makes wide-sweeping inaccurate claims that the worm mini-boss can be beaten by standing very still and holding the attack key? unless you feel that you are indeed that kind of person AND you feel that you must make up what you think my feelings ought to be to justify your claim then you are not actually saying anything related to my comment(and if you are i would certainly hope you take a few minutes to reflect on what you are doing with yourself).

Just saw unnecessary the comment when people are just discussing the balance of something.

And there is the C reason people is saying it and is because isnt a hard boss for their job, is a lategame miniboss to replace many worms, is totally fair considering the powercreep of characters and how the early game is easier and we get many tools in late 

[00petar00]

1 hour ago, arubaro said:

People answer "is easy" because it is and if klei reads otherwise they might nerf what doesnt need to be nerfed.  You feeling the need to atack when reading this comments clearly means that hurts you having problems to kill the worm while others havent

You are often very aggressive against any change or nerf and always take a very drastic completely opposite stance that it often looks like you are lying or just saying things so klei doesn't do anything to make it more enjoyable to people that ask for changes. This just means that klei shouldn't take your feedback seriously.

We have gotten to many destruction mechanics in the last 2 years and we didn't need worm boss that can destroy whole base in caves. There could've been many other options to make the boss even harder to fight but make it reasonable for people that have other issues with it.

I don't want to lose all items and die every time I get eaten by this boss which can easily happen to Wanda mains.

Overall worm boss is too punishing without even considering how easy or hard he is to kill and doesn't give proportional rewards.

 

[gaymime]

16 minutes ago, arubaro said:

Just saw unnecessary the comment when people are just discussing the balance of something.

And there is the C reason people is saying it and is because isnt a hard boss for their job, is a lategame miniboss to replace many worms, is totally fair considering the powercreep of characters and how the early game is easier and we get many tools in late 

not sure where you came to the conclusion that the correct thing to do in that case was to make a comment of the same type if you felt the original was unnecessary

i wouldnt call it "late-game". i haven't done any of the steps in the celestial or the atrium routes and i still got two great worms and five regulars in this wave which puts my sub 500 day world still pretty close to early-game. it might be a bug but from what i have seen(running the same day 6 times and getting no less than 5 regular worms and no less than 2 great worms each time) but the mob isn't really following hound-wave rules

 

2 minutes ago, 00petar00 said:

I don't want to lose all items and die every time I get eaten by this boss which can easily happen to Wanda mains

 

wes and maxwell too x''D the "got no health" club is a lot bigger than one would hope, haha

[00petar00]

7 minutes ago, gaymime said:

wes and maxwell too x''D the "got no health" club is a lot bigger than one would hope, haha

I thought they could survive with good armor (90%+) but nice to know that Wanda isn't the only one.

[Captain_Rage]

10 hours ago, Milordo said:

And he is! I don't know why Memetan thought that, when he is factually 100% boss. 

No one is the boss of Willow so he has a point that it is a matter of perspective.

[Anis5240]

19 minutes ago, 00petar00 said:

There could've been many other options to make the boss even harder to fight but make it reasonable for people that have other issues with it.

This I agree with. Why not set up an area where players can go there to fight the worm? We have plenty of caves biomes that barely have anything useful. One of such places should be modified for the giant worm's arena.

[gaymime]

 wes can be eaten exactly once while wearing a thul suit. i must confess i havent tried maxwell outside of the beta phase but he just straight up died so unless that got changed in the last week or so i would think it is the same(both max out at 75 health)