Reiko24 Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 A buff to the Glowcaps (Klei, no one uses this item. Toadstool is a pain to fight that is not even justified, because the Glowcaps/Mushlights are entirely useless because of the light radius, brightness, and the price that is needed for making multiple of them.) My proposed solution would make Infinite Light require killing Celestial Champion first, just like it is now, but make Glowcaps better at their job, and cheaper to fuel. You probably get the point. Almost all characters say that Pure Brilliance is EXTREMELY bright and blinds them. No character ever says that the Enlightened Shard even emits any light. The Crown itself needs a sane wielder, why would a Shard emit light on its own? SUGGESTION: Make Glow Caps accept Pure Brilliance, and increase the light brightness and radius with each Pure Brilliance. One Pure Brilliance would be as powerful as one Enlightened Shard. 4 Pure Brilliances would be as strong as 4 Enlightened Shards right now, making the maximum Light Radius and Brightness much much bigger. Most of the people here do not use Glowcaps/Mushlights, and they don't even fight Toadstool, because the painful fight itself is not worth it. If the boss drop would at least be worth it, Toadstool would be a bit redeemed in the eyes of the players. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158235-pure-brilliance-in-glowcaps/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 i fight toad on practically every playthrough for the fun of it but usually end up leaving shroom skin there because there's nothing useful to use it on, maybe toad could drop like 10 or 20 nap sacks even if not misery so that they could get used for other bosses Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158235-pure-brilliance-in-glowcaps/#findComment-1734854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiko24 Posted July 12, 2024 Author Share Posted July 12, 2024 Just now, grm9 said: i fight toad on practically every playthrough for the fun of it but usually end up leaving shroom skin there because there's nothing useful to use it on, maybe toad could drop like 10 or 20 nap sacks even if not misery so that they could get used for other bosses Yeah, there are some people who like fighting Toadstool. I respect that. But I see you kinda agree? You end up leaving the shroom skin there because "There is nothing useful to use it on". Would making the Glowcaps actually useful make you take the skins? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158235-pure-brilliance-in-glowcaps/#findComment-1734856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 1 minute ago, Reiko24 said: Would making the Glowcaps actually useful make you take the skins? i wouldn't mind the change but no, i still wouldn't use them because i usually don't make bases so stationary light that can't be quickly moved'd still be mostly useless Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158235-pure-brilliance-in-glowcaps/#findComment-1734857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiko24 Posted July 12, 2024 Author Share Posted July 12, 2024 1 minute ago, grm9 said: i wouldn't mind the change but no, i still wouldn't use them because i usually don't make bases so stationary light that can't be quickly moved'd still be mostly useless I see. Thank you for your input! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158235-pure-brilliance-in-glowcaps/#findComment-1734858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmonkey Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 They made it quite a bit easier to farm Celestial Champion with the somewhat recent moonstorm changes. Light is one of the hard parts of don't starve, and making it trivially, infinitely available with pure brilliance doesn't really make sense. What's the point of engaging with CC after that? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158235-pure-brilliance-in-glowcaps/#findComment-1734946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 1 hour ago, chaosmonkey said: They made it quite a bit easier to farm Celestial Champion with the somewhat recent moonstorm changes. Light is one of the hard parts of don't starve, and making it trivially, infinitely available with pure brilliance doesn't really make sense. What's the point of engaging with CC after that? They made it easier but still gotta fight celestial champion. I guess that's the cost of forever light, kinda still sad. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158235-pure-brilliance-in-glowcaps/#findComment-1734978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiko24 Posted July 12, 2024 Author Share Posted July 12, 2024 2 hours ago, chaosmonkey said: They made it quite a bit easier to farm Celestial Champion with the somewhat recent moonstorm changes. Light is one of the hard parts of don't starve, and making it trivially, infinitely available with pure brilliance doesn't really make sense. What's the point of engaging with CC after that? Then not pure brilliance, just make additional shards actually do something. Why don't more shards equal more light? Insane. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158235-pure-brilliance-in-glowcaps/#findComment-1734988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmonkey Posted July 12, 2024 Share Posted July 12, 2024 4 hours ago, Reiko24 said: Then not pure brilliance, just make additional shards actually do something. Why don't more shards equal more light? Insane. yeah, glowcap radius needs a buff. I'd be fine with this if it actually gave meaningful radius increase. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158235-pure-brilliance-in-glowcaps/#findComment-1735043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirsg Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 14 hours ago, Reiko24 said: No character ever says that the Enlightened Shard even emits any light. The Crown itself needs a sane wielder, why would a Shard emit light on its own? The logic is that enlightened shards are an energy source. Not just a source of "Light" all but confirmed when used in Winona's generators. 2 hours ago, chaosmonkey said: yeah, glowcap radius needs a buff. I'd be fine with this if it actually gave meaningful radius increase. It's infinite light. Only just a few years ago, we were begging for this and Klei gave it to us. There are those who consider the 'slippery slope' a fallacy, yet here we are. We have infinite light and I think it's fine where it is. Darkness is still a hazard to manage. We're still playing a survival game Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158235-pure-brilliance-in-glowcaps/#findComment-1735066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted July 13, 2024 Share Posted July 13, 2024 eh, i think shards in glowcaps are fine in there current state, they aren't super bright but they do actually function as intended and do offer infinite light if you are so needful in having infinate light that you'd do all of the work to get it. desiring more options for the same effect then on top of that asking for the effect to be changed to be better and more beneficial then on top of that ask for the new buffed multi-option thing be less costly than the current version to make and use feels... well, gluttonous. it feels like you are asking just for the sake of asking at this point Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158235-pure-brilliance-in-glowcaps/#findComment-1735083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiko24 Posted July 13, 2024 Author Share Posted July 13, 2024 7 hours ago, chirsg said: The logic is that enlightened shards are an energy source. Not just a source of "Light" all but confirmed when used in Winona's generators. It's infinite light. Only just a few years ago, we were begging for this and Klei gave it to us. There are those who consider the 'slippery slope' a fallacy, yet here we are. We have infinite light and I think it's fine where it is. Darkness is still a hazard to manage. We're still playing a survival game 2 hours ago, gaymime said: eh, i think shards in glowcaps are fine in there current state, they aren't super bright but they do actually function as intended and do offer infinite light if you are so needful in having infinate light that you'd do all of the work to get it. desiring more options for the same effect then on top of that asking for the effect to be changed to be better and more beneficial then on top of that ask for the new buffed multi-option thing be less costly than the current version to make and use feels... well, gluttonous. it feels like you are asking just for the sake of asking at this point Activating infinite light from moonstorms is 10000000000000 times better than glowcaps. It is not gluttonous, to ask for a boss item equipped with a final boss item to be just a bit stronger, to make moonstorms less worth it after you farm for glowcaps. Also I didn't ask for the item to be extremely strong. Just make it not as dim as it currently is. rn you need a glowcap every 4 tiles, that's insane. Edit: And the perma full moons are actually even more powerful. They make pig farms more efficient, they let you transform star caller's staves, etc. Not to mention they are basically a FREE SIDE EFFECT of wanting to fight CC. 7 hours ago, chirsg said: Darkness is still a hazard to manage. We're still playing a survival game moonstorm induced infinite full moons i have them enabled 24/7 i forgot darkness even is a threat 7 hours ago, chirsg said: The logic is that enlightened shards are an energy source. Not just a source of "Light" batteries do not produce light, neither do gems that are also an energy source for Winona. this does not make sense Edit: if something is emitting lots of light, it is also a potential source of energy. Something emits light = has lots of energy that dissipates through heat/light/ etc. so you could say the same thing about pure brilliance. It is also a source of energy. It can also be used in Winona's machines. So, how about the Glowcaps still needing an Enlightened Shard, but if you want a bigger radius, you need an another shard and 2 pure brilliance? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/158235-pure-brilliance-in-glowcaps/#findComment-1735097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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