Veyred Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 I would really love for this to be added in , and replace the currently underwhelming Mental Fluidity skills, the swimming skill itself would be at the end of the amphibian tree and to keep the amount of skills the same the first skill in the tree would be a new one that unlocks some new uses for fish, like for example using the needlenosed fish for sewing or using the lionfish as a spiky hambat replacement. Honest the main reason i want swiming is cause theres so many references to wurt and merms swimming( her newest skin even talks about ancient merms living in the ocean!) and because it would synergize very well with her other wetness skills, also its super akward and unimersive to keep up wetness with waterballoons instead of just going swimming. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157812-still-holding-out-hope-for-wurt-swiming/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Daemon Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 1 hour ago, Veyred said: I would really love for this to be added in , and replace the currently underwhelming Mental Fluidity skills, The thought of this happening over wilsons torch skill rework made me giggle. Would be real funny if it did. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157812-still-holding-out-hope-for-wurt-swiming/#findComment-1731447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 1 hour ago, Veyred said: I would really love for this to be added in , and replace the currently underwhelming Mental Fluidity skills, the swimming skill itself would be at the end of the amphibian tree and to keep the amount of skills the same the first skill in the tree would be a new one that unlocks some new uses for fish, like for example using the needlenosed fish for sewing or using the lionfish as a spiky hambat replacement. Honest the main reason i want swiming is cause theres so many references to wurt and merms swimming( her newest skin even talks about ancient merms living in the ocean!) and because it would synergize very well with her other wetness skills, also its super akward and unimersive to keep up wetness with waterballoons instead of just going swimming. Not to give you too much hope but we are still waiting on at least one more update since the devs said they would be fixing normal merms doing tool damage when they're holding tools. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157812-still-holding-out-hope-for-wurt-swiming/#findComment-1731449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopuleasa Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 I do not rely on hope But I do want florp float Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157812-still-holding-out-hope-for-wurt-swiming/#findComment-1731473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant wolf Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 56 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: Not to give you too much hope but we are still waiting on at least one more update since the devs said they would be fixing normal merms doing tool damage when they're holding tools. On stream, they also mentioned looking into making the rose vine bridge work in caves somehow(and I'm pretty sure wormhole was mentioned as well?), but it was also said, that they'd need to "deal with some technical things in the caves first", so uh. Might be some time till that one comes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157812-still-holding-out-hope-for-wurt-swiming/#findComment-1731482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 2 minutes ago, skile said: On stream, they also mentioned looking into making the rose vine bridge work in caves somehow(and I'm pretty sure wormhole was mentioned as well?), but it was also said, that they'd need to "deal with some technical things in the caves first", so uh. Might be some time till that one comes. Kinda wish they'd bring back the swamp turf bridge the staff used to make... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157812-still-holding-out-hope-for-wurt-swiming/#findComment-1731484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenomeSquirrel Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 Honestly, I like that ocean swimming is not tied to an amphibian skill tree, amphibians generally don't get along with salt water, if anything I'd tie wetness to the swamp turf that ought to be wet. Although I still think there's a better case that Merm's are reptiles, with hybrids like moose/goose around, making a distinction is overly rigid. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157812-still-holding-out-hope-for-wurt-swiming/#findComment-1731489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant wolf Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 Just now, Mysterious box said: Kinda wish they'd bring back the swamp turf bridge the staff used to make... I think this stuff is fun, but I'm assuming the problem is how the game handles the player(&maybe structures) being over the void, when the temporary ground breaks. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157812-still-holding-out-hope-for-wurt-swiming/#findComment-1731490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopuleasa Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 13 minutes ago, skile said: On stream, they also mentioned looking into making the rose vine bridge work in caves somehow(and I'm pretty sure wormhole was mentioned as well?), but it was also said, that they'd need to "deal with some technical things in the caves first", so uh. Might be some time till that one comes. The technical "thing" is removing void walking, which would kill the speedrun community lol Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157812-still-holding-out-hope-for-wurt-swiming/#findComment-1731493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant wolf Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 Just now, loopuleasa said: The technical "thing" is removing void walking, which would kill the speedrun community lol yep. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157812-still-holding-out-hope-for-wurt-swiming/#findComment-1731494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veyred Posted July 2, 2024 Author Share Posted July 2, 2024 18 minutes ago, GenomeSquirrel said: Honestly, I like that ocean swimming is not tied to an amphibian skill tree, amphibians generally don't get along with salt water, if anything I'd tie wetness to the swamp turf that ought to be wet. Although I still think there's a better case that Merm's are reptiles, with hybrids like moose/goose around, making a distinction is overly rigid. theres actually an amphibian that can endure somewhat salty water... and its a frog! google "crab-eating frog" for information. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157812-still-holding-out-hope-for-wurt-swiming/#findComment-1731507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 1 hour ago, loopuleasa said: The technical "thing" is removing void walking, which would kill the speedrun community lol I mean they still might be in trouble if they're still planning to implement it for Winona... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157812-still-holding-out-hope-for-wurt-swiming/#findComment-1731534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Noel Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 1 hour ago, loopuleasa said: The technical "thing" is removing void walking, which would kill the speedrun community lol Would it? They obviously need to make finding atrium easier but from what I've seen they only use it to get to FW or like AG or something. Navigating atrium would be a pain though, I guess. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157812-still-holding-out-hope-for-wurt-swiming/#findComment-1731538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Webber Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 I think, instead of replacing mental fluidity, it should replace the skill that allows other players to walk as fast as Wurt on Marsh turf Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157812-still-holding-out-hope-for-wurt-swiming/#findComment-1731565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybers2001 Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 Merms are freshwater. Wurt’s swimming should be limited to the oasis lake. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157812-still-holding-out-hope-for-wurt-swiming/#findComment-1731583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 After playing Reworked (skill tree) Winona, I can safely say that her skill tree seems to solidify that Wagstaffs original role has absolutely been replaced by her and won’t ever be a playable character in DST. (they can always do fun NEW projector related gameplay for playable Wagstaff in DST.. but for his original gameplay, New Winona pretty much covers most of it.) Wurt being allowed to swim would remove Walani’s potential to join the game (unless she was heavily reworked) So the fact that all this time HAS passed and Wurt still hasn’t had swimming added as a gameplay feature tells me one thing: Klei may be intentionally ignoring giving her this ability because they have plans to bring in Walani later. I can hope so anyway. *Sad Otter Face* Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157812-still-holding-out-hope-for-wurt-swiming/#findComment-1731589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 26 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: Wurt being allowed to swim would remove Walani’s potential to join the game (unless she was heavily reworked) No I think grass boats did that. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157812-still-holding-out-hope-for-wurt-swiming/#findComment-1731600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshyds Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 1 hour ago, cybers2001 said: Merms are freshwater. Wurt’s swimming should be limited to the oasis lake. in lore they literally swam to the constant, also dst isint a logical game Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157812-still-holding-out-hope-for-wurt-swiming/#findComment-1731633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keigo Posted July 2, 2024 Share Posted July 2, 2024 i wasnt on board with this idea, but after seeing winonas bridges, she could use something like that where she can swim for 2-4 seconds before drowning, to jump small gaps of land. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157812-still-holding-out-hope-for-wurt-swiming/#findComment-1731642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddget Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 20 hours ago, Veyred said: I would really love for this to be added in , and replace the currently underwhelming Mental Fluidity skills, the swimming skill itself would be at the end of the amphibian tree and to keep the amount of skills the same the first skill in the tree would be a new one that unlocks some new uses for fish, like for example using the needlenosed fish for sewing or using the lionfish as a spiky hambat replacement. Honest the main reason i want swiming is cause theres so many references to wurt and merms swimming( her newest skin even talks about ancient merms living in the ocean!) and because it would synergize very well with her other wetness skills, also its super akward and unimersive to keep up wetness with waterballoons instead of just going swimming. Wurt's wetness skills already focus on water, so swimming would be a natural extension and make those skills even more powerful. It would also make water balloons less necessary for maintaining wetness. Also maybe different swimming depths could unlock new abilities or resources(she could dive for treasure for example :p) or maybe Wurt could befriend some water creatures while swimming. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157812-still-holding-out-hope-for-wurt-swiming/#findComment-1731793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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