Y0sH Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 I have over 2k hours with Wanda and the most prevalent issue I've had with this character is her inventory. Watch pieces, Ageless Watches, Alarming Clock, 2nd Chance Watch and Backtreck watches eat inventory space. Not to mention the slot that will be inevitably reserved for nightmare fuel. I get this character is supposed to be the "Glass Cannon" and any talk of her seems to just jump to "she's OP she doesn't need changes." but i disagree. I think a small upgrade to her kit would be amazing with a pouch that can ONLY hold watches and the related items even if it's only 4 slots that can stay open on screen much like Wilson's beard storage. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
dst_lover Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 4 minutes ago, Y0sH said: I have over 2k hours with Wanda and the most prevalent issue I've had with this character is her inventory. Watch pieces, Ageless Watches, Alarming Clock, 2nd Chance Watch and Backtreck watches eat inventory space. Not to mention the slot that will be inevitably reserved for nightmare fuel. I get this character is supposed to be the "Glass Cannon" and any talk of her seems to just jump to "she's OP she doesn't need changes." but i disagree. I think a small upgrade to her kit would be amazing with a pouch that can ONLY hold watches and the related items even if it's only 4 slots that can stay open on screen much like Wilson's beard storage. i think this will be add on her skill tree Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/#findComment-1729462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmonkey Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 12 minutes ago, Y0sH said: supposed to be the "Glass Cannon" I really hope this becomes true some day. At least vs lunar mobs. Wolfgang was already doing more DPS before his skill tree and now it's not even close. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/#findComment-1729463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y0sH Posted June 26, 2024 Author Share Posted June 26, 2024 25 minutes ago, dst_lover said: i think this will be add on her skill tree My fear is that her Skilltree will be so far into the future that we wont see it implemented for a very long time. This just seems like something that could be easily added to her base kit and a Skilltree later can build upon it with maybe more slots and a cooldown reduction for watches inside the pouch etc.. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/#findComment-1729464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 35 minutes ago, Y0sH said: I have over 2k hours with Wanda and the most prevalent issue I've had with this character is her inventory. Watch pieces, Ageless Watches, Alarming Clock, 2nd Chance Watch and Backtreck watches eat inventory space. Not to mention the slot that will be inevitably reserved for nightmare fuel. I get this character is supposed to be the "Glass Cannon" and any talk of her seems to just jump to "she's OP she doesn't need changes." but i disagree. I think a small upgrade to her kit would be amazing with a pouch that can ONLY hold watches and the related items even if it's only 4 slots that can stay open on screen much like Wilson's beard storage. Its her only true downside. Though tbh inventory problems are kinda unfun i kinda wish they could do some qol to it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/#findComment-1729465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 Inventory management is one of her few weaknesses and the reason you wont see people with tons of healing and kitting watches Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/#findComment-1729469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 i dunno, she is already really powerful in the hands of an at least moderately capable player, having her have 0 downsides on top of being one of the four strongest characters in the game seems like it would just further mess up the meta and tighten the already restrictive power-pipeline that discourages people from playing the characters they like without being harangued for not picking the strong ones, you know? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/#findComment-1729475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 a fair trade-off considering her powers Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/#findComment-1729479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshyds Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 I think inventory management should be a fundemental weakness of hers Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/#findComment-1729480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sesekriri Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 I actually hope they don't, and make her watches even more potent. I think the idea of a character with incredibly powerful abilities but half or 2/3rds inventory size if using those abilities is interesting. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/#findComment-1729481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruvimaster Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 2 hours ago, Y0sH said: I get this character is supposed to be the "Glass Cannon" and any talk of her seems to just jump to "she's OP she doesn't need changes." but i disagree. Wolfgang is laughing at the lies about who is the real cannon in the game with a simple shadow sword and dealing 176 damage and 200 health to be able to use any armor with 80% damage reduction. But if Wolfgang wants, he can also use one with 95% protection and no penalty (Marble Suit). Meanwhile Wanda deals 142 damage while having less than 27 health points. And this 142 is slow damage compared to melee weapons (dps). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/#findComment-1729483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 Doesn’t giving these characters additional storage space kind of defeat the entire purpose of giving them items to fill their inventory up with anyway? I don’t like this idea.. with Wigfrid it sort of made sense to have a battle scroll canister (since she also got several new items to eat up inventory slots) but it would make no sense at all to give Wanda a watch pouch. Shes intended to be a glass canon, and I really hope Klei adds a few things to her that make this even more so. My personal idea of a fitting nerf to a so called “Glass Canon” would be to make her lose amounts of her own health while hitting things with the alarming clock (like a reverse version of Wigfrid) Or how in the old TMNT games on SNES using your “Special Moves” had to consume portions of your health bar. THATS a Glass Canon… Current Wanda, is Anything But. And sadly I fear Klei will once again cave towards the most popular forum vote and may even make her skill tree push her out of the glass canon role she’s SUPPOSED to be fulfilling. But this is all just my opinion and she surely doesn’t need a pouch to hold her watches. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/#findComment-1729484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demigardenerner Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 47 minutes ago, gaymime said: i dunno, she is already really powerful in the hands of an at least moderately capable player, having her have 0 downsides on top of being one of the four strongest characters in the game seems like it would just further mess up the meta and tighten the already restrictive power-pipeline that discourages people from playing the characters they like without being harangued for not picking the strong ones, you know? Zero downsides?? She’s literally a glass cannon that’s pretty weak with the planar mechanics yall want wanna Wanda op Wanda op but she’s not anymore she has 17.5 hp while old and planar damage goes through armor you have to stay middle aged/young and then she’s not doing any real damage the whole Wanda op thing died when they released the rifts Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/#findComment-1729485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxil20 Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 I’m on the fence of a pouch option being pre rift, but I think post rift it would be an alright upgrade. Even 4 slots would be pretty alright. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/#findComment-1729486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruvimaster Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 "Can we give Wanda a Watch Pouch?" If this happens, it will only be during Wanda's skill tree. This could happen in September or 18 months from now. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/#findComment-1729488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 13 minutes ago, Demigardenerner said: Zero downsides?? She’s literally a glass cannon that’s pretty weak with the planar mechanics yall want wanna Wanda op Wanda op but she’s not anymore she has 17.5 hp while old and planar damage goes through armor you have to stay middle aged/young and then she’s not doing any real damage the whole Wanda op thing died when they released the rifts why would you get hit using whip range? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/#findComment-1729491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshyds Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 39 minutes ago, Sesekriri said: actually hope they don't, and make her watches even more potent. I think the idea of a character with incredibly powerful abilities but half or 2/3rds inventory size if using those abilities is interesting. instead of making existing watches stronger, add a bunch of new ones to make her inventory even more clogged. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/#findComment-1729493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 19 minutes ago, Demigardenerner said: the whole Wanda op thing died when they released the rifts there're no hard planar enemies yet so that's irrelevant Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/#findComment-1729494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y0sH Posted June 26, 2024 Author Share Posted June 26, 2024 And exactly what i thought would happen every time Wanda's name gets brought up in discussions did happen. The conversation just immediately turns into a "She does x amount of damage, she's OP! She needs MORE downsides." etc... *sigh* Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/#findComment-1729495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demigardenerner Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 5 minutes ago, Well-met said: why would you get hit using whip range? If you want to use that as an excuse or an argument she’s overpowered while doing a lot less damage and be able to take practically then use a tail of 3 cats and then bam everyone is immortal yea fights may take longer but if that’s sooo overpowered then it’s worth it huh? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/#findComment-1729496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 22 minutes ago, Cruvimaster said: Wolfgang is laughing at the lies about who is the real cannon in the game with a simple shadow sword and dealing 176 damage and 200 health to be able to use any armor with 80% damage reduction. But if Wolfgang wants, he can also use one with 95% protection and no penalty (Marble Suit). Meanwhile Wanda deals 142 damage while having less than 27 health points. And this 142 is slow damage compared to melee weapons (dps) why do you still think that hp's relevant considering that healing's nearly instant and you don't get 1 shotted or killed through 1 combo Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/#findComment-1729497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 Just now, Y0sH said: And exactly what i thought would happen every time Wanda's name gets brought up in discussions did happen. The conversation just immediately turns into a "She does x amount of damage, she's OP! She needs MORE downsides." etc... *sigh* And what do you want? Carrying more than 1 healing watch, teleportion to a wished destination and 2 more clocks for just 1 inventory slot????*sigh* Wanda only ""needs"" 4 slots in her daily gameplay: 1 healing watch, alarming clock, a tp to base/the spot where you place all the tp clocks to other parts of the map and NF Other charactera needs more slots for lower perks. If you have problems with inventory management, do you need many healing watches even if you arent fighting or for some reason bring time pieces is your problem not wanda's design Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/#findComment-1729499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 6 minutes ago, Demigardenerner said: If you want to use that as an excuse or an argument she’s overpowered while doing a lot less damage and be able to take practically then use a tail of 3 cats and then bam everyone is immortal yea fights may take longer but if that’s sooo overpowered then it’s worth it huh? nice try limited 27 dmg whips is not the same as the alarming clock's infinite 300 dps Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/#findComment-1729500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxil20 Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 Just now, Y0sH said: And exactly what i thought would happen every time Wanda's name gets brought up in discussions did happen. The conversation just immediately turns into a "She does x amount of damage, she's OP! She needs MORE downsides." etc... *sigh* You kinda can’t escape it, sadly. I know in my discussions I get picked on for playing Wanda because I don’t play her the “””optimal””” way (In my endgame world, I use brightshade gear and stay as young age because that’s more enjoyable to me personally). It’s just something that unfortunately happens. People like taking the most optimal use case characters, but playing that optimally kinda kills the fun for me. I mainly play Wanda for her personality and some nice teleports, and she fits that role well from my experience. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/#findComment-1729501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y0sH Posted June 26, 2024 Author Share Posted June 26, 2024 9 minutes ago, arubaro said: And what do you want? Carrying more than 1 healing watch, teleportion to a wished destination and 2 more clocks for just 1 inventory slot????*sigh* Wanda only ""needs"" 4 slots in her daily gameplay: 1 healing watch, alarming clock, a tp to base/the spot where you place all the tp clocks to other parts of the map and NF Other charactera needs more slots for lower perks. If you have problems with inventory management, do you need many healing watches even if you arent fighting or for some reason bring time pieces is your problem not wanda's design I want you to read the post for comprehension and not to just be obtuse to the subject because you don't like it firstly. Secondly, if you did read the post you'd see it says "watches and the related items" meaning this pouch could just hold nightmare fuel/Pure horror or thul frags or the watchmaker's tools or watch pieces leaving the ageless watches out of it. Regardless if you play Endgame Wanda inventory is filled with watch stuff that can be downsized considerably with even a 2-3 slot pouch. Edit: Also if you aren't playing Wanda to not fight then there are way better options of characters to pick that do her non-fighting perks much better. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157559-can-we-give-wanda-a-watch-pouch/#findComment-1729503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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