nimzowitsch10 Posted June 9, 2024 Share Posted June 9, 2024 The concept of locking content behind certain days is so bad. Why should I wait to day 200 to get the best chance to spawn them in sunken chests? I thought klei was over with this concept with pearl. On top of that they grow so weirdly and slow. Not gonna lie they should just remove this along with the night vision trees. It is incredibly broken when you can have a couple of the gem trees and plant a lureplant near them and just spam silviculture and let the eye plant collect hundreds of gems with no penalties. It's almost as bad as the purple gem duping glitch people were doing not too long ago. Night vision trees are useless as well because ya know, moggles or nightvision mod if you guys are using that. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156783-gem-trees-and-why-theyre-bad/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenBowers Posted June 9, 2024 Share Posted June 9, 2024 They definitely should not remove interesting content, that is a very not good take. There is something a person can do called constructive feedback, instead of just campaigning for something to be cut out of the game that can be tweaked and fixed Its strange to say its broken while also complaining that its incredibly late game, but also, how incredibly rare they are anyways. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156783-gem-trees-and-why-theyre-bad/#findComment-1721983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimzowitsch10 Posted June 9, 2024 Author Share Posted June 9, 2024 would be cool if klei released a new boss that is challenging that can drop the seeds. Maybe as hard as beating cc or something. Perhaps an ocean boss with cc level difficulty Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156783-gem-trees-and-why-theyre-bad/#findComment-1721986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshyds Posted June 9, 2024 Share Posted June 9, 2024 1 minute ago, nimzowitsch10 said: would be cool if klei released a new boss that is challenging that can drop the seeds. Maybe as hard as beating cc or something crab king? he needs gems to be fueled, makes sense he could drop some seeds for it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156783-gem-trees-and-why-theyre-bad/#findComment-1721987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirsg Posted June 9, 2024 Share Posted June 9, 2024 I have 2 worlds. One with ruins that yields 5 green gems on a good regen and the other yields perhaps shy of 20. I'm not sure what the geode trees will do to the 20 gem world, but you best believe it will be a boon to the sub 10. I'd say there needs to be more interesting uses for thulecite. I can't believe that thulecite armor got soft powercrept. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156783-gem-trees-and-why-theyre-bad/#findComment-1722005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted June 9, 2024 Share Posted June 9, 2024 I feel like the purpose of the change was to add a new way to add gems late into your world without upsetting the early game too much yes as many people have pointed out a ruins clear gets you a ton of gems but that's hard for a lot of players and even then your actively working for those gems and need to reset the ruins for more so I can definitely see where klei is coming from. They wanted to make these trees a late game item but without locking it behind the rifts however I think 200 days might have been a bit too extreme and it would probably be better slashing it to 100 days. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156783-gem-trees-and-why-theyre-bad/#findComment-1722080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonz Posted June 9, 2024 Share Posted June 9, 2024 I have feeling klei is favouriting winona. Not saying I like the skilltree though. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156783-gem-trees-and-why-theyre-bad/#findComment-1722099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted June 9, 2024 Share Posted June 9, 2024 You keep bringing up night vision mod as if your willing to accept mods as being a core and intended part of the game, but since I’m sort of a jerk and don’t like mods to overshadow Klei’s hard work on adding official gameplay content- I think it would be hilarious if Klei “Unintentionally” added a bug into the game that crashed your game when you tried to use Nightvision Mod after they add the official Night Tree Fruits. With that out of the way… And since you seem to accept mods, just download a mod or go to world Gen settings and change the spawn/growth rate of the new trees (don’t tell me there aren’t any world Gen settings for the new content ) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156783-gem-trees-and-why-theyre-bad/#findComment-1722176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmonkey Posted June 9, 2024 Share Posted June 9, 2024 I'm like 99.9% sure that the Silviculture interaction is unintended. My money is on the next patch disabling magic growth of at least the gem tree, but possibly keeping it with the night vision tree if using horticulture. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156783-gem-trees-and-why-theyre-bad/#findComment-1722178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybers2001 Posted June 9, 2024 Share Posted June 9, 2024 7 hours ago, nimzowitsch10 said: The concept of locking content behind certain days is so bad. Why should I wait to day 200 to get the best chance to spawn them in sunken chests? I thought klei was over with this concept with pearl. On top of that they grow so weirdly and slow. Not sure where you got that idea. Do you mean the celestial orb? It made sense to buff RNG on tasks that directly affected boss progression, especially for the sake of speed runners who cared about it the most. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156783-gem-trees-and-why-theyre-bad/#findComment-1722185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted June 9, 2024 Share Posted June 9, 2024 11 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: go to world Gen settings and change the spawn/growth rate of the new trees (don’t tell me there aren’t any world Gen settings for the new content ) The trees are from a loot table and don't naturally occur Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156783-gem-trees-and-why-theyre-bad/#findComment-1722189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uedo Posted June 9, 2024 Share Posted June 9, 2024 48 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: You keep bringing up night vision mod as if your willing to accept mods as being a core and intended part of the game, but since I’m sort of a jerk and don’t like mods to overshadow Klei’s hard work on adding official gameplay content- I think it would be hilarious if Klei “Unintentionally” added a bug into the game that crashed your game when you tried to use Nightvision Mod after they add the official Night Tree Fruits. With that out of the way… And since you seem to accept mods, just download a mod or go to world Gen settings and change the spawn/growth rate of the new trees (don’t tell me there aren’t any world Gen settings for the new content ) What about moggles then Mike? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156783-gem-trees-and-why-theyre-bad/#findComment-1722208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykenception Posted June 9, 2024 Share Posted June 9, 2024 2 hours ago, Uedo said: What about moggles then Mike? clearly too op, Klei should also make a "bug" that crashes the game everytime you use that, as well as WX nightvision module Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/156783-gem-trees-and-why-theyre-bad/#findComment-1722302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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