Cockroach Lily Posted February 16, 2024 Share Posted February 16, 2024 We know that Maxwell's victims respawn, but why do Wurt and some others, too? Is every creature stuck in the constant the same way, or did Charlie/They just do a little trolling? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154338-what-makes-wurt-a-survivor/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Daemon Posted February 16, 2024 Share Posted February 16, 2024 I mean even normal pigs and merms respawn from their houses, so . . . Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154338-what-makes-wurt-a-survivor/#findComment-1699005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oog Posted February 16, 2024 Share Posted February 16, 2024 I think it’s up for speculation. Wurt’s introduction animation implies that the other survivors weren’t familiar with her prior to that event, so I assume that she was around in DST’s “canon” shard before everyone came together. Time passes strangely in the Constant, so who knows how long she was actually there before the events of DS? I assume whoever has control over the nightmare throne still has the bulk of the control over the Constant, so it’s most likely Charlie retroactively including survivors that weren’t pulled in from outside but are smart enough to thrive, like Wormwood and Wurt. Considering she took over the portal / Florid Postern, it doesn’t seem too farfetched that she’d be able to dictate whether someone can keep respawning through it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154338-what-makes-wurt-a-survivor/#findComment-1699007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masked Koopa Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 18 hours ago, oog said: Considering she took over the portal / Florid Postern, it doesn’t seem too farfetched that she’d be able to dictate whether someone can keep respawning through it. Does Alter have control over it when we upgrade it? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154338-what-makes-wurt-a-survivor/#findComment-1699143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALCRD Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 She's the survivor of Pig's Racism Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154338-what-makes-wurt-a-survivor/#findComment-1699199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshyds Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 I believe the fact that Wurt is sorta with the other survivors makes Charlie deem her worthy of extermination. It's a matter of association, rather than species. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154338-what-makes-wurt-a-survivor/#findComment-1699203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deemo_ Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 On 2/16/2024 at 8:26 AM, Golden Daemon said: I mean even normal pigs and merms respawn from their houses, so . . . Do pigs and merms retain their names when they respawn? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154338-what-makes-wurt-a-survivor/#findComment-1699213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Daemon Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 On 2/17/2024 at 9:35 PM, deemo_ said: Do pigs and merms retain their names when they respawn? I mean if we consider ingame pig names as canon then having multiple willows or wilsons (or any other) in the same world with different names surviving together should match well with what we are seeing from pigs and merms! Also the pig with the same name will eventually respawn at some point in your playthrough. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154338-what-makes-wurt-a-survivor/#findComment-1699226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 We can assume every creature has a revival ritual somewhere in the constant like amulets and touchstones, so immortality in the Constant is real. We are never sure if souls of creatures there find a way to revive or get rebirthed, but there's some sort of sorcery involved to also keep even sentient creatures to find ways to come back from being ghosts, in a slower way. Animal names could be a joke or creatures renaming themselves as to conceal their identities, but I might be wrong and every time we see a new house's creature respawn it's just a new resident that found home there?... I think it's safe to make up the canon why that happens, it's just one of things that Klei might not explain and let us interpret it in whatever way we want. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154338-what-makes-wurt-a-survivor/#findComment-1699235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshyds Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 1 hour ago, Frosty_Mentos said: We can assume every creature has a revival ritual somewhere in the constant like amulets and pigmen reviving themselves only to continue endlessly walking toward a walled off food source Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154338-what-makes-wurt-a-survivor/#findComment-1699248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted February 18, 2024 Share Posted February 18, 2024 9 hours ago, marshyds said: pigmen reviving themselves only to continue endlessly walking toward a walled off food source It's canon now. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154338-what-makes-wurt-a-survivor/#findComment-1699282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted February 18, 2024 Share Posted February 18, 2024 13 hours ago, deemo_ said: Do pigs and merms retain their names when they respawn? No. You guys are also taking game mechanics far too literally. 11 hours ago, Frosty_Mentos said: We can assume every creature has a revival ritual somewhere in the constant like amulets and touchstones, so immortality in the Constant is real. We are never sure if souls of creatures there find a way to revive or get rebirthed, but there's some sort of sorcery involved to also keep even sentient creatures to find ways to come back from being ghosts, in a slower way. Why can we assume that? I'm not aware of anything that would support that theory, but the fallen survivors seem to go against it as they're not here any more. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154338-what-makes-wurt-a-survivor/#findComment-1699284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted February 18, 2024 Share Posted February 18, 2024 5 hours ago, Cheggf said: Why can we assume that? I'm not aware of anything that would support that theory, but the fallen survivors seem to go against it as they're not here any more. Game logic or smth. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/154338-what-makes-wurt-a-survivor/#findComment-1699320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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