Jakepeng99 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 I know they are not lunar aligned (they could add that though) and the drops are boots, but do you think he is? (We need more lunar aligned mobs pre riff) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153062-is-sharkboi-the-lunar-version-of-nightmare-were-pig/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabin Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 i think so, yeah, since he looks to be an ultra moontated rockjaw (hence the name frostjaw), but the alignment wasn't able to make it in the beta, i guess i hope he'll be a sea trader of sorts, since he's supposed to have dialogue 'n stuff. that'd be cool Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153062-is-sharkboi-the-lunar-version-of-nightmare-were-pig/#findComment-1686395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Klei said he was pre-rift contents, so no? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153062-is-sharkboi-the-lunar-version-of-nightmare-were-pig/#findComment-1686398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Mike23Ua said: Klei said he was pre-rift contents, so no? nightmare werepig also is Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153062-is-sharkboi-the-lunar-version-of-nightmare-were-pig/#findComment-1686400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted December 7, 2023 Author Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Mike23Ua said: Klei said he was pre-rift contents, so no? Nightmare were pig is pre riff aswell so i dont get what you mean. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153062-is-sharkboi-the-lunar-version-of-nightmare-were-pig/#findComment-1686401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cropo Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: Nightmare were pig is pre riff aswell so i dont get what you mean. I think nightmare pig is the exception and not the rule. It would be unfair to foist the player naked against their first planar fight. I also think it wasn't given an alignment because that would bring an expectation of planar damage coming to pre-rift and scare people. Before you say Wigfrids beefalo having planar damage, i'd also say that's a bit different. It's just a damage increase that can conveniently have presence in late game, not to encourage adding more sources of it in the future. I suspect Willows alignment spells to require post-rift content, but you also had to have already beaten CC or FW to access them so I think they expect you to be post-rift capable at that point. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153062-is-sharkboi-the-lunar-version-of-nightmare-were-pig/#findComment-1686409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiyss Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Maybe sharkboi will have something to do with wagstaff. Daywalker was locked by marble pillars with roses, so itll probably have something with charlie Maybe we can get some clues in the stage animations and quotes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153062-is-sharkboi-the-lunar-version-of-nightmare-were-pig/#findComment-1686410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabin Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, cropo said: I also think it wasn't given an alignment because that would bring an expectation of planar damage coming to pre-rift and scare people. what? what do you mean? alignment has nothing to do with planar, a buncha mobs which are pre-rift are aligned. i don't get why funny sharkman shouldn't be Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153062-is-sharkboi-the-lunar-version-of-nightmare-were-pig/#findComment-1686413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cropo Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Just now, fabin said: what? what do you mean? alignment has nothing to do with planar, a buncha mobs which are pre-rift are aligned. i don't get why funny sharkman shouldn't be idk I'm just guessing, maybe they feared that such a lunar-looking mob and alignment would come with planar damage and would scare people into thinking there are plans to introduce planar damage into pre-rift content so they left it unaligned. Not saying it's true, but a possibility. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153062-is-sharkboi-the-lunar-version-of-nightmare-were-pig/#findComment-1686414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fufuji Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Very important Boss. I can see future Rare Blueprints unrelated to bosses going into his loot (like NW&AG dropping pillars') without having to hide deep in the oasis or Antlion. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153062-is-sharkboi-the-lunar-version-of-nightmare-were-pig/#findComment-1686417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szczuku Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 It doesn't really scream 'Lunar Aligned' if you ask me. Sure, it looks like its related to rockjaws, but there is not a single bit that suggests its mutated by the moon Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153062-is-sharkboi-the-lunar-version-of-nightmare-were-pig/#findComment-1686459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubicska Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 4 hours ago, cropo said: idk I'm just guessing, maybe they feared that such a lunar-looking mob and alignment would come with planar damage and would scare people into thinking there are plans to introduce planar damage into pre-rift content so they left it unaligned. Not saying it's true, but a possibility. I mean fair… I also thought that he’s planar or something the first time I saw him, but people wouldn’t be scared to fight him because they think he’s planar since they probably don’t know what planar damage is in the first place if they are unfamiliar with the boss + making him lunar aligned (I’m not saying they have to/should) wouldn’t change anything about him looking like a planar boss to some people because they wouldn’t even know that alignments exist unless they check the scrap book or something and magically have knowledge of planar mechanics but not the boss itself Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153062-is-sharkboi-the-lunar-version-of-nightmare-were-pig/#findComment-1686487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dextops Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 I think it’s just a cold shark Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153062-is-sharkboi-the-lunar-version-of-nightmare-were-pig/#findComment-1686488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 I don't exactly understand the comparison to Lunar themes yet. Maybe they'll expand on it, but the only connection I'm currently seeing is uh... ice I guess? He just looks like an anthro buff shark man right now to me! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153062-is-sharkboi-the-lunar-version-of-nightmare-were-pig/#findComment-1686492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted December 8, 2023 Author Share Posted December 8, 2023 21 hours ago, cropo said: I think nightmare pig is the exception and not the rule. It would be unfair to foist the player naked against their first planar fight Nightmare were pig is not planar, and neither is the shark. Planar was not apart of this. 18 hours ago, Szczuku said: It doesn't really scream 'Lunar Aligned' if you ask me. Sure, it looks like its related to rockjaws, but there is not a single bit that suggests its mutated by the moon Ice and crystals. Things like pengulls. (Crab king is lunar aligned) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153062-is-sharkboi-the-lunar-version-of-nightmare-were-pig/#findComment-1686646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCockroach Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 19 hours ago, Szczuku said: It doesn't really scream 'Lunar Aligned' if you ask me. Sure, it looks like its related to rockjaws, but there is not a single bit that suggests its mutated by the moon Also moon only mutates it's vicinity, on full moons or via gestalts. This shark doesn't have any of that maybe got mutated near the water of the lunar island then escaped? no evidence but it's a fun theory. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153062-is-sharkboi-the-lunar-version-of-nightmare-were-pig/#findComment-1686650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted December 8, 2023 Author Share Posted December 8, 2023 1 hour ago, BalkanCockroach said: Also moon only mutates it's vicinity, on full moons or via gestalts. This shark does have any of that maybe got mutated near the water of the lunar island then escaped? no evidence but it's a fun theory. Crab king is lunar aligned so that backs up the jaw guy being lunar aligned. They dont need to be mutated with this rule, just on the moon's side (which is why powder monkeys should be lunar aligned too) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153062-is-sharkboi-the-lunar-version-of-nightmare-were-pig/#findComment-1686668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCockroach Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 17 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: Crab king is lunar aligned so that backs up the jaw guy being lunar aligned No, nothing backs up anything until this beta comes out and Frostjaw is lunar aligned. For the monkeys my theory is that Wagstaff did lunar experiments on them before dumping them into the constant. I came to this conclusion cause Wagstaff had a monkey in his lab and he is actively experimenting on lunar energy, he also made the unnatural portal. So i agree they should be lunar aligned. But i don't think they make everything that correlates with lunar stuff aligned cause sentrypedes are still not aligned even tho they work with lunar energy and are the archives counterparts to damaged Clockworks. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153062-is-sharkboi-the-lunar-version-of-nightmare-were-pig/#findComment-1686674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkemal23 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 58 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: Crab king is lunar aligned so that backs up the jaw guy being lunar aligned. Crab king has actuall lore behind him, Sharkboi currently doesn't. 58 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: They dont need to be mutated with this rule, just on the moon's side (which is why powder monkeys should be lunar aligned too) Powder monkeys (And the Queen) has nothing to do with Alter. It's not even known if they came from the constant. They "worship" the "Moon" because it looks like a banana. 35 minutes ago, BalkanCockroach said: For the monkeys my theory is that Wagstaff did lunar experiments on them before dumping them into the constant. I came to this conclusion cause Wagstaff had a monkey in his lab and he is actively experimenting on lunar energy, he also made the unnatural portal. (From what I understood) Wagstaff Baited Alter and captured CC and used it to overload a portal to create Unnatural portal. Which resulted the creation of Moonkey island Powder monkeys, or any other stuff in the Moonkey island were never a thing from Constant. (or they are from an unknown place in the constant). Thats why Powder monkeys don't look like Splumonkeys or Shipwrecked monkeys. Thats also why our characters seems so suprised about banana bush. Spoiler Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153062-is-sharkboi-the-lunar-version-of-nightmare-were-pig/#findComment-1686679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCockroach Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, mkemal23 said: Powder monkeys, or any other stuff in the Moonkey island were never a thing from Constant. (or they are from an unknown place in the constant). Thats why Powder monkeys don't look like Splumonkeys or Shipwrecked monkeys. That's what i said, Wagsuss made them in earth then sent them into constant after making them smurf colored. if Wagstaff made them with Moon energy that would explain their smurfyness. And the worshipping part is probably cause of banan like you said. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153062-is-sharkboi-the-lunar-version-of-nightmare-were-pig/#findComment-1686686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted December 8, 2023 Author Share Posted December 8, 2023 3 hours ago, mkemal23 said: Powder monkeys (And the Queen) has nothing to do with Alter. It's not even known if they came from the constant. They "worship" the "Moon" because it looks like a banana. Alter is the moon. They worship alter. 3 hours ago, mkemal23 said: Crab king has actuall lore behind him, Sharkboi currently doesn't. I always though crab king just happened to be sitting on the lunar altar. Sharkboi would fit. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153062-is-sharkboi-the-lunar-version-of-nightmare-were-pig/#findComment-1686719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubicska Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 For me probably the reason why I thought that the Frost Jaw is lunar aligned was because he is associated with cold and ice like some lunar aligned creatures are such as Moonrock Pengulls and the Possessed Varg (and Crystal Deerclops although he already has ice powers) Also Moonrock Pengulls have absolutely nothing to to with moonrocks but I suppose they couldn’t just name them “corrupted pengulls” or something ice themed because it probably wouldn’t sound that good Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153062-is-sharkboi-the-lunar-version-of-nightmare-were-pig/#findComment-1686820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybers2001 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 12/7/2023 at 9:50 AM, cropo said: I think nightmare pig is the exception and not the rule. It would be unfair to foist the player naked against their first planar fight. I also think it wasn't given an alignment because that would bring an expectation of planar damage coming to pre-rift and scare people. Is it not a completely optional boss fight? Having to wait until CC or FW to encounter any planar enemies at all, frankly, defeats the purpose of the whole planar system. The whole point of the planar system was to introduce new mobs that were resistant to your weapons, and allowed the bright/void stuff to give you that next power spike. Why do we get the power spike before we even encounter planar enemies? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153062-is-sharkboi-the-lunar-version-of-nightmare-were-pig/#findComment-1687254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted December 10, 2023 Author Share Posted December 10, 2023 45 minutes ago, cybers2001 said: Is it not a completely optional boss fight? Having to wait until CC or FW to encounter any planar enemies at all, frankly, defeats the purpose of the whole planar system. The whole point of the planar system was to introduce new mobs that were resistant to your weapons, and allowed the bright/void stuff to give you that next power spike. Why do we get the power spike before we even encounter planar enemies? Nightmare were pig is not a planar boss. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/153062-is-sharkboi-the-lunar-version-of-nightmare-were-pig/#findComment-1687261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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