Retepeter Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Hey guys I think walking is very overpowered and it needs to be removed and here's why: Walking can solve every problem in the game such as: It lets you avoid things like bosses and enemies If you're out of food you can just walk and find some more I'm currently playing a game called "Chess" and in this game walking is perfectly balanced since you can only move when your enemy moves therefor you cant just get insanely stacked and make the game easy I think a good solution would be to remove walking from the game and make it a lategame luxury with craftable legs from misery toadstool I think its very important to mention that Wendy needs an early game solution so she starts out with a rocket powered wheelchair this fits wendy becouse i dont know but wendy needs to be buffed some more because wendy wendy wendy and make sure to buff wendy Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1663977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrimbles Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 On 9/4/2023 at 5:11 PM, MostMerryTomcat said: Oh, look: yet another "nerf this thing, nerf that thing, DST ez pz game, hyuhyu!" topic. Who would've guessed. ...You know you can just, not click on the thread, right? You aren't forced into reading it if it doesn't interest you. Like yeah, we get it, you don't share the same opinion as someone else, or you don't find their sense of humor funny, but why does that give you the right to go "nerf this thing, nerf that thing, DST ez pz game, hyuhyu!"? Like JoeW says, please avoid personal attacks. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1664010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxst Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 I think uncompromising mode does it pretty well, food doesn't heal you instantly and it's not that useful to bring 100 plates into a fight if you're likely to kill the boss or die before using 1/4 of those. Although well, uncompromising mode already exists Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1664019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MondayNight Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 On 9/5/2023 at 6:42 PM, Jakepeng99 said: I get that i should make less random threads like this and i understand you for that- for mainly my sake- but i dislike that you conjured a flase statement that painted me as some nomad bad-intent spammer who formely roamed discord, and have you portray it as something i was know for. Getting accused for something you didn't do and everyone believing it is frustrating. I don't want any harm to anything, and that is not my viewpoint. For example, on (DST) Don't Fight Discord you were pretty active in past. Then, seemingly out of the blue, you stopped and I believe that coincided with your activity spiking on these forums, continuing with you posting here every day, multiple times (I believe now you're most active recurrent poster here, on KLei forums; that honor belonged in past to Mike) - or that's my impression based on certain instances. I don't know if you stopped completely or just diminished your input there, or some other event occurred to stop you posting en-mass, I sparely go nowadays into (DST)DF discord; yet, when I did, you were pretty much always present in multiple channels - like now here. I concluded something, may be wrong, or partially wrong. Also it was a "perhaps" in my initial assessment - as opposed to definitive statements. On 9/5/2023 at 7:08 PM, Mysterious box said: They seem to keep doing this. Yes, I quoted and pointed at you in past for some pro-nerf posts (personal assessment), or more accurately for your general view of characters' re-balances - namely that they "would've been more interesting over-all if front-center was a truly punishing version of their cons"; or the repeatedly-expressed discontent towards KLei's DST current direction, like "don't starve together is taking huge leaps toward being completely unbalanced it's not even about uncompromising vs casual anymore" or "Don't starve together is kinda on it's way to genre shift from survival game to power fantasy with superficial threats". Why? Because such statements, even as personal opinions, are exaggerations. Fact of matter is, for vast player-base majority, game is indeed hard even after learning its mechanics. Since it's all about cumulative dangers/threats. Also you still continue to botch KLei's name as "Kiel" even after you, seemingly, admitted to think that was their de facto company name and not you... "softcore" mocking them for whatever reason, most likely because of their game balance and whatnot. Ironies and passive-aggressiveness such as these could be why KLei disregards or not even reads anymore topics criticizing their game development. Sure, may be "Haha, man, am joking, ha!" or "Oy, my bad, I thought it was something else, honest mistake really! *wink-wink*". And I "a bad person" for "picking on you" with the above. You can certainly go that route, no biggie - & "no added sugar". 2 hours ago, Scrimbles said: ...You know you can just, not click on the thread, right? You aren't forced into reading it if it doesn't interest you. Like yeah, we get it, you don't share the same opinion as someone else, or you don't find their sense of humor funny, but why does that give you the right to go "nerf this thing, nerf that thing, DST ez pz game, hyuhyu!"? Like JoeW says, please avoid personal attacks. Well, you kinda need to click topics since often their titles reflect nothing, are click-baits or can be interpreted in a myriad of ways. You know, "the curiosity that killed the cat". An opinion is expressed, attracting counter-opinions. And bombastic, exaggerated, meme joke "opinion"-threads on proverbial conveyor belt, on-and-on... well, you get the picture. I understand people get bored in between updates, yet silliness has its limits. Beyond them is pure trolling/"$hitposting". Regarding topic, in serious manner *sic*: general food is ok, accounting all players' actions and not solely advanced experienced ones. If anything, Banana Bushes could have same Berry Bush mechanic, of being inactive in Winter - or even yield crop solely during Summer (being a Tropical crop vs Constant's apparent temperate climate). Perhaps Stone Fruit Bushes too, a bit nerfed on the production timer, adding 1-3 days till crop is ready for picking; possibly also implementing same mentioned Berry Bush mechanic for consistency: during Winter yields no crops. I don't believe it will happen, but as a mental exercise, sure. Game difficulty, even with punctual character buffs, remains high for vast majority of people, especially because of the cumulative nature of DST threats. Good planning & cautiousness don't come in bundle with raw information about game's various mechanics - is something each player learns with practice. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1664033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nnumber3 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 On 9/5/2023 at 12:40 PM, Mike23Ua said: This threads gotten way off topic, so I’m now going to quote you in an attempt to put it back on track. Food solves almost every problem you can have within the game, including Hunger, Health, Sanity, & Temperature. It is therefore reasonable to assume that Food is indeed OP and could reasonably use some form of Nerf, because what kind of game would DST be if managing all your status bars was do-able with one little Super Pill? AND Since Klei helped to fund Darkest Dungeons- I think a reasonable “Nerf” would be to just like with that game- not allow them to eat when full. I’d even go so far as to give them all unique quotes (or in Wes’s case a unique animation..) to express that they are full.. Wendy- “food goes right through Abigail but my little belly can only hold so much..” Wilson- “It seems my eyes were bigger than my appetite” Wortox- “Tweedle De, Twiddle Do, It seems I have bitten off far more than I can Chew.” Wes- (belly rub and pat animation) Wickerbottom- “Oh dear me, I couldn’t eat another bite..” Wolfgang- “Mighty Muscles bigger than puny stomach, heh..” I shouldn’t have to be limited to choosing Wormwood to be challenged by rather or not stuffing my face with food will heal me or not.. *gasp, A game called don't STARVE solution to all your problems is food? oh my goodness I thought you lived lifting dumbbells! jokes aside, that mechanic sound really annoying for a GAME ABOUT FOOD. And DD is a Whole different genre then dst you can't compare them, Kei only funded it, not made it. also, with your logic about the whole "because Kei made it thing makes no sense as kei has no DD in DST soooooo... wait this is a non-serious thread uhsuhswuopirgeguiowg Spoiler Cool quotes, you should make your own character, seem you would be good at it with these quotes Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1664034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Nnumber3 said: *gasp, A game called don't STARVE solution to all your problems is food? oh my goodness I thought you lived lifting dumbbells! jokes aside, that mechanic sound really annoying for a GAME ABOUT FOOD. And DD is a Whole different genre then dst you can't compare them, Kei only funded it, not made it. also, with your logic about the whole "because Kei made it thing makes no sense as kei has no DD in DST soooooo... wait this is a non-serious thread uhsuhswuopirgeguiowg Reveal hidden contents Cool quotes, you should make your own character, seem you would be good at it with these quotes I mean, I don’t understand why it sounds impossible to make food not heal you or provide sanity/etc effects in DST, yes I get that that’s how the game is designed… HOWEVER certain playable characters, such as Wormwood ignore these effects, Wormwood can not heal from eating food stuffs. And such a feature could work in DST (& in multiplayer) by making it a Server Setting Option. I can toggle in server settings- For players to take 40% less damage, normal or 40% more damage from enemy mobs. I can toggle so that Hunger, Temperature & Darkness can’t kill the player. I can also toggle Day lengths or other various game factors. So then- Logic would imply that if a tab was to be added to these settings: Food Healing Values: Normal/Less/None. Or Health Tab Item Effectiveness: 20% less effective, Normal, 20% more effective. Etc that these settings would apply to every on the entire server- AND I can play the game as Wendy, but enjoy Wormwoods challenge of food not healing me when injured. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1664043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valase Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 On 9/4/2023 at 3:25 PM, Jakepeng99 said: Alot of players claim there is wayyy too easy to get food in dst. It would be funny to fufill the demands of those who think there is by adding downsides to eating too much. Those who starve all the time wont need to worry. The only way to fix DST food Issue is by adding feijoada to the game. Only this way we can be saved! preach for our lord and savior! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1664047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuardDuty Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Scrimbles said: ...You know you can just, not click on the thread, right? You aren't forced into reading it if it doesn't interest you. Like yeah, we get it, you don't share the same opinion as someone else, or you don't find their sense of humor funny, but why does that give you the right to go "nerf this thing, nerf that thing, DST ez pz game, hyuhyu!"? Like JoeW says, please avoid personal attacks. I typically don't engage or commenting on threads of this nature as they tend to be unproductive. I've come to realize that such threads primarily serve as a means to initiate conversation for the sake of it. Nonetheless, I find myself irked by this kind of threads. As a non-native English speaker, I can empathize with others who might be similarly confused by the thread titles and take them seriously. This has occurred far too often, exampled by the numerous "bundle wrap nerf" threads. People eventually realize the absurdity, as the point has already been made, the devs will never change to such blatantly bothersome mechanic and the majority of base players all have common sense. These threads seem designed solely to bait individuals with such terrible takes into repeating arguments endlessly. So here is my two cents for OP and those who tend to write in an obscure style, I understand the value of humor and bonding on the forum. However, for the sake of clarity and consideration towards non-native speakers and those with limited time to be constantly active on the forum, could you kindly confine such discussions to existing threads like "Maxwell meme" or "Questions that don't deserve their own thread"? This would be greatly appreciated and would save time for many others. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1664049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 2 hours ago, MostMerryTomcat said: Yes, I quoted and pointed at you in past for some pro-nerf posts (personal assessment) I was more so talking about you popping up at any post that more or less seems to share a view you don't agree with to mock them not just my own just something I've noticed. 2 hours ago, MostMerryTomcat said: or more accurately for your general view of characters' re-balances - namely that they "would've been more interesting over-all if front-center was a truly punishing version of their cons"; or the repeatedly-expressed discontent towards KLei's DST current direction, like "don't starve together is taking huge leaps toward being completely unbalanced it's not even about uncompromising vs casual anymore" or "Don't starve together is kinda on it's way to genre shift from survival game to power fantasy with superficial threats". Why? Because such statements, even as personal opinions, are exaggerations. Fact of matter is, for vast player-base majority, game is indeed hard even after learning its mechanics. Since it's all about cumulative dangers/threats. Also you still continue to botch KLei's name as "Kiel" even after you, seemingly, admitted to think that was their de facto company name and not you... "softcore" mocking them for whatever reason, most likely because of their game balance and whatnot. Ironies and passive-aggressiveness such as these could be why KLei disregards or not even reads anymore topics criticizing their game development. Sure, may be "Haha, man, am joking, ha!" or "Oy, my bad, I thought it was something else, honest mistake really! *wink-wink*". And I "a bad person" for "picking on you" with the above. You can certainly go that route, no biggie - & "no added sugar". You know I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt here but it's clear you don't deserve it you twist and cherry pick what people say sometimes even pretty much confirming you did so out of what I can clearly assume is spite based on whatever misguided sense of morals you seem to possess. Regardless take that attitude elsewhere because I'm sick of seeing you making up crap about people purely because you don't like their views on specific topics. Add something to the conversation instead of just taking jabs at anyone who doesn't support you. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1664054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MondayNight Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Mysterious box said: I was more so talking about you popping up at any post that more or less seems to share a view you don't agree with to mock them not just my own just something I've noticed. The "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" effect. Maybe OP (and others of a similar propensity - yes, that includes the *let's lobby KLei to implement "Uncompromising Mode" aspects into DST base-game via basically same topics repeated ad nausea in various wordings* people akin OP... and yourself) shouldn't recurrently make meme/"$hitposting"/trolling/exaggerating threads, at an increasing rate?! Accent on exaggerations - contrary to what OP and you may seem to imply, DST is a hard game and its Survival facet still relevant - once more: because multiple cumulative threats (ex.: Frog Rain + early Spring night freezing + Hounds Attack). *Nerfing Topic/Posting Of The Day, Each Day*, as OP is doing for some time now (check his Topics history, is public), isn't getting the point across. Is just annoying. I get you, OP, others are increasingly frustrated about DST's mid&late-game Survival side, and want to send the message to KLei. But after years of doing so I believe KLei got it - same handful of people on these forums repeating an almost identical thing in various formats like a broken record each week now won't magically make devs change how they go about their game. As for the rest of your post, sure, make whatever you want as a conclusion regarding myself, as I did in regards to you plus OP, no problem. And you can at any time mouse-over my avatar -> Ignore user. Out of sight, out of mind. Have a fun, clean and stress-free browsing! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1664065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, MostMerryTomcat said: The "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" effect. Cool then you know why I'm not giving you the benefit of the doubt because you've proven yourself untrustworthy by the sheer amount of times you intentionally try to misrepresent people. 11 minutes ago, MostMerryTomcat said: *let's lobby KLei to implement "Uncompromising Mode" aspects into DST base-game via basically same topic repeated ad nausea in various wordings* people akin OP... and yourself) Got it so what your saying is if someone likes aspects of a mod you dislike and says it would be cool if some of those aspects were implemented in the base game you have the right to mock them and/or derail their thread? Where were you when people were asking for extra equip slots to be added to the base game? Oh right you didn't have the grudge with the creators of that mod sorry. 13 minutes ago, MostMerryTomcat said: shouldn't recurrently make meme/"$hitposting"/trolling/exaggerating threads, at an increasing rate?! Accent on exaggerations Except I don't make a bunch of these threads but I get it bringing up suggestions you don't like is the equivalent of $hitposting to you because your world view would be destroyed if people were actually passionate about the game in a direction you didn't like am I right? 16 minutes ago, MostMerryTomcat said: DST is a hard game and its Survival facet still relevant - once more: because multiple cumulative threats (ex.: Frog Rain + early Spring night freezing + Hounds Attack). "Nerfing Topic Of The Day" each day, as OP is doing for some time now (check his Topics history, is public), "isn't getting the point across". Is just annoying. I get you, OP, others are increasingly frustrated about DST's mid&late-game Survival side, and want to send the message to KLei. But after years of doing so I believe KLei got it - same handful of people on these forums repeating an almost identical thing in various formats like a broken record each week now won't magically make devs change how they go about their game. As for the rest of your post, sure, make whatever you want as a conclusion regarding myself, as I did in regards to you plus OP, no problem. And you can at any time mouse-over my avatar -> Ignore user. Out of sight, out of mind. Have a fun, clean and stress-free browsing! If you have a issue with topics raised by users about specific parts of the game either participate in the conversations without resorting to slandering people or just see yourself out of them. Be more mature about it rather than mocking everyone you don't like I don't normally take crap like this personally but believe it or not I'm not a fan of someone making false assumptions about me and spreading it as fact. Also last I checked you weren't the devs so I don't believe it's up to you to moderate what topics are allowed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1664069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MondayNight Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 21 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: ... You're funny. More exaggerations.. and you question why such stretches bother me to the point of addressing them in equally joke-manner. As stated, believe what you will, I've wrote what I wanted in relation to present topic and why is more-or-less "$hitposting" - like other "gems" from the same author: Why i don't think Meatballs taste that good, The Cotl crossover will let us use manure as filler, To ALL The Poop Haters and Lovers!, Make delicious Wobster actually delicious, Harpsichord and more - "topics" that could've been 1-liners in Maxwell Memes if forumer had common sense to post obvious gags in their appropriate section. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1664070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, MostMerryTomcat said: You're funny. More exaggerations.. and you question why such stretches bother me to the point of addressing them in equally joke-manner. As stated, believe what you will, I've wrote what I wanted in relation to present topic and why is more-or-less "$hitposting" - like other "gems" from the same author: Why i don't think Meatballs taste that good, The Cotl crossover will let us use manure as filler, To ALL The Poop Haters and Lovers!, Make delicious Wobster actually delicious, Harpsichord and more - "topics" that could've been 1-liners in Maxwell Memes if forumer had common sense to post obvious gags in their appropriate section. Wait these are examples of posts that bother you...? Why? I'm legitimately confused why these topics would bother you if anything they're a nice break from the debate heavy threads in between but to each their own I guess. If you feel like it's going too far consider reporting it or contacting the forum moderators don't take it into your own hands it does more harm than good. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1664072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted September 8, 2023 Author Share Posted September 8, 2023 6 hours ago, MostMerryTomcat said: For example, on (DST) Don't Fight Discord you were pretty active in past. You don't know much about me since i am still somewhat active there to this day. I wasn't a greifer even though 3 years ago in that server i was a trouble maker back when i was 13/14, that is in the far past and i am now 16 and doesn't apply to anything today. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1664075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MondayNight Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Jakepeng99 said: You don't know much about me since i am still somewhat active there to this day. I wasn't a greifer even though 3 years ago in that server i was a trouble maker back when i was 13/14, that is in the far past and i am now 16 and doesn't apply to anything today. It's ok. I've been too harsh on you. Sorry. In future, though, pls do try to post funny "just for laughs" stuff in Maxwell's memes. General section gets cluttered quickly and is hard to follow news and such - this also to address Mysterious' post of why I got bothered. And don't take to heart that much my remarks, Mysterious, in fact I as well desire more late-game Survival oriented content like progression (new seasonal weather patterns, meteorological phenomenons, evolved mobs etc), only that am not an adept of "the stick" approach in balance (aka what was "Uncompromising Mode"s base philosophy), but of "the carrot": minute bons for using a strat or another. Aka non-hard nerfs. Same for foods: have weak foods brought to meta foods standards and morph environment into "the aggressor" (said progression). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1664086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 I found that the game's food mechanics are as fine as they are. Due to the fact that you need to spend plenty of time to produce the food or craft the healing necessary (unless you're a dirty bluecap eater like me sometimes) there's the whole mechanic to spoilage and the amount of food you can carry at the time. As the longer you spend time the less healing options you'll have till you beat Bee Queen or have salves for days. Other spending more time backtracking to dig up shrooms for recovering and getting back to action, costing more time to travel and overall costing time to do and costing much of the season if there's other things you could or want to be doing. As seasons change and new challenges are brought in or the more conflict you get into - the more or better sources to healing and sanity will be needed to keep you in range of comfort level for you to feel safe and sound. Despite what people say, healing food is needed enough to be common due to all the massive giants around the world or ruins to be the trade off for that effort and healing you have to use to keep going. Blue caps are the main healing of the game with posing the threat of risk of being overwhelmed by shadow creatures and be annoyed in middle of some fights. While you can indeed mitigate it with cooked blue or green caps, it just costs even more time and effort but additionally costing some health as a trade off. Crockpot foods will need you effort and extra resources to cook and prepare, costing more time and still keeping the spoilage as a risk to your source of health. Even with healing foods nerfed, tents would be secondary option to be set up in cost of any food. Exceptionally efficient recovery method in relatively little time. If that's not an option for you, there's healing salves. Costing practically same or similar effort to getting healing but in a more preserved form with moderate amount of healing. Though if really, in the end - it will depend on how much or what quality of armor you'll have. No matter the change, healing won't need any nerf just cause of how much damage you can mitigate via protection you wear and the weapon you'll use to cut the cost of time to battling your target. People often don't even need to use healing unless rare few instances where you kinda have to just take a lot of damage against some boss like Bee Queen who literally is a tank shredder of a boss, but her fight is a weird example for itself considering how very different her combat is of using defense as her actual offence mechanic. Other than that... Why bother nerfing healing if we got other creatures that can also do the fighting for us? We got bunnymen, lobsters, pigs... It's supplementary if not main source of damage you can get and they are fairly healthy themselves without much cost but upkeep. Healing is only applied if you wanna deal with threats directly alone. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1664092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, Frosty_Mentos said: Crockpot foods will need you effort and extra resources to cook and prepare, costing more time and still keeping the spoilage as a risk to your source of health. Mean while cooked potato Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1664096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Some people just enjoy a change of pace in a game, some people enjoy having new ways to play a game they’ve grown far too familiar with that’s all.. If any of you have EVER played any arcade game well uhm Ever, you would be Familiar with what a “Dip Switch” is, and for those of you who ARENT familiar with it- it allows you to change various factors about gameplay, such as how many lives you have, or how fast the games enemies can run, etc.. In arcades (the ones you put quarters into to play) the dip switches are usually flipped so the odds are intentionally against you & you invest more quarters into the Machine. This thread isn’t a joke (or at least I did not see it as a joke..) & it discusses a relevant topic. Klei has world Gen settings and world customization options that act as DSTs “DipSwitch” I’ll be the first to admit I HATE SEA STACKS and I toggle them to significantly less.. I believe that food & healing values could be given dipswitches so we can make the game as easy or as hard as we feel like playing at the time. I know that during limited time events like Midsummers Cawnival I will intentionally toggle off hound waves, Deerclops or every other season but autumn.. Why do I do this you ask? Maybe I do t want to be bothered by the core survival aspects of the game and just want to spend a few hours building enourmous Carrat race tracks or playing Cawnival games. Don’t be fooled though- I also like to toggle 24/7 Summer, longer day lengths, wildfires to happen MORE Often, and to make diving into caves as undesirable as possible- I’ll crank up depth worms, spider spawns, lower lightbulb spawn rates, enable Shadow Rifts from Day 1 so I’m also dealing with Inkblights and Acid Rain. My point is that DST is filled with these Dipswitches… that let you custom tailor the gameplay to your liking, or current mood. And if I want food to not provide any healing to my characters, currently the only way to do that is by playing as Wormwood… But that’s only because Klei hasn’t really added any other ways I can flip that particular dipswitch. And I don’t know about y’all but I don’t think “play as X character” is a good solution. DST needs more world Gen settings and gameplay toggle preferences.. & this is just another example of where it could be put to good use. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1664098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 19 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: DST needs more world Gen settings and gameplay toggle preferences.. & this is just another example of where it could be put to good use. Who would want to use this setting other than you? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1664102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spino43 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Just now, gamehun20 said: Who would want to use this setting other than you? It's mike. He expects you, me, klei, and everyone else to play the same way he does. Don't question it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1664103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDos Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Hello everyone I will try not to pay attention to incompetent discussions and reveal the main topic. At this stage, the food will be quite difficult to fix or nerf. and considering how players relate to global changes (for example, as a skill tree), changing the mechanics of eating food can create a lot of negativity on the part of players. It seems to me that this "problem" can be solved by adding a character's thirst indicator to the DST. Let them wash down their food and snack on drinks)) And also replenish the necessary water balance. This can be easily adapted to different seasons or biomes. For example, in the desert, obviously a lot of water will be needed. And you can also expand crafting, for example, creating a flask, or a boiler Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1664105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 1 hour ago, gamehun20 said: Mean while cooked potato Praise be the mighty potato. Risk free staple healing food. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1664107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted September 8, 2023 Author Share Posted September 8, 2023 3 hours ago, MostMerryTomcat said: It's ok. I've been too harsh on you. Sorry. In future, though, pls do try to post funny "just for laughs" stuff in Maxwell's memes. General section gets cluttered quickly and is hard to follow news and such - this also to address Mysterious' post of why I got bothered. And don't take to heart that much my remarks, Mysterious, in fact I as well desire more late-game Survival oriented content like progression (new seasonal weather patterns, meteorological phenomenons, evolved mobs etc), only that am not an adept of "the stick" approach in balance (aka what was "Uncompromising Mode"s base philosophy), but of "the carrot": minute bons for using a strat or another. Aka non-hard nerfs. Same for foods: have weak foods brought to meta foods standards and morph environment into "the aggressor" (said progression). Thank you, i have forgiven you Tom cat Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1664111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Spino43 said: It's mike. He expects you, me, klei, and everyone else to play the same way he does. Don't question it. I mean.. if I’m the host, yeah… that’s kinda the point of being the host isn’t it? Your World, Your Rules. Just like if you were to join my game season in Minecraft, State of Decay, 7 Days to Die or TMNT Shredders Revenge- You play by MY Settings, and if you don’t like it… you find a different server to join or you host your own. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1664122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 6 hours ago, MostMerryTomcat said: It's ok. I've been too harsh on you. Sorry. In future, though, pls do try to post funny "just for laughs" stuff in Maxwell's memes. General section gets cluttered quickly and is hard to follow news and such - this also to address Mysterious' post of why I got bothered. And don't take to heart that much my remarks, Mysterious, in fact I as well desire more late-game Survival oriented content like progression (new seasonal weather patterns, meteorological phenomenons, evolved mobs etc), only that am not an adept of "the stick" approach in balance (aka what was "Uncompromising Mode"s base philosophy), but of "the carrot": minute bons for using a strat or another. Aka non-hard nerfs. Same for foods: have weak foods brought to meta foods standards and morph environment into "the aggressor" (said progression). I get where your coming from I would like to mention however that the changes I wanted to add from uncomp were geared to making things easier not the additional downsides. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150825-solution-to-the-dst-food-issue/page/2/#findComment-1664147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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