Isn't it too easy to break pig houses for the materials?

[_zwb]

Just now, Mike23Ua said:

Can players “Deconstruct” the completely free Umbrellas you get from the Briar Hounds to get pigskin if they needed it?

Yes, you can also deconstruct football helmets from the labyrinth to renew pigskin

[gamehun20]

1 minute ago, Mike23Ua said:

Can players “Deconstruct” the completely free Umbrellas you get from the Briar Hounds to get pigskin if they needed it?

With a deconstruction staff yeah

[Philip.]

1 minute ago, gamehun20 said:

You can just kill the pigmen first then hammer 

Sure, but not everybody knows how to kite them or wants to deal with them at all. Especially when they are in a group.

This change would have minimal effect on experienced players.

[Ulisesvolador]

6 minutes ago, Philip. said:

Sure, but not everybody knows how to kite them or wants to deal with them at all. Especially when they are in a group.

You can also just run, it will just take more time to hammer houses.

[Mike23Ua]

10 minutes ago, Ulisesvolador said:

You can also just run, it will just take more time to hammer houses.

RiftCrystals 2.0

[ALCRD]

7 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

I think that a player who destroys every pig house is only there to troll.. 

A equally think that pigskin should be more easily obtainable should such a scenario of having all pig houses/pig heads on a Stick in the world destroyed Hamlet gave Pigskin from “Batwaves” which was Hamlet version of Hound Waves, so it would be cool to have a source for pigskin that players can’t kill into extinction (such as bats..)

Once you have a steady supply of Pigskin you can Build your own pig village.

Honestly i would prefer Hamlet Batwaves in DST Caves instead the Depthworm waves we got.

Or maybe 50% for either when wave is about to trigger.

[Wonz]

I wish there was some early game irremovable source of pig skin just for sake of public multiplayer.

Because some "ruin rusher" wiping them all off the map and dying in labirynth to spiders will result in no umbrellas or desert goggles to deal with spring and summer better.

And no, getting star caller staff and waiting for full moon isn't something late comers can do easily enough to be motivated to stay despite all skins and houses gone. 

[Guille6785]

I have over 5000 hours and never seen a single person singlehandedly destroy every single pig house in a public world unless they were intentionally griefing, I know some people on these forums take every opportunity they can to complain about imaginary ruins rushers which makes sense until you think about it for more than 5 seconds and realize that ruins rushers are the least likely people to hammer more than just 4-6 houses unless they really don't know what they're doing

frankly I've seen more people destroy pig houses that weren't rushing any bosses or ruins at all than people who were

[Masked Koopa]

I think it should be added purely for some flavour. No need to make the pigs totally ignorant, they can still be comedically stupid without being totally unaware of their surroundings. Could also throw in some other misc stuff like them being upset at you for stealing from their farms, or them giving stuff to PK if he is nearby.

[Mike23Ua]

1 hour ago, Wonz said:

I wish there was some early game irremovable source of pig skin just for sake of public multiplayer.

Because some "ruin rusher" wiping them all off the map and dying in labirynth to spiders will result in no umbrellas or desert goggles to deal with spring and summer better.

And no, getting star caller staff and waiting for full moon isn't something late comers can do easily enough to be motivated to stay despite all skins and houses gone. 

That’s not exactly true.. you can get a lot of completely free stuff from the Briar Hounds (which only take two hits with a spear to kill as even Wes) they’re intentionally a weak mob.. they’re made out of a Bush… and they yield crazy good loots, ranging from everything to sewing kits & Umbrellas to Miners Helmets.

https://dontstarve.fandom.com/wiki/Briar_Wolf

You will still probably need a Deconstruction Staff to get Pig Skin.. or maybe you can use this thing.. 

https://dontstarve.fandom.com/wiki/Composting_Bin

Honestly I don’t know… but I don’t think it’s fair to expect players to get some late game staff and do some Moon calling event just to get renewable pigskin, if I were a Dev at Klei I’d make it as Newbie friendly as throwing an Umbrella you get from Briar Hounds over into a Composting Bin spitting out 1 pig skin.

[Mysterious box]

I think a funny trade off would be if the amount of pig houses in the world drop below a certain threshold all pigs becomes hostile stronger variants that spawn throughout the world every x amount of days and wander around dropping guaranteed pig skin on kill. In theory the solution would be to build more pig houses to calm their rage or if your feeling daring leave them all near homeless for a more dangerous and hostile but rewarding mob in the world.

[ALCRD]

1 hour ago, Mysterious box said:

I think a funny trade off would be if the amount of pig houses in the world drop below a certain threshold all pigs becomes hostile stronger variants that spawn throughout the world every x amount of days and wander around dropping guaranteed pig skin on kill. In theory the solution would be to build more pig houses to calm their rage or if your feeling daring leave them all near homeless for a more dangerous and hostile but rewarding mob in the world.

Pig Waves

[Frosty_Mentos]

They give an amazing start for resources and I always do that when there's free village to destroy. Already you can set up so many buildings at your base and some pig houses as addition without needing more to do. Plus if you hire and keep all those pigs it's basically more wood and combat units for you to have.

[Wonz]

5 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

That’s not exactly true.. you can get a lot of completely free stuff from the Briar Hounds (which only take two hits with a spear to kill as even Wes) they’re intentionally a weak mob.. they’re made out of a Bush… and they yield crazy good loots, ranging from everything to sewing kits & Umbrellas to Miners Helmets.

https://dontstarve.fandom.com/wiki/Briar_Wolf

You will still probably need a Deconstruction Staff to get Pig Skin.. or maybe you can use this thing.. 

https://dontstarve.fandom.com/wiki/Composting_Bin

Honestly I don’t know… but I don’t think it’s fair to expect players to get some late game staff and do some Moon calling event just to get renewable pigskin, if I were a Dev at Klei I’d make it as Newbie friendly as throwing an Umbrella you get from Briar Hounds over into a Composting Bin spitting out 1 pig skin.

That's rng and for just one person. 

[Sacco]

On 8/12/2023 at 3:42 AM, Mike23Ua said:

I think that a player who destroys every pig house is only there to troll.. 

A equally think that pigskin should be more easily obtainable should such a scenario of having all pig houses/pig heads on a Stick in the world destroyed Hamlet gave Pigskin from “Batwaves” which was Hamlet version of Hound Waves, so it would be cool to have a source for pigskin that players can’t kill into extinction (such as bats..)

Once you have a steady supply of Pigskin you can Build your own pig village.

Pig houses are so useful.

With the materials they drop you can craft a lot of things such as alchemy engine, chests, crock pots and other things.

When i seen a pig house i always destroy it because it gives me free resources.

I also make a pig farm later on.

 

[Dr. Safety]

9 hours ago, Mysterious box said:

I think a funny trade off would be if the amount of pig houses in the world drop below a certain threshold all pigs becomes hostile stronger variants that spawn throughout the world every x amount of days and wander around dropping guaranteed pig skin on kill. In theory the solution would be to build more pig houses to calm their rage or if your feeling daring leave them all near homeless for a more dangerous and hostile but rewarding mob in the world.

Just like the first few frames of the WX cinematic. I actually like this idea a lot lol

[Mike23Ua]

4 hours ago, Wonz said:

That's rng and for just one person. 

You can farm these hounds as much as you like, it does have a short cooldown period of like a day I think.. but otherwise here’s how you do it:

Step One- Find the Stage Play Area.

Step Two- Don’t wear any of the costumes it’s wanting you to wear at all and just get on the stage as you are and perform (I love Woodie.. err Lucy’s* Stage Performance By the Way )

Step Three- The curtain will close after your performance and Briar Hounds will spawn, Kill them for Random Loot Yields.

Better yet.. Step Elite Expert Awareness Mode: You can actually see the items the wolves will drop spawn into their bodies as they’re spawning in (not a glitch this is intended..) So you’ll know if killing them is worth your time or not.

The Next Logical Step: Kill them Anyway so you can try again on the next cooldown period.

Now as far as Deconstructing Umbrellas just to get pigskin goes… I think that’s a relic of Dont Starves past and there should be more easier Noob friendly ways to renew it.

[gamehun20]

2 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

like a day I think.

3-6 days 

[Wonz]

6 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

You can farm these hounds as much as you like, it does have a short cooldown period of like a day I think.. but otherwise here’s how you do it:

Step One- Find the Stage Play Area.

Step Two- Don’t wear any of the costumes it’s wanting you to wear at all and just get on the stage as you are and perform (I love Woodie.. err Lucy’s* Stage Performance By the Way )

Step Three- The curtain will close after your performance and Briar Hounds will spawn, Kill them for Random Loot Yields.

Better yet.. Step Elite Expert Awareness Mode: You can actually see the items the wolves will drop spawn into their bodies as they’re spawning in (not a glitch this is intended..) So you’ll know if killing them is worth your time or not.

The Next Logical Step: Kill them Anyway so you can try again on the next cooldown period.

Now as far as Deconstructing Umbrellas just to get pigskin goes… I think that’s a relic of Dont Starves past and there should be more easier Noob friendly ways to renew it.

What's the point of writting all that?
I know how to use stage, it's still rng and still for one person. The stage isn't closed for a day it's closed 3-6 days according to wiki but from what I've been checking in like 30 tries results were in between 4.3 to 5.3 days in this time player will die to weather and it's only 1 out of 7 item pools for umbrella and another 1 out of 7 for pretty parasol which needs rain hat to work. That's not gonna cut it for someone knowledgable yet someone fresh trying to not get destroyed by weather. 

It would be nice if people wanted to join in other seasons than just autumn

[Mike23Ua]

51 minutes ago, Wonz said:

What's the point of writting all that?
I know how to use stage, it's still rng and still for one person. The stage isn't closed for a day it's closed 3-6 days according to wiki but from what I've been checking in like 30 tries results were in between 4.3 to 5.3 days in this time player will die to weather and it's only 1 out of 7 item pools for umbrella and another 1 out of 7 for pretty parasol which needs rain hat to work. That's not gonna cut it for someone knowledgable yet someone fresh trying to not get destroyed by weather. 

It would be nice if people wanted to join in other seasons than just autumn

Isn’t that very specifically why the game now gives you free starting resources for the particular season your in if you join a world after Day 10?

Ive joined worlds where all I’ve had were these starting resources and I’ve had to use these emergency resources to survive long enough to get Established enough to Survive the Season.

Not everyone enjoys this kind of challenge I get that, But the resources your given ARE enough to keep you alive long enough to get better ones.

Assuming of course- That your not playing on PC with a whooping 12 players running around gathering every resource in sight..

Nintendo Switch maxs out at 4.

Ps4/PS5, Xbox One/Series XS Max out at 6.

12 is just far too many…

[Gashzer]

Pig houses should slowly respawn around pig king.

[Prinha]

11 hours ago, Wonz said:

what I've been checking in like 30 tries results were in between 4.3 to 5.3 days in this time player will die to weather and it's only 1 out of 7 item pools for umbrella and another 1 out of 7 for pretty parasol which needs rain hat to work. That's not gonna cut it for someone knowledgable yet someone fresh trying to not get destroyed by weather. 

It would be nice if people wanted to join in other seasons than just autumn

If this is only about umbrella, then use raincoat. I know it's not ideal with backpack griefers en masse, but it's good enough. I have done so many times. The rainhat is also decent even without any additional protection. And idk, what you are talking about, pretty parasol is normally the easiest item to make, it doesn't even require science and flowers respawn in spring anyways.

Still public servers running out of pig skin is indeed a major problem. It's about everybody hammering down whatever pig houses they come across and then never sharing the pigskin they got this way. Doesn't matter wether they die with it or log out or simply keep it in their inventory forever. My biggest issue is actually the difficulty of crafting desert goggles, especially since the oasis is usually the safest possible community base spot for a public server.

The best source of pigskin in such a world is normally the moon stone event. Any 'ruins rushers' usually leave enough uncleared stuff to make a star caller or two. If however we get to the point, where we also have to fight FW just to get pigskin, hallelujah. That's the point, where I simply prompt the "regenerate world?" server poll.