Jakepeng99 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 I am not asking for some nerf or anything, just pointing it out to everyone. The moose makes brightshades so easy since the aoe from the slam is able to one shot multiple vines at once and defeat vines that try to attack you while you attack the bulb. The moose has potential to hit mutltiple brightshade plants at once if they are close enough for the aoe. The moose deals enough damage to mostly one cycle a brightshade. On top of this, it takes much less damage from them aswell. The 90% reduction applies to planar damage aswell, on top of the Planar defense the moose already has. In a scenario where 3 or more brightshades would cause pain and stress, the moose makes it a breeze. I think this makes Woodie very useful since the only other truly effective ways at clearing a big clump are merms and catapults, though these 3 options are still character exclusive. Edit: The 3rd punch slam also has planar damage. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150055-the-new-moose-is-extremely-effective-against-brightshades/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirsg Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 He's effective, but not as effective as the brightshade sword itself. Also, to transform against just 3 at one time is troublesome. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150055-the-new-moose-is-extremely-effective-against-brightshades/#findComment-1656141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted July 31, 2023 Author Share Posted July 31, 2023 8 minutes ago, chirsg said: He's effective, but not as effective as the brightshade sword itself. Also, to transform against just 3 at one time is troublesome. No he is much better, the aoe lets him take out multiple vines at once. Try it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150055-the-new-moose-is-extremely-effective-against-brightshades/#findComment-1656143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirsg Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Jakepeng99 said: No he is much better, the aoe lets him take out multiple vines at once. Try it. Yeah, I have. I've done it. I've also copped a lot of damage from one single interaction. It's good. I won't say it's not. It's just a big commitment to transform for a single interaction. For 6 brightshades, it's good value to go moose. But for just 3? Seems like a good amount of trouble. Not just that, for each time brightshades are opened from the vine death, you're only killing one whole brightshade one round at a time if you're perfect. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150055-the-new-moose-is-extremely-effective-against-brightshades/#findComment-1656160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gashzer Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Moose also wrecks the ink blights, you can kite them out to attack or just very easily charge them repeatly until they all die. Woodie has the best AoE attack in the game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150055-the-new-moose-is-extremely-effective-against-brightshades/#findComment-1656162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted July 31, 2023 Author Share Posted July 31, 2023 49 minutes ago, chirsg said: Yeah, I have. I've done it. I've also copped a lot of damage from one single interaction. It's good. I won't say it's not. It's just a big commitment to transform for a single interaction. For 6 brightshades, it's good value to go moose. But for just 3? Seems like a good amount of trouble. Not just that, for each time brightshades are opened from the vine death, you're only killing one whole brightshade one round at a time if you're perfect. 3 monster meat and 2 grass aint so bad late game to kill a hard to kill mob. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150055-the-new-moose-is-extremely-effective-against-brightshades/#findComment-1656172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 4 hours ago, Jakepeng99 said: since the only other truly effective ways at clearing a big clump are merms and catapults, though these 3 options are still character exclusive. Interestingly Walter's slingshot is quite good for dealing with brightshade infestations as well since you can skip the vine phase. I already noticed this from what I played Walter in uncompromising mode mod but despite how lackluster Walter's perk feel they actually tend to play out a lot better and feel more impactful when the world itself is more dangerous...at least before they removed his slingshot... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150055-the-new-moose-is-extremely-effective-against-brightshades/#findComment-1656201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohan Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 I think it would be a shorter list to list the foes new weremoose is not extremely effective against Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150055-the-new-moose-is-extremely-effective-against-brightshades/#findComment-1656204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted July 31, 2023 Author Share Posted July 31, 2023 43 minutes ago, Ohan said: I think it would be a shorter list to list the foes new weremoose is not extremely effective against Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh ocean mobs except crab king. I will be honest the moose is actually really op for how cheap it is, though it is fun. 54 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: Interestingly Walter's slingshot is quite good for dealing with brightshade infestations as well since you can skip the vine phase. I already noticed this from what I played Walter in uncompromising mode mod but despite how lackluster Walter's perk feel they actually tend to play out a lot better and feel more impactful when the world itself is more dangerous...at least before they removed his slingshot... Winona's catapults is what i meant. Walter uses a slingshot. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150055-the-new-moose-is-extremely-effective-against-brightshades/#findComment-1656213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxil20 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 8 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: I will be honest the moose is actually really op for how cheap it is, though it is fun. I’ll still take a form overpreforming then underperforming any day. Moose prior to the tree was extremely niche, and still has quite a few downsides (most notably not being able to equip anything and being completely reliant on jellybeans/Wortox souls for more healing in combat), so I do feel it’s in a good spot. Plus, it gives a good opportunity to hear the unique theme it has :P 2 hours ago, Jakepeng99 said: 3 monster meat and 2 grass aint so bad late game to kill a hard to kill mob. I feel like a lot of people don’t realize how cheap the idols are later on. Whenever you get a depth work wave, you can make 4-6 idols of your choosing, and still make a respectable amount from hound waves. Combined with the fact they no longer spoil, it’s pretty easy to stockpile a large supply of whatever idol you need. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/150055-the-new-moose-is-extremely-effective-against-brightshades/#findComment-1656217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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