Deerclops Mika Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 I really like to collect old puzzles with which the players were pleased by the developers. All information about them is on the wiki. I completely dismantled the puzzles from the Don't Starve trailers and the William Carter puzzle. Now I will analyze Forgotten Knowledge Puzzles. It would be easier for me to parse it if many sites related to the puzzle had not been removed for some reason. The same goes for forums. It looks like the huge one where people discussed and sorted out the puzzle has been removed and all that's left of it is a couple of pages that can only be viewed using the wayback machine.I will talk about what I managed to find and disassemble, but I feel that some pieces of the puzzle are eluding me. Here are the resources from where I learned about how the puzzle is played: Spoiler https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/35678-mysterious-notes/ https://web.archive.org/web/20160102084412/http://forums.kleientertainment.com/topic/35678-mysterious-notes/ https://web.archive.org/web/20160102084436/http://forums.kleientertainment.com/topic/35678-mysterious-notes/page-44 https://web.archive.org/web/20160102153705/http://forums.kleientertainment.com/topic/35678-mysterious-notes/page-65#entry466978 https://web.archive.org/web/20160102153655/http://forums.kleientertainment.com/topic/35678-mysterious-notes/page-99 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwecnCUUBSU Part 1 In the trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btI6Eyqv01c) Don't Starve: Reign of Giants Expansion Release Trailer at 0:55 second, frame 25 can be detected.We see a board on which there is a link. By clicking on the link, we get to the site where you can find 3 cells. In them we must enter the number of items and their names. (https://web.archive.org/web/20160102084403/http://forums.kleientertainment.com/science/craft/prototype.php) There is a map on the top right. By clicking on it we see the map in full size. At the bottom left we see the notation, which allows you to understand how to measure the distance. Thanks to this, one of the users lined the map. The frequent mention of birds and the number 17 allows us to understand that the clue lies in them. In the game at that time, birds appeared that flew in and brought paper. If you examine the paper, the player will say the coordinates. Here are all the coordinates that could be obtained. 1 (-16, 16) 2 (-22, 9) 3 ( 10,-16) 4 (-11, -4) 5 ( 6, 2) 7 ( -4, -8) 8 ( 20, -2) 9 ( 2, 20) 10 (-13, 8) 20 (-22, 1) 30 (-10,-16) 40 ( 16, -2) 50 ( 13, -7) 60 ( 6,-23) 100 (-14, 16) 300 (-6, 13) 400 (-18, 6) The origin of the coordinate point must be taken where it is on the Wilson map. Here's what I got. Coordinate number 2 leads nowhere, which is why we get a total of 16 items. We need to have an input that since we are looking for items for crafting, we need to know not the object to which the coordinate leads, but the resource that can be obtained from it. And so our answer is: 8 rock, 4 silk and 4 berries. However, we should have 16 items. In the skull24 video and in a small piece of the forum, you can understand that the correct answer is 8 rock, 5 silk and 4 berries. However, unfortunately the site archive does not accept any of the answers. Additional information: Spoiler The original forum states that their initial answer was 7 rock, 5 silk and 4 berries. Either I managed to make a mistake 2 times, or they also encountered an error, but did not remember where, and therefore decided that the original answer was 7 rock, 5 silk and 4 berries. Which is strange since they have a forum. Despite this, they had an explanation for where another coordinate disappeared: "The first number on each note corresponds to a Greek letter, as per this chart. We assume that 70, 80, 90, and 500+ are not used. Vau, or 6, is an obsolete character. So, the last note is either 9 or 200. Someone discounted 200, but I'm not sure why, as sigma is still in use.". Also, if you look at the game logs, when the player examines the coordinates, it says "It's Greek to me". I also have to remind you that the coordinate number 2 does not lead anywhere, and perhaps this was a mistake by the developers. Part 2 After we have entered the correct answer, we get to the following site: https://web.archive.org/web/20160102153418/http://forums.kleientertainment.com/science/craft/part2.php. We see two input fields. If we go into the code of the page, we will find an ASCII image of the Antikythera mechanism there. Or we should find it there, because for some reason I did not find it in the archive files. This is supposedly the correct answer. However, if we enter it into an archive site, we get nothing. Part 3 After that, we should get to the third site. It differs from the past only by the inscription on top. Now it says "Not crazy" 12 times. 2nd, 6th and 10th time the letter C is written in italics. Also, the two input fields in the files are referred to as "alone" and "together". The background for the puzzle is named "wish-upon-a-star.jpg". Unfortunately, my further investigation came to a standstill. Here is some information I found out: Previously, Greek something was very often mentioned ... For example, the mechanism mentioned earlier is ancient Greek. When studying the coordinates in the logs, it says "It's Greek to me". If we compare the 2nd, 6th and 10th numbers with the ancient Greek numbers, we get Beta, Zeta, and Kappa. These 3 symbols are able to indicate the level of brightness of a star. According to some information from the Internet, when people wish upon a star (Wish upon a star is the name of the background image) people are actually wishing upon Venus. In certain Greek stories Zeus believed if they were every separated chaos would reign, (Together and Alone) The correct answer to the puzzle is Castor and Pollux. What is Castor and Pollux? Well, these are the stars of the constellation of twins, the only ones that fall into the Beta category. It must all be connected somehow... I also learned the information that somewhere and in some way the points must connect in such a way that the constellation of twins would turn out. I tried everything, but nothing worked. I'm starting to go "Crazy". I don't understand how the puzzle should be solved. All these inconsistencies and remote forums and sites only complicate the situation. As if something obvious and simple is slipping through my hands. I don't understand what I need to do next... Help. Perhaps there are people here who solved this puzzle in their time and know how it should be solved. Or can someone help discover the answer. Perhaps one of the old developers remembers how this is solved. Because my sanity is at 0 after learning this and nightmares start biting my leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Rage Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 9 minutes ago, Deerclops Mika said: Part 3 After that, we should get to the third site. The correct answer to the puzzle is Castor and Pollux. What is Castor and Pollux? Well, these are the stars of the constellation of twins, the only ones that fall into the Beta category. "Castor" is "beaver" and "pollux" is "horse", if my common knowledge isn't completely off. Now I feel like Wickerbottom. xdddd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_zwb Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 6 minutes ago, Captain_Rage said: "Castor" is "beaver" and "pollux" is "horse", if my common knowledge isn't completely off. Now I feel like Wickerbottom. xdddd It is. Castor is beaver in french. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassielu Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 1 hour ago, Deerclops Mika said: The second coordinate position you marked is (-22, 5) instead of (-22, 9) in the clue. It should be right on a spider den. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerclops Mika Posted June 11 Author Share Posted June 11 6 hours ago, Cassielu said: The second coordinate position you marked is (-22, 5) instead of (-22, 9) in the clue. It should be right on a spider den. Oh. Pf... Yes, you are right. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerclops Mika Posted June 12 Author Share Posted June 12 I blanked out some answers. The map problem was basically my fault. However, I realized how the puzzle is solved. When Greek is mentioned in the game logs when reading an entry, this hints at the Greek alphabet. All numbers in front of the coordinates correspond to the letter of the Greek alphabet. So, we need to arrange the Greek letters on the map. This begins to remind us of a map of the constellation of the twins. Having connected all the points, we understand that this is really a map of the twins. Regardless, I have a question. Why "Wish Upon a star", 2nd, 6th and 10th letter C, "Together" and "Alone" are needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridley Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 1 hour ago, Deerclops Mika said: Regardless, I have a question. Why "Wish Upon a star", 2nd, 6th and 10th letter C, "Together" and "Alone" are needed? I only faintly remember this puzzle as I was no help in solving any of it. That being said, "Wish Upon a star" might have been a hint to look at star names. I remember thinking, "I could try looking at constellation names and seeing if anything fits", but I was lazy and never did. Instead I ended up kicking myself for it, a mistake I would repeat in another puzzle. "Together" and "Alone" may not be hints, but teasers. This puzzle was leading up to the announcement of multiplayer, a long requested and debated feature. We even had this fan made emote we'd respond to unending multiplayer threads. Klei believed it wasn't feasible to add multiplayer at the time, until some interns surprised them with a playable multiplayer mod. Klei went from a hard no to a giddy yes after that, hence the extravagant puzzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerclops Mika Posted June 12 Author Share Posted June 12 4 minutes ago, Ridley said: I only faintly remember this puzzle as I was no help in solving any of it. That being said, "Wish Upon a star" might have been a hint to look at star names. I remember thinking, "I could try looking at constellation names and seeing if anything fits", but I was lazy and never did. Instead I ended up kicking myself for it, a mistake I would repeat in another puzzle. "Together" and "Alone" may not be hints, but teasers. This puzzle was leading up to the announcement of multiplayer, a long requested and debated feature. We even had this fan made emote we'd respond to unending multiplayer threads. Klei believed it wasn't feasible to add multiplayer at the time, until some interns surprised them with a playable multiplayer mod. Klei went from a hard no to a giddy yes after that, hence the extravagant puzzle. Understood, thank you! It seems I understood how it was originally decided. The only thing I don't understand is what the letters C are for. I also thought that "Together" and "Alone" might be a reference to the story of Castor and Pollux in Greek mythology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maradyne Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 9 hours ago, Ridley said: Klei believed it wasn't feasible to add multiplayer at the time, until some interns surprised them with a playable multiplayer mod. Klei went from a hard no to a giddy yes after that, hence the extravagant puzzle. A funny trip back in time. We...kind of had multiplayer on the workshop even before that. Unless this is the forespoken interns? IDK lol. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=172291214 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridley Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 hour ago, maradyne said: A funny trip back in time. We...kind of had multiplayer on the workshop even before that. Unless this is the forespoken interns? IDK lol. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=172291214 That wouldn't be the stuff I am thinking about, but it is very interesting. I don't recall that mod. Klei thought it was too late in development to restructure the game for online play and local multiplayer was a subpar experience. (Take these stories of mine with a grain of salt. It has been a decade you know?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkenpelz Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Holy schmoly, I came in waayyy to late to the Dont Starve party, during year of the carrat. PLEASE Klei make such a complex and obscure puzzle again, I missed out on something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerclops Mika Posted June 15 Author Share Posted June 15 Looks like I was wrong. Here are a couple of things that I found in the game files of those years, but I have no idea what they mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkenpelz Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 On 6/15/2023 at 8:42 PM, Deerclops Mika said: Looks like I was wrong. Here are a couple of things that I found in the game files of those years, but I have no idea what they mean Where did you even find that? And what would you make of the totally normal table, other than the fact that "crazy" and "alone" aren't items? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerclops Mika Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 2 hours ago, Falkenpelz said: Where did you even find that? And what would you make of the totally normal table, other than the fact that "crazy" and "alone" aren't items? In the game logs, it is written that when characters read notes, the game accesses this file Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerclops Mika Posted June 22 Author Share Posted June 22 So. Here is the solution to this crazy puzzle. If you know russian, then I made a video in this language https://dontstarve.fandom.com/wiki/Forgotten_Knowledge_Puzzles Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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