YouKnowWho Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 For the uninitiated: boat lips are what the files call these cone looking things. They're put under the flat shape of the boats to create this nice 3d water displacing effect. I like this effect a lot, but it's always bothered me how it ends up making the boats look like they're resting on a weird gray cone. I mean, they technically are resting on a weird gray cone, but I can't help but think it'd look much nicer if it were made brown like the boats themself and were given some rope details, though If that ever were to happen it'd be nice to have the different boat skins also taken into account. What are your thoughts? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147506-boat-lips-look-a-little-odd/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Rage Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 My thoughts are that it was made deliberately to be consistent with Wigfrid's lower lip being the upper border of her mouth in this vignette. No, the boats never bothered me. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147506-boat-lips-look-a-little-odd/#findComment-1632840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antynomity Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 I've never even seen the gray part so it doesn't really bother me but I guess they could change the colour? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147506-boat-lips-look-a-little-odd/#findComment-1632868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornete Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 7 hours ago, YouKnowWho said: For the uninitiated: boat lips are what the files call these cone things. They're put under the flat shape of the boats to create this nice 3d water displacing effect. I like this effect a lot, but it's always bothered me how it ends up making the boats look like they're resting on a weird gray cone. I mean, they technically are resting on a weird gray cone, but I can't help but think it'd look much nicer if it were made brown like the boats themself and were given some rope details, though If that ever were to happen it'd be nice to have the different boat skins also taken into account. What are your thoughts? Personally I'm more bothered by how it looks odd at certain angles. The lines for the boat lip like seen in the image are meant to line up with the actual planks of the boat, making it look like the edge planks are 3d like in your 2nd image. But rotate your camera, and now the lines don't match up with the boat's planks as the sprite is still the same. but the orientation of the boat to the camera is different Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147506-boat-lips-look-a-little-odd/#findComment-1632877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanasdf Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 7 hours ago, Captain_Rage said: My thoughts are that it was made deliberately to be consistent with Wigfrid's lower lip being the upper border of her mouth in this vignette. That seems wrong... Aren't those supposed to be her teeth? I guess not considering in the artworks she's missing one Either way now I can't unsee it, It looks like she has both lips up and her mouth opens from below. Though those kind of big lips are more common for Winona Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147506-boat-lips-look-a-little-odd/#findComment-1632880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouKnowWho Posted April 30, 2023 Author Share Posted April 30, 2023 8 hours ago, Hornete said: Personally I'm more bothered by how it looks odd at certain angles. The lines for the boat lip like seen in the image are meant to line up with the actual planks of the boat, making it look like the edge planks are 3d like in your 2nd image. But rotate your camera, and now the lines don't match up with the boat's planks as the sprite is still the same. but the orientation of the boat to the camera is different I imagine you're right, but that brings up the question of why the grass raft has those same lines. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147506-boat-lips-look-a-little-odd/#findComment-1632919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouKnowWho Posted May 2, 2023 Author Share Posted May 2, 2023 One more thing worth mentioning is the fact that the lips don't actually rotate along with the boats, creating this carousal-type affair. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147506-boat-lips-look-a-little-odd/#findComment-1633219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuko Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 On 4/30/2023 at 8:39 AM, Juanasdf said: That seems wrong... Aren't those supposed to be her teeth? I guess not considering in the artworks she's missing one Either way now I can't unsee it, It looks like she has both lips up and her mouth opens from below. Though those kind of big lips are more common for Winona Ya know I was okay, I really was... until you explained it and now I can't unsee it either what eldritch horror is this kelie? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147506-boat-lips-look-a-little-odd/#findComment-1633222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 I can't stop giggling at how divide this thread got. Half is talking about the boat and the other half is about Wigfrid. Anyways, I don't mind the boat lip. I swore it was the same color but seems not. If anything I'd want it to be thicker and more 3D looking, go from the rim right into the water. Sort of how it appears here. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147506-boat-lips-look-a-little-odd/#findComment-1633284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouKnowWho Posted May 3, 2023 Author Share Posted May 3, 2023 19 hours ago, -Variant said: I can't stop giggling at how divide this thread got. Half is talking about the boat and the other half is about Wigfrid. Anyways, I don't mind the boat lip. I swore it was the same color but seems not. If anything I'd want it to be thicker and more 3D looking, go from the rim right into the water. Sort of how it appears here. This would be my dream, though I imagine it'd take quite a bit more tinkering with the game's engine. Then again, Klei did just that with the animated brightshade equipment, so who knows? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147506-boat-lips-look-a-little-odd/#findComment-1633432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 I can't unsee it now. I am really upset I read this post. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/147506-boat-lips-look-a-little-odd/#findComment-1633433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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