Pigelemann Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 I did a series of tests and several beta testers went through my hands (almost all survived). And as a result of repeated experiments, I can say that the Lunar Champion's farm is quite real. She works with absolute efficiency. I want to say thank you to everyone who helped with testing and allowed us to come to this discovery, which will make life easier for players in the endgame. The result of hard work is here: https://youtu.be/pCIn5m8Vrpg Chief Engineer: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198340503695 (Pigelemann) I am grateful to: https://steamcommunity.com/id/castiliano (Castiliano) https://steamcommunity.com/id/darkenergy6745 (Jonny) https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199045665523 (Flaperon) To use this system, no armor, no weapons, no waste of resources are needed (with the exception of accidental laser hits on the main boat) P.S. The farm is protected from rain, frog rain, spontaneous combustion, overheating and pirate raids (another secret technology). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eughstein Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 ahh yes easy strategy that every dst player can repeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 I mean I can see all the effort this must have taken and find it cool at that, but any boss with unlimited resources and unlimited time can be auto farmed. To my point of view it doesn’t seem an “efficient” design having to kill fuelweaver and AG 36 times just to do this. It seems mostly a luxury for after you really don’t have anything else to do in the world, and maybe want to create a full city with street lights during the rest of your time. To me it would be more appealing if it could maybe be done during the first or second year with Winona’s catapults (which, you probably can) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoodlemanNed Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 what if you dedicated the same amount of time into spawning a whole bunch of treeguards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spino43 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Idk man, getting all those houndius shootiuses is way more tedious than, you know, just fighting him normally. If anything, Wolfgang with Spicy Jelly takes like half a day to take down CC, without the hassle to reset the ruins 36 times. Cool farm, but calling it a cheese when fighting normally is way better and simpler is uh, debatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
. . . Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 pretty cool but this not really cheese anything can be destroyed like this tbh lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyo33 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 This "farm" worked only because you have that land formation that trap the CC. Not everybody can have that and if you place the shootius in the land or boat they'll die easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gi-Go Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Seriously? This is the ultimate invention you guys came up with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eughstein Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 i like how you have pet NoodlemanNed at your base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dzzydzzy Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Peyo33 said: This "farm" worked only because you have that land formation that trap the CC. Not everybody can have that and if you place the shootius in the land or boat they'll die easily. Docks, mate. It's not easy to tell in the vid cause there's snow but I'm pretty sure the "land formation" is from docks built of a corner of lunar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Even though the blame goes to the docks, if you have enough resources to build 50 houndius it probably doesn't really matter by that point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanasdf Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 You can do the same with just one houndious, it'll just take more time What you need to do is use the smaller islands on your world, bait CC to the shore, and if you position yourself (and the houndious) correctly CC won't use lasers / gestalts. Edit: Realizing now the explanation was very vague. IIRC there is a range in which CC phase 2 will not use the gestalt attack, and a range in which phase 3 will do nothing at all. If you get too close they will try to attack you with those, if you go too far away they'll forget about you and start focusing the houndious. Phase 2 will still try to do its spin attack and the glass spikes (which can't go through sea) Phase 3 won't do anything if you stand on a specific distance, this is because CC will react to what you do according to its cooldowns, therefore not moving towards/away from him will keep him on its place, (similar to how he will not move vs whip range weapons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALCRD Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Time to cheese the Fuel Weaver bajilion times to be able to cheese the Celestial Champion. PEAK EFFICIENCY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuko Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 While this is obviously a bit overkill on the shootius field lol obviously that's just a factor of speed. Less shootius just means a slower kill, but it would still get there. The tall trees are more a creature comfort too, right? If you took those out, but minded the season / hound attack timer / etc you'd sitll get the kill. This is more "final version," while there is also likely a more trim but workable version you could get going earlier. Its really the layout of the docks that enables this. I know some people aren't digging this b/c of the sheer volumn of shootius BUT would 4 pods of 8 catapults ko CC before they burn through 3 gems? If that has the damage, this could be set up a lot faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigelemann Posted February 8, 2023 Author Share Posted February 8, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 11:21 PM, ShadowDuelist said: To me it would be more appealing if it could maybe be done during the first or second year with Winona’s catapults (which, you probably can) On 2/4/2023 at 11:51 PM, NoodlemanNed said: what if you dedicated the same amount of time into spawning a whole bunch of treeguards On 2/5/2023 at 4:02 PM, Gi-Go said: Seriously? On 2/5/2023 at 6:26 PM, Juanasdf said: Phase 3 won't do anything if you stand on a specific distance, this is because CC will react to what you do according to its cooldowns, therefore not moving towards/away from him will keep him on its place, (similar to how he will not move vs whip range weapons) On 2/6/2023 at 10:04 PM, Shosuko said: I know some people aren't digging this b/c of the sheer volumn of shootius BUT would 4 pods of 8 catapults ko CC before they burn through 3 gems? If that has the damage, this could be set up a lot faster. Heeeey, Gringos I see, u have questions I have answers for u good deal, dont worry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuko Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Pigelemann said: good deal, dont worry Thanks for putting in the effort to test that out ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanasdf Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Guess I'm a gringo now... *cries in devaluated currency* My brother in christ, you are standing in a boat, mobs will aggro differently on boat and on land. What I said was that CC would not do anything standing in a set distance if you were on another piece of land. Before you say "you need to get lucky with worldgen to have 3 celestial fissures on a side island" you can just use one of the main island's borders with docks and stand on another of the islands. Disclaimer: This is a test world. I have been using my design since CC came out, and I honestly haven't used it in a year, so I couldn't remember how I used to aggro phase 1... so i just killed him manually, but i know there was a way, I just couldn't be bothered to keep trying. You can skip to 3:18 if you want to. Observe however, as phase 2 and phase 3 do absolutely nothing because, as I've said, they target you, and not the houndious, based on distance, because they work like catapults and/or walter slingshot. You can do this with just one houndious. A catapult won't work because it doesn't have enough range, and IIRC, it gets focused by CC because it'll be too close to him. EDIT: As you can see at 5:30, you need the houndious to target each phase again, just like AFW's houndious cheese, where you need to wait a second to telepoof out of the arena for the houndious to engage, so it is technically not a 100% AFK farm, but yknow, if you don't move from there CC won't target you or the houndious so you're still safe. 2023-02-08 21-22-47.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prettynuggets Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 On 2/5/2023 at 7:02 PM, Peyo33 said: This "farm" worked only because you have that land formation that trap the CC. Not everybody can have that and if you place the shootius in the land or boat they'll die easily. they use dock lol i bet u didnt see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonz Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 9:51 PM, Eughstein said: ahh yes easy strategy that every dst player can repeat Only 30 fuelweaver and ancient guardian kills, no biggie. Can be done before winter in pubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrocator Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 100% confirmed works every time 30% Permanent speed boost cheese. Details in video: [So as you can see I covered the whole map in cobblestone] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetulantPansy Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Wow this setup is genius. can you show us a way to afk/low-effort collect the 3 statics needed to get each fight going. k thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigelemann Posted February 10, 2023 Author Share Posted February 10, 2023 On 2/9/2023 at 3:00 AM, Juanasdf said: What I said was that CC would not do anything standing in a set distance if you were on another piece of land. you can just use one of the main island's borders with docks and stand on another of the islands. Psss “If some part of the aircraft arrived intact, then this part cannot fly damaged” (about Survivorship bias) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanasdf Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 33 minutes ago, Pigelemann said: Psss Why are you going back near CC phase 3 at 0:50 is the question. If you stand behind the houndious he won't do anything, they'll still attack him, and he won't move as I showed lol. That's why I posted my video, you don't need 50 houndious to cheese CC, only 1, minus phase 1 because it runs around, but it's the easiest phase to kite. EDIT: If you're worried that CC can one shot your houndious due to this bug, you can just use one as I said, BUT CC phase 3 will prioritize spawning pillars, which AFAIK can't land on the other side of the water AND shouldn't be able to do as much damage as the lasers, giving you more than enough time to run away from it after the houndious aggro onto it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigelemann Posted February 10, 2023 Author Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Juanasdf said: BUT CC phase 3 will prioritize spawning pillars Ahhh, yes. Pillars. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanasdf Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, Pigelemann said: Ahhh, yes. Pillars. Lol Sorry my mistake, what i meant was that as soon as phase 3 starts he will spawn pillars, giving you time to back away from him. As for the hounds, that's just unlucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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