LitulLola Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 I was so excited about Wendy's new skin, thought it was going to be up there as one of her best. I was heartbroken when I loaded in-game and she's just white. Isn't there a way to make her blue hair which to me is the more prominent feature that would really make this skin stand out, show up? Maybe add a more noticeable blue/gray for her face art too. I'd also like Abby's flower to be that same striking blue so she's not all white too? Maybe I'm just being too critical, I don't mean to but I think skin's could translate in-game better for some truly epic skin's Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/144011-wendys-moonbound/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 What do you mean by "white"? Do you mean washed out? That's due to the colorcubes. You'd be better off roaming in other seasons and getting a feel for it. Maybe consider disabling them if you're playing on PC! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/144011-wendys-moonbound/#findComment-1604320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Princess Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 As was mentioned before, try to pay attention to this skin during different seasons, with different-colored light and during different phases of day-night cycle and nightmare cycle. In the images below compare color of hairs and flower since I use other torso item. During daytime for all 4 seasons without any additional light: Spoiler Autumn: Winter: Spring: Summer: As you can see, only in summer hairs seem to be decolored; it's because summer has yellow filter, and this particular variation seems to be complementory color for color of Wendy's hair (i.e. mix of them gives white color). 2nd closest to this is spring but hairs seem to be blue for me despite that. With additional light source (during autumn dusk, glowcap has 4 blue spores): Spoiler In the ruins (glowcap has 1 enlightened shard with spore of corresponding color or without it): Spoiler White light, calm phase: Blue light, calm phase: Any light, warn/dawn phase: Glowcap nearby has 1 blue-colored enlightened shard, just like in previous image; also 2 backpacks here are actually of red and marine color, but they look nearly identical due to filter as you can see here (and the only difference between them is one of them looking a bit lighter). That same setup during nightmare phase: Pay attention how much different backpacks look now. Since nightmare phase applies red filter, Wendy's hair is mostly unaffected. Same setup, but with white light: there is hardly any difference because nightmare phase filter outshines color of glowcap light. And just because why not, same setup but with red light: As one can see, red light affects white parts in different way than blue parts, so difference is even more clear. Just remember that autumn has red filter, winter - blue, spring - green, summer - yellow; for white and blue parts to look different you don't want to be in light of complementory color; nightmare phase brightens red things, calm phase - blue, warn/dawn decolors things; filter of nightmare phase cycle seems to have priority over color of nearby light sources, and seasonal filter on surface seems to behave similarly as well. And if you go 4 blue spores during calm or 4 red during nightmare, color of your clothes wouldn't matter anymore. Spoiler Edit: since default dress of Wendy in that skin has pale purple color, I expect red and blue filters make difference between hairs and dress bigger, and yellow/orange (and to lesser extent green) filter making difference less noticeble. I myself don't have moonbound dress, but anyone else who has it can check. Bonus: Spoiler Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/144011-wendys-moonbound/#findComment-1604331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LitulLola Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 17 hours ago, -Variant said: Snip This makes me feel so much better! I don't have color cubes (on console) so I'm not sure why she was totally white for me (spring) but I can totally live with seeing some blue in other seasons! Thank you both! 15 hours ago, Pig Princess said: Snip Hide contents Hide contents Hide contents Hide contents Hide contents Thank you so much for doing the work to explain this! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/144011-wendys-moonbound/#findComment-1604417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornete Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, LitulLola said: I don't have color cubes (on console) I don't think you understood. 'Color cubes' is just a fancy name for color filter. Every part of this game has a color filter, in all the day phases and seasons and unique biomes and sanity modes. There isn't any way to 'disable' a colour cube. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/144011-wendys-moonbound/#findComment-1604419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LitulLola Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 44 minutes ago, Hornete said: I don't think you understood. 'Color cubes' is just a fancy name for color filter. Every part of this game has a color filter, in all the day phases and seasons and unique biomes and sanity modes. There isn't any way to 'disable' a colour cube. I thought he was talking about the mod called color cubes, some PC gamers run it on their game. It changes how the color filters work in the diff seasons. Since he was talking about disabling it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/144011-wendys-moonbound/#findComment-1604420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 4 hours ago, LitulLola said: I thought he was talking about the mod called color cubes Nah, Hornet was right. I wasn't talking about the mod, I did mean the usual color filters the game normally applies. Color Cubes comes from my days of working with the Source Engine and I slip up sometimes when talking about other games. Oops. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/144011-wendys-moonbound/#findComment-1604439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Princess Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 21 hours ago, LitulLola said: I'm not sure why she was totally white for me (spring) Could it be because you had other yellow/orange filters applied? Meanwhile you see colors in my post normally, right? I thought for a while about why this could be the case. Initially I thought about 3 possible sources of orange/yellow light that are not related to DST: "night mode" applied to monitor screen, degradation of monitor screen and color of light in your room. On PC there is setting for monitor called "night mode" that applies filter of pale red/orange color during night hours if enabled; but this is PC setting and you are on console, and since I'm not sure if console or monitor itself can have this functionality, I ruled out this version for now. My next guess is monitor degradation, which apparently happens if monitor is made with oled technology and shows bright static picture for long time; it can degrade partially, and since the most used pixels degrade first one usually can see "phantom" of this picture if picture changes. As far as I know, home screen on monitor connected to console can be bright static picture, which is why you can run experiment to check this version: compare picture on your monitor that should be pure white with list of paper of pure white color. If you see difference, then monitor degradation is responsible for this effect, most likely. And I'm not sure if light in your room is of yellow/orange color and if it even can affect picture on monitor that much, but it's a possibility I can't rule out. One more thing makes me think about version No 2. I see you can't quote properly, which is not the case on PC version of Klei forums, but mobile version has issues (from my own experience). Plus you mentioned being console player, so I guess you browse forum from mobile phone. If my guess is correct, you could see skin from mobile phone (with normal colors), buy it and load in game, and then see different color palette in-game because of monitor issues. Alternatively, you could still see somewhat normal colors in main menu, but once loaded in-game during spring, green filter - that was unable to decolor skin alone - in combination with extra yellow from degraded monitor could be responsible for white moonbound dress and significantly decolored hair. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/144011-wendys-moonbound/#findComment-1604486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer PeterA Posted October 24, 2022 Developer Share Posted October 24, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 2:02 PM, -Variant said: Color Cubes comes from my days of working with the Source Engine and I slip up sometimes when talking about other games. Oops. It's all good. We do have colour cubes in our engine. It's just a way of mapping colours to another. Instead of a complex calculation in the pixel shader, it's a simple texture lookup. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/144011-wendys-moonbound/#findComment-1604523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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