Pearl QOL Ideas

[Malfario]

My main suggestion is to change the requirement of cactus flowers to upgrade pearls house, her fav food and add some more quests and trades, the reasons behind this are the following:

Make it so Celestial Champion is not capped behind the first summer (He is enough of a challenge and requires intese preparation, there is no need to be time gated).

The other is a little more complex, pearl is a very interesting concept, she already serves to get some of the best fishing gear on the game but i think she has potential to be better. Instead of flower salad i think a better option could be have a fig recepy as her favourite food, and same for her house, the last upgrade could use figs instead of flowers. This way people would acknowledge the existence of the waterloged biomes.

Pearl could serve as a very light tutorial for ocean content and maybe as ocean content releases we could get more tasks and trades for pearl: Growing a giant tree to give her a shadow to rest in summer, give her a captain hat from the monkey island (like when you give your grandma a souvenir from a travel) etc.

There are also a lot of things pearl could sell that could be unlocked with this new tasks:

-A way to force malbatoss spawn (a bait for example that istantly summons it on shoals )

-A way to create sea rocks (to place barnacles whenever we want and actually be worth the set up)

-A way to sculpt statues on sea rocks

-More kinds of boats (a cargo boat with integreated chest for example)

-Statue´s sketch of ocean content

-an improved pinch and winch that could be carried as a back pack (you stay still when you use it and move the claw around you)

-decoration for giant tress like pendant lamps

-New plants or trees that grow on water

I believe this is enough to show the potential of granny lobster

[abrocator]

Off topic but are all changes “QoL” now?

 

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Instead of flower salad i think a better option could be have a fig recepy as her favourite food, and same for her house, the last upgrade could use figs instead of flowers.

Good idea! That would fix that Summer problem.

[Capybara007]

a better option would be to make ck give tribute always and only put extra loot like a blueprint if you do it pearled

[MatthewLovesYou]

I don't believe they'll ever change that. Klei's favourite game mechanic for some reason is waiting and I don't think they are changing that any time soon, still, great idea. Somebody could make a mod about this

[Lokoluna]

Just mod the game mods are just QoL anyway

[Malfario]

4 hours ago, abrocator said:

Off topic but are all changes “QoL” now?

Honestly i couldnt come up with a better title, i choosed QOL because "Ways i think Pearl could be Improved" sounded to wordy for me, besides all the changes i mentioned go around make the content that is already in the game better, so QOL seemed fitting enough

[MA7xGE]

I. Need. This.

[SomebodyRandom]

5 hours ago, Malfario said:

• -A way to force malbatoss spawn (a bait for example that istantly summons it on shoals )
• -A way to create sea rocks (to place barnacles whenever we want and actually be worth the set up)
• -A way to sculpt statues on sea rocks

Particularly a fan of these ideas, specially Malbatross forced spawn.

5 hours ago, Malfario said:

• -A way to create sea rocks (to place barnacles whenever we want and actually be worth the set up)
• -A way to sculpt statues on sea rocks
• -Statue´s sketch of ocean content
• -decoration for giant tress like pendant lamps
• -New plants or trees that grow on water

Would be really cool to have these for building on the ocean.

[Gashzer]

Whats the problem with the celestial champion being locked behind first summer??

There are plenty of other bosses to fight and stuff to do, to stay busy until then... even if you could rush it, its a fairly lengthy quest and might take you until summer to fight CC anyway.

Plus many other boss drops like bone helm + weather pain help alot during the CC fight, might as well kill AF + Moose first while you wait.

[Dextops]

48 minutes ago, Gashzer said:

Whats the problem with the celestial champion being locked behind first summer??

because there's no point of it being like that. It's a small simple mechanic that locks the entire thing behind a big wall for no reason. You can get everything else done fast but whoops now you have to wait for a single drop to happen so you can progress. I don't see why they can't just add another way to get cactus flower so this entire thing is over with.

[Gashzer]

6 hours ago, Dextops said:

because there's no point of it being like that. It's a small simple mechanic that locks the entire thing behind a big wall for no reason. You can get everything else done fast but whoops now you have to wait for a single drop to happen so you can progress. I don't see why they can't just add another way to get cactus flower so this entire thing is over with.

Shorten the seasons length in options or use c_spawn... you already have fixes to your problem. Cactus blooming in summer has been a thing for forever, makes no sense to obtain cactus flowers any other way now. 

[Pig Princess]

10 hours ago, Gashzer said:

Whats the problem with the celestial champion being locked behind first summer??

I, for example, would rather fight Crab King in the 1st spring with morning star/voltgoat jelly and do archives at the beginning of summer than vice versa in case I'm planning to kill CK around the end of 1st year. Another fighting option would be to use regular bees for CK in angry mode and then retrieve altar in summer when they are normal (kiting them within small boat can be troublesome and I don't want to be forced using panflute) before CK respawns.

In general the way I do this rush leads to me spending significant part of spring at sea, and significant part of summer on land, so current situation is very inconvenient in that regard (forces me to run back and forth).

Another reason to fight CK in spring is due to how insulation works: in summer player would take more freezing damage from CK and polar lights (and winter insulation doesn't help with that) compared to spring + winter insulation + star caller situation.

So Pearls's house upgrade requirement not only locks CC behind summer, but restricts order of doing parts of the questline if one tries to kill CC as soon as possible. And I like getting celestial crown in lights out world as soon as possible, it's fun to me (and in regular world too).

[Gashzer]

52 minutes ago, Pig Princess said:

I, for example, would rather fight Crab King in the 1st spring with morning star/voltgoat jelly and do archives at the beginning of summer than vice versa in case I'm planning to kill CK around the end of 1st year. Another fighting option would be to use regular bees for CK in angry mode and then retrieve altar in summer when they are normal (kiting them within small boat can be troublesome and I don't want to be forced using panflute) before CK respawns.

In general the way I do this rush leads to me spending significant part of spring at sea, and significant part of summer on land, so current situation is very inconvenient in that regard (forces me to run back and forth).

Another reason to fight CK in spring is due to how insulation works: in summer player would take more freezing damage from CK and polar lights (and winter insulation doesn't help with that) compared to spring + winter insulation + star caller situation.

So Pearls's house upgrade requirement not only locks CC behind summer, but restricts order of doing parts of the questline if one tries to kill CC as soon as possible. And I like getting celestial crown in lights out world as soon as possible, it's fun to me (and in regular world too).

Ah i see we approach CK differently, i do the archives stuff first then during late summer or early second autumn, i use bunnymen to kill pearled CK. They eat through his health in no time, with me just killing claws and freezing CK as support. Mobs attacking CK seems not to trigger freeze spell?? Atleast with 9 bunnymen he doesn't use freeze spell once. Bit weird but its good for me lol.

Ahh dunno if its a big enough Qol problem for klei to address tbh... its a very niche issue for only people looking to rush CC and only CC.

Im not against getting cactus flowers outta summer... just dont see it happening tho. 

 

[Dextops]

5 hours ago, Gashzer said:

Shorten the seasons length in options or use c_spawn... you already have fixes to your problem. Cactus blooming in summer has been a thing for forever, makes no sense to obtain cactus flowers any other way now. 

Yes my fixes are either cheating or altering the world in a dramatic way. Tell me why exactly can’t cactus flower be changed? Saying it’s been around too long is stupid when you have the character reworks and rwys existing. Anything is subject to change and this is one of those things because it makes no sense to hold a quest dead in its tracks because the game wanted to do the best game design idea since the birth of creation. Waiting.

[Gashzer]

55 minutes ago, Dextops said:

Yes my fixes are either cheating or altering the world in a dramatic way. Tell me why exactly can’t cactus flower be changed? Saying it’s been around too long is stupid when you have the character reworks and rwys existing. Anything is subject to change and this is one of those things because it makes no sense to hold a quest dead in its tracks because the game wanted to do the best game design idea since the birth of creation. Waiting.

You are taking away stuff that makes summer more unique or special... 

Fine if you get cactus flowers outside of summer, i want mactusks to spawn outside of winter, i also want birchnut trees to drop 2 birchnuts in all seasons and the oasis desert should have a duststorm in all seasons cause it makes for a pretty cool looking unique biome!

Why lock anything to seasons at all?

Why lock shadows pieces behind the new moon, i dont wanna wait for a new moon anytime i want to fight them! Screw the lore! Cause its boring time-gating stuff.............. 

 

[Bellium]

22 hours ago, Malfario said:

Make it so Celestial Champion is not capped behind the first summer (... there is no need to be time gated).

For all the complaining people on these fourms seem to do about their being no end game content, doing thing like rushing the ruins before the first winter even hits, is it that bad that there's a difficult, lengthy quest in this game that actually requires you to live in a world for a little while? There's so many things to do in this game and so much to explore than some kind of natural pacing to progression sounds very good and healthy to me. And if doing crab king so early is important to any potential run options exist for begining the game in later seasons. I agree with a lot of this post in how pearl could maybe be updated to incorperate some newer ocean content but I feel like the time gateing of her pearl is fine as it is.

[Dextops]

3 hours ago, Gashzer said:

You are taking away stuff that makes summer more unique or special... 

Fine if you get cactus flowers outside of summer, i want mactusks to spawn outside of winter, i also want birchnut trees to drop 2 birchnuts in all seasons and the oasis desert should have a duststorm in all seasons cause it makes for a pretty cool looking unique biome!

Why lock anything to seasons at all?

Why lock shadows pieces behind the new moon, i dont wanna wait for a new moon anytime i want to fight them! Screw the lore! Cause its boring time-gating stuff.............. 

 

All of your examples make no sense. There are other ways to fix it like removing it as a requirement from pearls house. Also the difference with mactusk and birch nuts is that they aren’t locking a boss from a large time window. Plus your shadow pieces argument can be circumvented by doing them day one. But for some reason celestial champion is locked behind it in a not fun way not lore relevant way which doesn’t have any content for the quest in between to fill in dead time.

[moongloms]

Pearl is the worst thing about the champion quest line  klei does a good job about fixing her house  and the drying racks / bee boxes  those are part of the original way klei designed  the game  which was  gently  nudging players to do things  and having that experimentation. 

The rest of pearls happiness  can be incomplete  for all she provides 

 Its all fetch quests  and it's rather poorly made