ethannnnnnn Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 So I know mods are kinda taboo here, but I love quality of life mods. I was browsing the workshop recently, and came across this Maxwell rework mod. Typically I don't touch character/character rework mods because they're either extremely overpowered or underpowered. But this mod is amazing. I think it's almost a perfect rework for Maxwell. It establishes a clear gameplay loop, solid downsides that are FUN, and a unique playstyle that contributes something mostly unique. The thing I think this mod does especially well is change the sanity dynamic. It doesn't change anything fundamental to the sanity system, but it actually makes sanity management engaging, rewarding, and challenging. I'm not entirely sure on Klei's stance on adopting mods into their core game, but I know some communities benefit from this immensely, like Project Zomboid for example. Normally I'd be against it since there are so so so many trash mods on the workshop, but this is very quality, and I think this has potential to be the best character refresh if it could actually come to fruition. But of course everyone has different preferences, so this is just my opinion. I implore you all to try the mod, or at least check out the mod page. Overall, it provides a fresh, fun, challenging, and engaging experience for Maxwell that is the antithesis of his gameplay currently. Here's the mod I should note that this is not my mod, and I am in no way affiliated with it. I just haven't been this impressed with the quality of a mod in awhile so I've felt inspired to share it and (low chance) maybe even shine some light on it for Klei. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140447-what-do-you-think-of-this-maxwell-rework/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
grm9 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Haven't tried the mod in actual gameplay, but description seems good. The only thing is that, unlike all other reworks & characters (except Warly, Wormwood, Wurt and Wes), downsides were given, especially 75% damage is pretty bad because unlike, as example, Wendy attacking along with Abigail, you can't do anything about it. Adding 20% or 25% more damage when using dark sword would be fine to compensate tho, after all it's a shadow weapon. Codex umbra losing durability is annoying, but not that bad I guess. Also, your link to the mod seems to be broken, I guess you meant the https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2809332721 mod? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140447-what-do-you-think-of-this-maxwell-rework/#findComment-1572713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Rts Maxwell Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140447-what-do-you-think-of-this-maxwell-rework/#findComment-1572722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamboyant wolf Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 wow, this is really great, i like it! just like i would imagine Maxwell to be. it makes him very unique. you weren't kidding when you said that it's amazing. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140447-what-do-you-think-of-this-maxwell-rework/#findComment-1572757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethannnnnnn Posted May 24, 2022 Author Share Posted May 24, 2022 14 hours ago, grumm9690 said: Haven't tried the mod in actual gameplay, but description seems good. The only thing is that, unlike all other reworks & characters (except Warly, Wormwood, Wurt and Wes), downsides were given, especially 75% damage is pretty bad because unlike, as example, Wendy attacking along with Abigail, you can't do anything about it. Adding 20% or 25% more damage when using dark sword would be fine to compensate tho, after all it's a shadow weapon. Codex umbra losing durability is annoying, but not that bad I guess. Also, your link to the mod seems to be broken, I guess you meant the https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2809332721 mod? 75% damage reduction encourages you to use minions or ride beefalo. The book losing durability means getting nightmare fuel is a bit more challenging. Plus, he gets 2x damage toward nightmare creatures, so his physical damage penalty isn't too bad. Though as a boss fighter, he probably does lack a bit of power. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140447-what-do-you-think-of-this-maxwell-rework/#findComment-1572869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ornge Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 I don't understand why you would EVER give a character less damage as a downside in the game where every boss is on health steroids. Everything takes so long to kill and it gets boring Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140447-what-do-you-think-of-this-maxwell-rework/#findComment-1572915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curly Bill Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 the backpack one was very very nice and has been requested something like that exist for a little bit, as the gathering part is a big complaint i've heard from players after spending so long chopping and digging. i definitely enjoy the aspect of leaving behind the shadow puppets. it's like a really fun part of the Gorge, and makes it feel more engaging to be able to multitask rather than just standing and watching, which the players i'm with usually perfer to do rather than joining in the chopping/digging/mining. really hope we get aspects of this mod. the codex being a magic research station maxwell can use to have early access to shadow magic is really great too. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140447-what-do-you-think-of-this-maxwell-rework/#findComment-1572922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAshvinn001 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Ornge said: I don't understand why you would EVER give a character less damage as a downside in the game where every boss is on health steroids. Everything takes so long to kill and it gets boring Its meant to incentivize sentry puppets. Im playing it and its fun. Then again I love pain so yeah Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140447-what-do-you-think-of-this-maxwell-rework/#findComment-1572923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aofshovels Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Looks like an interesting mod. May have to try it. Thanks for sharing Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140447-what-do-you-think-of-this-maxwell-rework/#findComment-1572924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karitha Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 It's a good mod I would see something more like the one @Serpens made. Here is it, also IDK if it's still working, I played with it about months ago. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140447-what-do-you-think-of-this-maxwell-rework/#findComment-1572930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serpens Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Hi, thanks for mentioning my maxwell shadows mod @Karitha Of course it still work fine (if I don't update a mod anymore or there are known problems, I usually write this at the top of description or into a discussion) I read the description of the mod from the first post.This mod has more changes to maxwell himself (like magic), than my mod (mine does only add settings to existing values). The idea to directly tell the shadows what they should do is very very good. But except for this one feature I would say that my improvements for shadows are better, this is of course my personal taste. For a short overview you can see the GIFs on my modpage or read the description. I always think that modders should share ideas and code, to get the best mod in the result (of course crediting each other). But of couse it is also fine if the users have options between different mods. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140447-what-do-you-think-of-this-maxwell-rework/#findComment-1573065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAshvinn001 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Played with it more I LOVE IT! I thought it was good but its really good! The animations are really nice and really well done! The Codex has become a mid game early game best friend and of course... We have backpack shadows! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/140447-what-do-you-think-of-this-maxwell-rework/#findComment-1573106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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