SinancoTheBest Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Experiencing the new "Freezing-over means charge loss" downside in action, I was astonished how one Klaus deer freeze immediately depletes all charges. I think that should be tuned down a bit, however situational it might be. After all, the circuits, especially the stat ones are specifically designed to tackle different situations; what use are they if they can be immediately nullified by what they are supposed to be good against. Freezing over only causing one or two circuits to disable rather than all of them could be a better arrangement but I suggest a minor perk from Refrigerant Circuit to entirely prevent freezing over (but not suffering cold damage); the reason why I suggest refrigerant over thermal is that thermal is already very strong against all challenges of winter so rather than making a circuit that's already expected of you to wear in winter to counter more seasonal bosses of that season, adding that perk to a circuit that otherwise isn't much useful that season could be a nice addition. It'd also give WX a unique advantage against the current state of Crab king, but as I said it wouldn't be overpowered imo since you'd still be suffering the coldness damage and come prepared for that. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139582-can-either-thermal-or-refrigerant-circuit-adjusted-to-prevent-freezing-up/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Face Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Excellent, knowing this convinced me that Wx doesn't need any more downsides, case closed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139582-can-either-thermal-or-refrigerant-circuit-adjusted-to-prevent-freezing-up/#findComment-1562632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarki Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 I feel this "discharge on freeze" thingy should be removed entirely. New rain is more than enough. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139582-can-either-thermal-or-refrigerant-circuit-adjusted-to-prevent-freezing-up/#findComment-1562743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Nick- Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Yeah the Thermal circuit should slow or stop the discharge rate when freezing. The Klaus spell issue should be fixed aswell. It's nice having another downside that isnt spring specific. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139582-can-either-thermal-or-refrigerant-circuit-adjusted-to-prevent-freezing-up/#findComment-1562756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 43 minutes ago, Nickolai said: Yeah the Thermal circuit should slow or stop the discharge rate when freezing. The Klaus spell issue should be fixed aswell. It's nice having another downside that isnt spring specific. It also rains in autumn (and I think sometimes in winter in the caves). There are also a few ways to get wet other than rain such as mistiming your rowing. Regardless of that though I do agree that this is a good and interesting downside. Does he also lose charge for combusting? I hope he does. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139582-can-either-thermal-or-refrigerant-circuit-adjusted-to-prevent-freezing-up/#findComment-1562763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Nick- Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, Cheggf said: It also rains in autumn (and I think sometimes in winter in the caves). There are also a few ways to get wet other than rain such as mistiming your rowing. Regardless of that though I do agree that this is a good and interesting downside. Does he also lose charge for combusting? I hope he does. Yeah I know there are other ways to get wet, I meant that spring is mostly the common and dangerous way to. Mostly the other sources are easily avoidable, or doesn't effect the downside as much. (Minus winter caves, but thats pretty much spring down there anyways.) Sadly overheating does not effect charges. It would be nice if it did. Maybe when you start to take overheating damage you only then lose charges slowly. Maybe -1 charge every 10 seconds. Since overheating is a bit harder to avoid compared to freezing. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139582-can-either-thermal-or-refrigerant-circuit-adjusted-to-prevent-freezing-up/#findComment-1562764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 You know.. I actually think the refrigerant circuit should give WX just a tiny bit of Wetness/Freezing protection.. It won’t fully prevent the downsides but.. it would be a nice way to slow it down that makes sense. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139582-can-either-thermal-or-refrigerant-circuit-adjusted-to-prevent-freezing-up/#findComment-1562918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALCRD Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 18 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: You know.. I actually think the refrigerant circuit should give WX just a tiny bit of Wetness/Freezing protection.. It won’t fully prevent the downsides but.. it would be a nice way to slow it down that makes sense. About wetness. Your wetness gets fully removed when it reaches 100% while you have the Refrigerant circuit on. It's a very niche use to water baloon yourself to remove wetness and get free ice without any damage to circuit charge but imo its fine as it is. For actual wet protection thats what rain gear is for. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139582-can-either-thermal-or-refrigerant-circuit-adjusted-to-prevent-freezing-up/#findComment-1562922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 13 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: You know.. I actually think the refrigerant circuit should give WX just a tiny bit of Wetness/Freezing protection.. It won’t fully prevent the downsides but.. it would be a nice way to slow it down that makes sense. I don't think they should give protection against water but I think if it doesn't already the thermal circuit should dry you faster if you're at 100% wetness resistance, like a fire. It spoils your food and that wouldn't really be an amazing upside so I think it's a balanced idea. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139582-can-either-thermal-or-refrigerant-circuit-adjusted-to-prevent-freezing-up/#findComment-1563093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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