oregu Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 general watering can -> summer Items - it can be used to put out fires or make diggable plants not withered anymore torch/lighter -> winter items - creates exposed fires (a burning tree for instance) that make more heat cheaper and effectively gunpowder -> refined materials beefalo grooming station -> beefalo Taming remove astral detector from light sources - it's like listing the flingo as a light source. doesn't emit big light or moveable. is there something i don't know? insulated pack -> cooking - it's a chef pouch upgrade remove waterballoon from weapons - i don't exactly know the purpose behind this one unless you're talking pvp against wx?... but even then it's not the most useful weapon. if it does have a use let me know. batbat -> healing scaled turf -> summer items - prevents smoldering in summer some 'manmade' turfs could be moved to structures (road, scaled flooring, etc.) they have other uses than decoration. structures tab less cluttered somehow (this is just what i would do) remove stuff with no collision (except lunar ones) friendly scarecrow -> decorations or food/gardening remove magic structures (except prototyping ones) character specific winona's catapult -> weapon anything that needs a magic station to prototype should be magic (ex. Walter/Wicker items) thanks much. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138435-beta-suggestion-item-categorization/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartzBeam Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, oregu said: remove astral detector from light sources - it's like listing the flingo as a light source. doesn't emit big light or moveable. is there something i don't know? Your subjective opinion that the Astral Detector's light is not useful does not constitute a reason to remove an item that emits light from the Light filter. 1 hour ago, oregu said: insulated pack -> cooking - it's a chef pouch upgrade Hmm, are the Ice Box and Salt Box in the Cooking tab too? 1 hour ago, oregu said: remove waterballoon from weapons - i don't exactly know the purpose behind this one unless you're talking pvp against wx?... but even then it's not the most useful weapon. if it does have a use let me know. It is technically useful for canceling Dragonfly's rage, but I don't think many people use it, as the Panflute has it beaten. It should probably be in the Summer Items filter though, if it's not already. 1 hour ago, oregu said: scaled turf -> summer/winter items - creates warmth in winter It most certainly does not. 1 hour ago, oregu said: some 'manmade' turfs could be moved to structures (road, scaled flooring, etc.) they have other uses than decoration. This applies to the suggestion after this one, but I think you are misinterpreting the Structures filter. Unlike the Structures tab we had before, the Structures filter is meant to consist of things that are, well, structures. Literally. Removing structures from the filter and adding non-structures on some arbitrary criteria makes no sense. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138435-beta-suggestion-item-categorization/#findComment-1550616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oregu Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, QuartzBeam said: Your subjective opinion that the Astral Detector's light is not useful does not constitute a reason to remove an item that emits light from the Light filter. This applies to the suggestion after this one, but I think you are misinterpreting the Structures filter. Unlike the Structures tab we had before, the Structures filter is meant to consist of things that are, well, structures. Literally. Removing structures from the filter and adding non-structures on some arbitrary criteria makes no sense. i think you missed the point of the 'suggestion' in the title, nothing here is concrete. i'd love to know who finds the astral detector to to be useful in the light tab for non-arbitrary reasons, then. i wanted a good explanation, not that 'my opinion is subjective thus invalid'. as for the scaled flooring providing heat, my memory is fuzzy on it. i was just going off what i heard. i'd need more information about the scaled flooring code to know for sure. i'll just remove that for now. sorry, but structures tab didnt make sense in your logic beforehand, the dictionary definition of a structure is the arrangement and interrelationship of parts in a construction, such as a building. it includes the ground. structures dont only refer to structures at whole, but also its parts. sorry if thats a bit confusing. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138435-beta-suggestion-item-categorization/#findComment-1550626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodyRandom Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 4 hours ago, oregu said: beefalo grooming station -> beefalo Taming Klei doesn't want to add items that can only be crafted near crafting stations into other filters. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138435-beta-suggestion-item-categorization/#findComment-1550639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallychina Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 3 hours ago, QuartzBeam said: It is technically useful for canceling Dragonfly's rage, but I don't think many people use it, as the Panflute has it beaten. It should probably be in the Summer Items filter though, if it's not already its also a debuff weapon, it can make dfly wet and you beat it with a morning star or use goat jelly on it. i think the only other mob that gets wet is crab but im not sure Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138435-beta-suggestion-item-categorization/#findComment-1550653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinancoTheBest Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, SomebodyRandom said: Klei doesn't want to add items that can only be crafted near crafting stations into other filters. Beefalo Shrine is one thing but the grooming station has been a prototypeable structure on the structures tab for about a year now. I still think One Man Band should be added to the farming filter too and ocuvigil should be removed from tools. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138435-beta-suggestion-item-categorization/#findComment-1550654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodyRandom Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 22 minutes ago, SinancoTheBest said: Beefalo Shrine is one thing but the grooming station has been a prototypeable structure on the structures tab for about a year now. My bad, didn't realize. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138435-beta-suggestion-item-categorization/#findComment-1550656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oregu Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 3 hours ago, SinancoTheBest said: Beefalo Shrine is one thing but the grooming station has been a prototypeable structure on the structures tab for about a year now. I still think One Man Band should be added to the farming filter too and ocuvigil should be removed from tools. Hm... yeah makes sense but that would mean you'd need to put panflute under farming as well... even if it's not the best. 3 hours ago, reallychina said: its also a debuff weapon, it can make dfly wet and you beat it with a morning star or use goat jelly on it. i think the only other mob that gets wet is crab but im not sure i thought about that, but it's just other players and dragonfly. if pvp strats were considered for the fight filter it would also need a lot of other items... kind of needless. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138435-beta-suggestion-item-categorization/#findComment-1550702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassielu Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Also, I think shrines, mad science lab and winter feast oven should be added to the prototype and craft stations Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138435-beta-suggestion-item-categorization/#findComment-1550771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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