DST should be free

[ArubaroBeefalo]

1 hour ago, Masked Koopa said:

Given how much of the content is realistically gated in terms of cosmetics + the 4 playable characters you'd have to save up for a looooong time to get without paying, I don't think it's an unreasonable take. While I'm not sure where I stand on it myself, I don't think it's anywhere near as unreasonable as many replies are making it out to be. It's not even a leading poll, or being expressed in a vitriolic way. 

To stay on topic, I think the main thing here is being acceptable now vs what was acceptable in the past. For many people, myself included, microtransactions in a paid game is a very iffy thing. DLCs (i.e substantial new content) have often skirted the line, but I cannot deny that the prices you pay for what are essentially just PNGs in most cases are not exactly fair. While one is by no means forced to engage in the skins side of the game, it also cannot be denied that collection and visual customization are also parts of a game people enjoy, and not as different to direct gameplay effects as many would argue. 

However, it cannot be denied that the mainstream games industry has moved more and more toward trying to push such a thing as being acceptable. Whether or not one accepts that narrative comes down to a myriad of things like opinion, but also background in which games they originally played.
 

And that isn't to say you have to agree with OP either, everyone is going to have their own threshold of acceptability when it comes to such things. 

for 15€ (or 5€ in sales) you get a game that, just to experience most of the content, a experience player will need arround 100 days which is arround 13h but for being able to beat the game in 13h you will need hundreds, if not thousands for those who doesnt like spoilers or hand holding guides, to learn it plus the possibility of experience this content with other characters. Also learning the game means that your way of playing and experience the game will be different since dst/ds arent lineal games, a 10h player wont play the same as a 500h player and this one wont play the same as a 1000h player, the 1st one will experince the survival aspect by diying from starvation, freeze, etc while the 500h player will be focused on surviving while beating some bosses after preparing a lot and maybe some base building (which, as many other sand box games, adds tons of hours of fun) and the +1000h player will do high risk high reward strategies, beat multiple bosses in one session, telepuff arround and waste expesive magic materials in a way that the 500h player wont be able which changes a lot the gameplay experience. 

15€ for a game that has that many included content isnt something to complain about when there are 60€ games with way less quality and that offers less hours of fun and 15€ for ~38 skins as some bundles have, characters that cost 6€ with some skins included or character skins for 2€ arent expensive considering that games like league of legends has skins that cost arround 20€ and 50€ or that there are games which content is cut and you need to pay arround 20€ more

is true that dst has a monetization similar to the sims and other games with cosmetic dlcs which makes the sand box experience richer by paying but also dst isnt nearly as abusive as those games when you constanly get free skins by login, playing and "watching" streams and less taking in count that the game is constanly getting free updates so you paid for a smaller game back in the day but every month has more content that you arent paying

[Cannoli]

11 hours ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

some people should think a little before calling others "not smart" for suggesting...

Oh yeah, one more of the chapter: "nobody thinks in this forum, just me"

By the way, the idea is the opposite of smart.

[Lord Cafe]

On 3/12/2022 at 1:38 PM, Bugsworth said:

DST should be a free to play game as it collects data and has in game purchases. Both things that should only be in a free to play game. I think that it's pretty unfair for you to get payed to sell data ngl. Also unfair to have to pay for items in game. 

This topic is totally click bait but i'll answer anyways, the game is only 15U$ this is my Country is almost like one week work is a lot of money but since steam don't force me to pay in dollar i can buy for a "cheap" price, i guess most people  which have their wage on dollars can literraly pay 15U$ without even thinking since most workers get 6-12 by hour so it's preety cheap for such amazing game and almost all the content on the game can be unlocked just playing.

I've more skins by playing the game than buying from sales, i already go two times, rare skins that used to worth more than 50U$ so DST is far beyond from being a "unfair" and  "pay to unlock"  game. 

Cheers.

[Masked Koopa]

1 hour ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

for 15€ (or 5€ in sales) you get a game that, just to experience most of the content, a experience player will need arround 100 days which is arround 13h but for being able to beat the game in 13h you will need hundreds, if not thousands for those who doesnt like spoilers or hand holding guides, to learn it plus the possibility of experience this content with other characters. Also learning the game means that your way of playing and experience the game will be different since dst/ds arent lineal games, a 10h player wont play the same as a 500h player and this one wont play the same as a 1000h player, the 1st one will experince the survival aspect by diying from starvation, freeze, etc while the 500h player will be focused on surviving while beating some bosses after preparing a lot and maybe some base building (which, as many other sand box games, adds tons of hours of fun) and the +1000h player will do high risk high reward strategies, beat multiple bosses in one session, telepuff arround and waste expesive magic materials in a way that the 500h player wont be able which changes a lot the gameplay experience. 

15€ for a game that has that many included content isnt something to complain about when there are 60€ games with way less quality and that offers less hours of fun and 15€ for ~38 skins as some bundles have, characters that cost 6€ with some skins included or character skins for 2€ arent expensive considering that games like league of legends has skins that cost arround 20€ and 50€ or that there are games which content is cut and you need to pay arround 20€ more

is true that dst has a monetization similar to the sims and other games with cosmetic dlcs which makes the sand box experience richer by paying but also dst isnt nearly as abusive as those games when you constanly get free skins by login, playing and "watching" streams and less taking in count that the game is constanly getting free updates so you paid for a smaller game back in the day but every month has more content that you arent paying

I mean it's a matter of perspective for sure, I'm just saying I don't think the perspective being shared by OP is anywhere near as unreasonable as replies are making it out to be.

[Falkenpelz]

1 hour ago, Cheggf said:

There are several characters you can purchase.

I somehow forgot about that lol. Still the game offers you a chance to get even them for free. And at least I don't feel like the DLC characters give you a sort of p2w advantage, although they do offer a different playstyle of course.

[Cheggf]

1 hour ago, Falkenpelz said:

Still the game offers you a chance to get even them for free.

This defense is used for just about every single p2w game. "Just because this character is way overtuned and gonna be nerfed in 4 months doesn't mean it's pay to win! Just play 8 hours a day for 7 months and you can get them for free!" is repeated so many times in p2w game communities. 

1 hour ago, Falkenpelz said:

And at least I don't feel like the DLC characters give you a sort of p2w advantage,

Wanda is the best lategame char, Wurt has several unique things only she can do, Wormwood is one of the best characters in the game (also with several unique things), and the chest & bundling wrap skins offer clear advantages.

It's not the type of game I'd go around complaining about how p2w it is, but you can pay for advantages so it is. Way on one side of the p2w spectrum far away from things like dbd or bdo but still on it.

[Cap0319]

This game is already really cheap when compared to other titles and it constant-ly goes on sale.