JohnFrancis Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Link to results, might take me a bit of time to get them all in their. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CHKRwjLfPsOZq2nVFGFoz5EgUvO64qqeYOAFnueeJxo/edit?usp=sharing While trying to build a new PC I ran into a problem, what is the best things to focus on to get the best performance out of ONI. Some say single core performance, RAM speed, Clock Latencies even the occasional high speed Hard Drive claim. So to help try and resolve this I am trying to get some benchmarks together. Of course their is no perfect way to test this and it will be inaccurate but hopefully we can get an idea of where the general bottleneck lies. This will take a bit of effort so I'm not sure how many people are interested in giving it a go but if we can get even a few maybe we can figure out what is more important for playing ONI. How to run the benchmark Disable all your mods first, they might affect game performance Download the benchmark save (Linked) and copy it to your save game folder https://oxygennotincluded.fandom.com/wiki/Save_file_locations Restart your PC, please note a "restart" is different from a shutdown. After restart only open ONI as we don't want any other programs interfering (If you have some programs that auto start that is fine) The benchmark is simple, run the save game at max speed. Shortly after start (20-30 seconds) an alarm should pause the game automatically(Timer doing it should be centre screen when you load up). When it does we are ready to start. Unpause the game and start a stopwatch, the in game timer with go off again after 300 in game seconds, when it does stop the stop watch. Note the resulting time. Few notes, you can open the in game timer (it's centre screen hooked up to an alarm) so you know when the pause is coming. Don't move the camera or check out other planets before running the test, that may load things or increase resource usage and skew the results. Also the reason we don't use FPS is because it's not locked to the performance of the game as in how long it takes for dupes to build or do things in game. What we are interested in is how many cycles we can get done in as short an amount of time as possible. Please format the results as below, you can get the first three pieces of information from Task manager, the bottom two CAS and HDD are harder pieces of info to find so if you can't get them don't worry about it. Time : 2:11 or 131 seconds CPU : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700K CPU @ 3.70GHz Graphics card : RTX 2060 RAM : 16 GB DDR4 3000 MHz CAS : 15,17,17,35 HDD : MX500 500 GB CT500MX500SSD1 Blank template you can copy and paste Time : CPU : Graphics card : RAM : CAS : HDD : BenchMarkTesting.sav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 17 minutes ago, JohnFrancis said: Some say single core performance, RAM speed, Clock Latencies even the occasional high speed Hard Drive claim. its not only this this or this. they all together matters for performance. and yes even a motherboard . some people just talk about some specific like CPU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 hour ago, gabberworld said: some people just talk about some specific like CPU CPUs can also cause jitter. Intel CPUs generally jitter a lot more than AMD (due to badly implemented task-switching by Intel), so they need higher FPS for a smooth experience. Jitter is very unpleasant to humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Gurgel said: CPUs can also cause jitter. Intel CPUs generally jitter a lot more than AMD (due to badly implemented task-switching by Intel), so they need higher FPS for a smooth experience. Jitter is very unpleasant to humans. and still latest intel cpu is not bad at all. they even beat amd single core performance. amd only plus is that it have smaller cpu what allows have more cores. and thats is all. but if app is not designed to run in multi cores then in cant pump out maximum anyway from amd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuiPalhas Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 3 hours ago, JohnFrancis said: The benchmark is simple, run the save game at max speed. Shortly after start (20-30 seconds) an alarm should pause the game automatically(Timer doing it should be centre screen when you load up). When it does we are ready to start. Unpause the game and start a stopwatch, the in game timer with go off again after 300 in game seconds, when it does stop the stop watch. Note the resulting time. Here are my results: Time : 3:24.47 (204 seconds) CPU : Intel Core i9 9980XE Graphics card : GeForce RTX 2080 Ti RAM : 128 GB DDR4 2666 MHz CAS : 16-18-18-35 HDD : 2x WD 4 TB Black (4005FZWX) (configured as Raid 0) I noticed quite a lot of lag/jitter while running the benchmark though it didn't seem to affect the in-game timer that much as I timed it a second time (just unpaused after the timer had gone off after the 300s) and the result was basically the same (3:24.51) but it appeared to be less laggy/jittery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonbt Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Hey! 1:53.65 (113 seconds) CPU: 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11700k @ 3.60GHz GPU: Nvidia 3080ti RAM: 32GB @ 3600MHz CAS: 16-18-18-36 HDD: WD Black SN850 1TB NVMe I ran the test three times and results were all within 1 second of the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnFrancis Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, RuiPalhas said: Here are my results: Time : 3:24.47 (204 seconds) CPU : Intel Core i9 9980XE Graphics card : GeForce RTX 2080 Ti RAM : 128 GB DDR4 2666 MHz CAS : 16-18-18-35 HDD : 2x WD 4 TB Black (4005FZWX) (configured as Raid 0) I noticed quite a lot of lag/jitter while running the benchmark though it didn't seem to affect the in-game timer that much as I timed it a second time (just unpaused after the timer had gone off after the 300s) and the result was basically the same (3:24.51) but it appeared to be less laggy/jittery. I am shocked by that result, the i9 9980XE is more of a workstation CPU but still I though it would be much closer to my results. It took your system 55% longer to do 300 in game seconds. Only thing I can see that might be hurting your times is the spindle drives, that is the only explanation I can think off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smstrm Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Time : 2:26:71 CPU : AMD Ryzen 7 3700X @4GHz Graphics card : RTX 2060 RAM : 32GB @ 3200 MHz CAS : 16/18/18/36 HDD : WD 1048 maybe my HDD is an issue, because i run oni from an USB device :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mix5003 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Time : 02:07.85 (127.85 seconds) CPU : Intel Core i9-10900 @ 2.80GHz Graphics card : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 RAM : 64 GB DDR4 2667 MHz CAS : 16/18/18/36 HDD : 1TB NVMe SSD + 6 TB (4 HDD RAID 5) (but game installed at NVMe only) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, JohnFrancis said: I am shocked by that result, the i9 9980XE is more of a workstation CPU but still I though it would be much closer to my results. It took your system 55% longer to do 300 in game seconds. Only thing I can see that might be hurting your times is the spindle drives, that is the only explanation I can think off. DDR4 2666 MHz, your memory is like 400 mhz faster its very big number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muraj Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Noticed a major 3-5 second hitch that seemed to pause the in-game timer and did not seem like the cycle auto-save about 75s in-game time, but was pretty smooth otherwise. Time : 2:37 or 157 seconds CPU : AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT 12-Core Processor Graphics card : ASUS TUF Gaming RTX 3070 RAM : G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Intel XMP 2.0 Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C18D-64GTZR CAS : 18-22-22-42 HDD : Force Corsair MP300 1TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoonWasTaken Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Time : 2:03.82(123 seconds) CPU : Ryzen 9 5950x Graphics card : RTX 3090 RAM : 2x 32GB 3600 MHz CAS : 16/17/17/36 HDD : 1tb NVME SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelplanet5 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 I didnt do a restart before as i just wanted to have this done quickly so the time could maybe be a little better with a restart but realistically my CPU was at 20% load at most and the GPU was at 15% load while the game was running at 4k. The game seems to be heavily CPU limited. Time : 113 CPU : 5800X Graphics card : 6900XT RAM : 3600mhz CAS : no idea right now but got XMP enable HDD : 7200 RPM HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zalmaniac Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Time : 2:10 CPU : Ryzen 9 5900X Graphics card : GTX 780 RAM : 2x16GB DDR4 3200Mhz CAS : HDD : WD Black SN750 1TB M.2 I have an RTX 3060 TI being delivered in a day or 2 so I can post an update then to see if it makes a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehaunted318 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Time : 2:01 or 121seconds CPU : i7 8700k Graphics card : Radeon VII RAM : 32GB @ 3000mhz CAS : 14-14-14-34 HDD : Samsung 970 Evo NVME Compared to the other results here, mine aren't that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raukgorth Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Time : 02:14.58 CPU : i7 8700k (no OC) Graphics card : RTX 3080 RAM : 64 GB DDR4 3200 Mhz (4x16) CAS : 14/14/14/34 HDD: NVMe Samsung 256 GB (no restart, Firefox and Citrix Workspace open) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orzelek Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Also a bit lazy mode (no restart and browser open). Did 2 runs results were within a second. Time : 1:54 (114s) CPU : Ryzen 5800X Graphics card : RX 5700XT RAM : 3200 16GB (might be low on ram a bit loaded game eats lots of it) CAS : 14/14/14/34 HDD : SSD EVO 970 Plus For those not adding CAS please grab Cpu-z and it will show those for you. You can also check this way if you have XMP actually enabled or you bought fast RAM and it's not using correct timings (difference can be significant). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theheadtwo Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Time : 1min 56.26 seconds (116.26 seconds) CPU : Ryzen 9 5950x watercooled custom loop, precision boost overdrive enabled Graphics card : Nvidia 3090 founders watercooled custom loop, msi afterburner auto overclocked RAM : G.Skill Trident Z Neo Series 32GB 3600mhz CAS : CL16-19-19-39 HDD : Samsung 970 EVO 2tb NVME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxydiser Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Hi! This is an intresting topic to start my journey on KLEI forums. Time : ~120 seconds CPU : Ryzen 5900X Graphics card : RTX 3090 (ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 3090 Trinity to be exact) RAM : 32GB 3200 CAS : 16-18-18-36 HDD : Seagate Firecuda 520SSD (1TB, R/W up to 5GB/4,4GB/sec) Ive tested this save 5x times and 120 sec (2 min 5 sec, 2 min 1 sec, 1 min 55 sec, 1 min 57 sec, 2 min 2 sec) is the middle ground. Altough ive found sth else as well intresting. My PC did use a couple of cores for this game but mostly was lying dormant. Same as GPU. Almost nothing was happening. I belive engine opt is best solution in this case. Ive attached my Task Manager windows for both just after the test was done (Sorry for polish lang, thats how I've got my Win set up :c ). I hope that will help you to choose a good sweet spot for your needs. (5900x+ 3080 should work great! ) Any more q just ask. EDIT: Forgot to mention. Both GPU and CPU are watercooled in custom loop with 360mm radiatior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smyger Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Restarted before benchmarking Time : 2:19 CPU : AMD Ryzen 3700X Graphics card : RTX 2070 RAM : 16 GB DDR4 3200Mhz (2x8) CAS : 16,18,18,36 HDD : Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comfix Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Time : 2:37 or 157 seconds CPU : AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor Graphics card : AMD RX6900XT RAM : 32GB CL16 3200MHz CAS : 16-18-18-36 HDD : Corsair MX500 1TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.stitek Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 TIme: 1:52 (112 seconds) CPU: i7-10700K @5.0GHz Allcore GPU: GTX 1060 6GB (running at 1440p) RAM : 64GB (4*16) DDR4 3800MHz CAS: 17-22-22-42 SSD: Seagate Firecuda 510 2TB M2, NVMe I ran multiple tests, all were within 1 second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theich Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Time : 111 CPU : Ryzen 7 5800X Graphics card : AMD 6900XT (not a custom card) RAM : 32GB 3600MHz CAS : CL16-19-19-39 (G.Skill RipJaws V / F4-3600C16D-32GVKC) HDD : System: SanDisk Extreme Pro 500GB [NVMe] / ONI: SanDisk 2TB [S-ATA] (SDSSDH32000G) MB: Gigabyte Aorus Pro V2 PowerSupply: 750W be quiet Dark Power 12 80+ Titanium Cooler: (takeover of old pc) Aplenföhn Brocken 2 PCGH edition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rashnar Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Time : 1:50 (110 seconds) CPU : Ryzen 7 5800x@4.6ghz Graphics card : GTX 1080ti RAM : 32GB 3600mhz CAS : 22/22/22/42 HDD : WDS500G2B0B cooler noctua nh-u12s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhtux Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 after I downloaded and tried to load the save.. i realized I dont have the DLC version of ONI. I also game on Linux and not windows... that might be faster or slower.. bought the DLC.. curiosity got me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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