Is it tier list saturday?

[HowlVoid]

I wanted to post my tier list. Its based on solo play and mostly geared towards someone that hits the ruins first and then focuses on fighting bosses (basically how my runs go).

Those that are on S tier don't need the ruins (mostly Wolfgang and Warly) and can focus elsewhere. I consider damage perks to be the best perks in the game due to saving time and resources on bosses. Boss loot itself goes a long way to saving you time such as the furnace saving on log consumption.

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Drawbacks or lack of, usually don't impact my game at all. Except for Wortox who has to eat meaty stew and sanity management can be a pain early game. Once you get a tam it gets significantly easier but sanity is still important where most characters can disregard it completely. Nightmare fuel is only good if you have enough living logs and makes boss fights risky. 

In order to not have to factor in too many scenerios we will assume the only bosses to fight are Ancient Guardian, Dragonfly, Bee queen, Klaus, Deerclops, Moose/Goose, Shadow Chess Pieces, Ant lion, and Fuelweaver all in year 1. As well as how powerful they become entering year 2. 

Late bloomers start out slow but pick significantly later on. If this wasn't tied to year one some would be higher like Wx-78. The placing on each tier does not matter as that can change due to rng. 

Rng also places a Significant role. The higher the character is on a tier the more they can shrug off bad luck. For example, a very lucky Wx-78 with ruins loot could outpace Wurt. On console ruins can be very small, my most recent ruins had 2 pseudoscience stations and one was destroyed by a rook.

Warly is funny because he cant be hit with too much bad luck, but at the same time, "normal" and above runs go sooooooo well. Getting that lunar island before day 15 and starting a Chaud-froid auto farm is *Cheff kiss*.

Wes can be fast at gathering resources but also needs more resources. More sanity for more speedy balloons, more food goes stale due to lower stats, crawling horrors need an extra hit and terrorbeaks need 2 extra hits making going insane/in the ruins take extra time. Need more fresh Hambat early due to lower damage.

The further you go down the list the less it matters. Once you go below tier A they all do about the same with good rng.

Walter can cheese fuelweaver, but so can everyone else with a houndious shootius. He just does it faster :P .

Let me know if I can improve my runs with strats I may be unaware of. 

[Dextops]

i am so conflicted on this tier list because it feels and seems right but there is something about it that is so wrong but i idk. b+ tier list for the brain aneurysm 

[Tuesday Pidgeon]

Character ratings aside, this tier list is a lot more thought out that many that I've seen, even at a first glance. I don't have much to say character ratings-wise, I don't have too much experience with them all to make that much of a judgement. But at least I can confirm that Wendy's placement is pretty accurate

[HowlVoid]

1 hour ago, Dextops said:

i am so conflicted on this tier list because it feels and seems right but there is something about it that is so wrong but i idk. b+ tier list for the brain aneurysm 

Well Wurt is still in the middle so she still has resistance to rng. The biggest factor is how fast can you get to the swamp. How the map is generated is really important to Wurt since longer travel time means more food for your workers. This can place a strain on your resources but at the same time all you need are seeds and houses are cheap. 

Wurt's perks can create a conflict of interest. Do you rush the ruins and get good loot but fall behind creating merms. Or do you focus on merms and try locating the lunar island and rely even more on luck. 

Her biggest downfall is that once you head underground your hold on the world is reset. Though she will have tons of resources from above ground. I usually prefer the lunar island since stone bushes and kelp means less farming. I like that wurt pull me away from the usual hambat + football helmet, instead using wood armor and tentacle spike early. 

[BeeClops]

I'd put Walter Wicker and Winona higher, maybe Wig lower, but it's probably one of the tier lists I am at most peace with. For Walter early game, he can easily have 30+ dark swords, night armors and nightmare fuel for years by day 41 with the shadow pieces boat strat and his slingshot, I think that's a big deal early on. And if you're not getting hit he's good, just requires constant focus which can be annoying. 

And yes, it was tier list Saturday

[ArubaroBeefalo]

Im tired of seeing weeber in a low tier...

He can have the easy and higher dps agaisnt non aoe enemies and bosses (beequeen, ancient guardian, dragonfly, etc), he can plant nest arround all the ruins so the spiders clean all for him, one of the easier food farmers, etc

He is a totally balanced and useful character but people put it in the bottom just because op characters exist. If wendy is op doesnt mean that he automaticaly becomes useless or unable to be played

 

[Krewnathan]

14 hours ago, HowlVoid said:

mostly geared towards someone that hits the ruins first and then focuses on fighting bosses

if you hit the ruins first, before other things, why is wx so low? having early 400 health is already great, not only that but if youre planning on clearing the ruins you can also do that with quite ease, and if you think that eating gears is bad because gears are rare items remember that the ruins get renewed once you kill ancient fuelweaver and activate the gate, besides there is only like 3 crafts that need gears and you can find even more on tumbleweeds, all im saying is wx should be higher on the list

[ArubaroBeefalo]

14 minutes ago, Dirk Peixes said:

if you hit the ruins first, before other things, why is wx so low? having early 400 health is already great, not only that but if youre planning on clearing the ruins you can also do that with quite ease, and if you think that eating gears is bad because gears are rare items remember that the ruins get renewed once you kill ancient fuelweaver and activate the gate, besides there is only like 3 crafts that need gears and you can find even more on tumbleweeds, all im saying is wx should be higher on the list

but if someone is experience enough to dont die with 150hp then having the perk of eating gears to get stupid stats is useless and boring

stats and getting speed boost are the only wx's perks which arent that good compared to the other players

is op in terms of surviving? yes, is it useful when you know how to survive? not at all

[HowlVoid]

17 minutes ago, Dirk Peixes said:

if you hit the ruins first, before other things, why is wx so low? having early 400 health is already great, not only that but if youre planning on clearing the ruins you can also do that with quite ease, and if you think that eating gears is bad because gears are rare items remember that the ruins get renewed once you kill ancient fuelweaver and activate the gate, besides there is only like 3 crafts that need gears and you can find even more on tumbleweeds, all im saying is wx should be higher on the list

As @ArubaroBeefalo says the stat increases are mostly useless to me. Also, as I stated with good rng he does get boosted in the tierlist. One of the things I hate about tier lists is that they seem static and its hard to show that that is mostly not the case. His speed boost is great early game but it gets harder and harder to maintain throughout the early game.

He also lacks gathering perks and wastes time collecting resources throughout the year, such as, food, armor, etc.

5 hours ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

Im tired of seeing weeber in a low tier...

He can have the easy and higher dps agaisnt non aoe enemies and bosses (beequeen, ancient guardian, dragonfly, etc), he can plant nest arround all the ruins so the spiders clean all for him, one of the easier food farmers, etc

He is a totally balanced and useful character but people put it in the bottom just because op characters exist. If wendy is op doesnt mean that he automaticaly becomes useless or unable to be played

 

Correct. Webber is not useless, based on the parameters I set in place all this tier list is meant to showcase is that he would be a bit slower than other characters. As I wrote in my description once you get bellow A tier the characters are a lot closer in time.

With good RNG webber gets a boost in the maze, but this is usually a minor boost. He also has an easy time collecting healing items but I don't usually take too much damage against bosses. It comes in handy against bee queen. 

[Captain_Rage]

This one wins the most zoomed out tierlist award.

[Krewnathan]

11 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

is op in terms of surviving? yes, is it useful when you know how to survive? not at all

 

7 minutes ago, HowlVoid said:

He also lacks gathering perks and wastes time collecting resources throughout the year, such as, food, armor, etc.

Makes sense, Wx has always been like an entry level for cave rushing since the gears heal and all, but now that you mention it they do start to lack on other senses, and sidenote getting overcharged consistently in solo is a pain LMAO

 

[HowlVoid]

6 hours ago, BeeClops said:

I'd put Walter Wicker and Winona higher, maybe Wig lower, but it's probably one of the tier lists I am at most peace with. For Walter early game, he can easily have 30+ dark swords, night armors and nightmare fuel for years by day 41 with the shadow pieces boat strat and his slingshot, I think that's a big deal early on. And if you're not getting hit he's good, just requires constant focus which can be annoying. 

And yes, it was tier list Saturday

Walter is probably the character I have the least amount of experience out of the whole roster. I can not express how much stress this character causes me. I am not at god level kiting for this character to be easy for me. Beequeen is especially frustrating. This character requires multiple visits to the desert, both deserts even, hope you have good map rng. I may have been a bit harsh him on this tierlist though but I just don't like the character lol.

Wigfrid is most certainly S tier, her life leech song alone is god tier. 

Winona and Wicker's placed "structures" take a hint in being unmovable where as Wurt can move merms. Wurts merms also dont stop there and are great harvesters. Winona's catapults are also expensive early game. Both Winona and Wicker lack perks to make their crafts easier to come by. 

1 hour ago, Captain_Rage said:

This one wins the most zoomed out tierlist award.

Sorry about that lol. It was in case people only clicked on the tier list and completely disregarded my explanations.