I made thulecite crowns (almost) obsolete using math

[ArubaroBeefalo]

4 hours ago, Psychomaniac said:

it has to be better.

i dont think so

[Psychomaniac]

2 hours ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

i dont think so

What?! You said that yourself earlier or am i miss reading something?!

7 hours ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

the crown is better

 

[Primalflower]

12 hours ago, BeeClops said:

kiting is a waste of time in the mid-late game

doing anything short of harvesting bee boxes 24/7 is a waste of time 

[ArubaroBeefalo]

42 minutes ago, Psychomaniac said:

What?! You said that yourself earlier or am i miss reading something?!

 

Soz i understood that the crown need to be better, buffed

[Toroic]

While I applaud OP’s effort into making calculations, they’re a good example of how quantitative analysis can be misleading.

Yes, you could use more lower-tier armor but to effectively declare something obselete you’d need to consider

1) Accomplishing the same tasks

2) Alternative ways to use those resources

For me, the fact that crowns are the best head armor (plus the invulnerability bubble) gives them a strong niche as an endgame head armor, which is preferable to body armor due to magi in the chest slot.

Thule is relatively abundant compared to the number of rare gems you’d want to make into staves, and crowns are a good choice to use red gems on.

[ArubaroBeefalo]

24 minutes ago, Toros said:

crowns are a good choice to use red gems on.

They have a red gem in their model but not in the recipe 

[Mahoood]

On 12/27/2020 at 10:55 AM, W0l0l0 said:

You could always be a hipster and use Shelmets.

(Damn I wish you could get them easier  ) 

Whip em

[me real life]

19 hours ago, BeeClops said:

kiting is a waste of time in the mid-late game

This is such a weird take, I can't imagine stopping kiting entirely just because you can afford to craft better armor.

Plus like, if kiting is a waste of time, wouldn't getting the healing to refill the health loss from fights also be a waste of time? And wouldn't doing any of those fights in the first place be a waste of time, because you could spending it harvesting bee boxes for food? And wouldn't making those bee boxes be a waste of time when you could be permanently wandering around surviving off of butterflies and seeds and carrots and berries? How exactly do you define "wasting time" in a sandbox game?

[gaymime]

2 hours ago, Mahoood said:

Whip em

whip 'em good, pachaw?

[Toroic]

3 hours ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

They have a red gem in their model but not in the recipe 

I stand corrected!

[BeeClops]

3 hours ago, Sunset Skye said:

This is such a weird take, I can't imagine stopping kiting entirely just because you can afford to craft better armor.

Plus like, if kiting is a waste of time, wouldn't getting the healing to refill the health loss from fights also be a waste of time? And wouldn't doing any of those fights in the first place be a waste of time, because you could spending it harvesting bee boxes for food? And wouldn't making those bee boxes be a waste of time when you could be permanently wandering around surviving off of butterflies and seeds and carrots and berries? How exactly do you define "wasting time" in a sandbox game?

it's just worst in terms of time effectiveness. If you have 2 bone armors all surface bosses except klaus can be tanked with full invincibility by using a few nightmare fuel. Add a thelu crown in case something ever goes wrong and you'd need minimal healing, easily covered by jellybeans. For your example, having beeboxes will be a lot more time-effective than hunting butterflies every day, despite the obvious initial time investment.

I think we are all trying to be somewhat efficient here to an extent. What's the purpose of the game in the long-run, other than be more efficient for efficiency's sake? For me after a certain point i just want to build and expand my projects, and i want to do those things with minimal distractions. I'd rather spend 30 seconds killing klaus for the 80th time than spend 3 minutes doing it; those add up.

time waste is defined by what you prioritize and care about, sure, but some bosses require you to kill them every year, or at least give you a worth it reward if you do so. So it's something most of the playerpool spends time with every year, i'm saying i'd rather spend less time with it; tanking is clearly better once it does not require more preparation than kiting.