Craigjw Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Some of the logic gates, were redesigned a while ago. The new graphics for some of these aren't very good IMO. I refer namely to the AND/OR & NOT gates. The AND/OR gates used to be easily differentiated by their symbol, now they have no symbol, just some indistinguishable graphic. The NOT gate, has a line between the output & input, when designing a circuit, this line looks just like a wire, making it difficult to tell if there is a wire behind this or not. Here is an example, which gate have I connected incorrectly? You really have to zoom in and look closely to work out which one is wrong. It's worse if you are building tiles also. While the shape of the NOT gate is useful, the bar between inputs is very unhelpful. Please fix these awful graphics for the logic gates, they are much less easy to use. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121721-logic-gates-new-design-is-it-terrible/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 I am impressed by what they tried to do, but the electronics community has solved this problem and it has invested far more time and needs their symbols to work. Hence Klei did not really stand a chance here. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121721-logic-gates-new-design-is-it-terrible/#findComment-1371337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoakenashi Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 I definitely enjoy what Klei did, these feel much more appropriate for the environment and feel of the game. I see their change to the logic gates as following the change they made to the water storage asset. Originally it was too plain and simple, and felt out of place. The bar down the middle of the NOT gate has tricked me in the past, and would appreciate a change to this. Maybe replace with a yin-yang. This aligns to how the red/green signals are opposite, but still interconnected. What still makes me stop and think is the Filter and Buffer. In my line of work, we call these On Delay and Off Delay. But I like the names Klei uses and cannot wait time see the new assets they produce for the Filter and Buffer. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121721-logic-gates-new-design-is-it-terrible/#findComment-1371342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Well, I do agree that the new gates are more ONI-like. Since the complexity you can realistically handle is pretty limited anyways, the symbols are not that critical. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121721-logic-gates-new-design-is-it-terrible/#findComment-1371374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimsontide Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Someone will recreate the 8080 in oni at some point. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/121721-logic-gates-new-design-is-it-terrible/#findComment-1372367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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