fragtzack Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Getting back into the game again.. Seems the consensus is that germy H20 is pointless to clean with chlorine or other methods because sinks using germy water does not negatively affect dups? How about buildings where the dups actually drink the water : Water Cooler, Expresso, Juicer, Soda Fountain ? Does anyone else think that sinks and showers (and the buildings where the dups drink) should pass germs to dups? The lack of germs being passed to dups through sinks/showers seems like a design flaw. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116335-germy-water/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexicube Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1911357229 This mod may interest you. Diseases also used to be worse than they are now, with Slimelung previously being lethal but now being relegated to a mere cough. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116335-germy-water/#findComment-1314597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pether Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I'd love to see KLEI doing something to make hospitals usefull again! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116335-germy-water/#findComment-1314599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I find that sterilizing pwater with food poisoning before filtering it is quite useful, as otherwise dupes get contaminated all the time when moving polluted dirt from the filter to the compost. With sterile pwater the polluted dirt is sterile as well. On the other hand, food poisoning is not much of a problem now and easily cured. So it is more of an aestetic issue, really. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116335-germy-water/#findComment-1314644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Slimelung infected O2 pumped into exosuit docks won't infect the dupes who wear them food for thought... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116335-germy-water/#findComment-1314679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 20 hours ago, Neotuck said: Slimelung infected O2 pumped into exosuit docks won't infect the dupes who wear them food for thought... Hmm. Have you tried pumping in PO2 directly? After all it is breathable... Even if not, that would finally be a use for that PO2 vent with some purifiers. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116335-germy-water/#findComment-1314865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 43 minutes ago, Gurgel said: Hmm. Have you tried pumping in PO2 directly? After all it is breathable... Even if not, that would finally be a use for that PO2 vent with some purifiers. the docks take wrong element damage Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116335-germy-water/#findComment-1314872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Neotuck said: the docks take wrong element damage A pity. Thanks anyways. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116335-germy-water/#findComment-1314873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 On 3/11/2020 at 11:05 AM, fragtzack said: sinks using germy water does not negatively affect dups? Does anyone else think that sinks and showers (and the buildings where the dups drink) should pass germs to dups? The lack of germs being passed to dups through sinks/showers seems like a design flaw. If I go camping and I use lake water to shower and wash my hands, I will not get sick, even though there are germs in the water. However, if I drink that water, I will. So no, I do not think that it is a "design flaw" that germs aren't passed on to dupes by sinks and showers. On 3/11/2020 at 11:05 AM, fragtzack said: How about buildings where the dups actually drink the water : Water Cooler, Expresso, Juicer, Soda Fountain ? In these cases, yes, dupes should get infected by the germs, for the same reason I posed above. Food poisoning is only an issue if you ingest it, not if you touch it. I'm somewhat on the line about buildings like the Electric Grill, since cooking food should remove any germ contamination. I can use lake water for cooking when I'm camping, provided I let it boil for 10 minutes first. On 3/11/2020 at 11:05 AM, fragtzack said: Seems the consensus is that germy H20 is pointless to clean with chlorine or other methods There really is no consensus. It comes down to what you're wanting to do with your water. If you're sending it to the electrolyzers to turn into oxygen and hydrogen, or you're sending it to sinks and showers, then there's no point in removing the germs because they'll never be ingested by your dupes. On the other hand, if you're wanting to use the water for drinking or cooking, then you certainly do want to remove the germs. Another item to consider is what you're doing with the polluted dirt that gets dropped by the water sieve. If you're sending it to the compost pile to get turned into regular dirt, then you may want to decontaminate the polluted water first -- otherwise the dirt could get used in cooking and get your dupes sick. Also, if your dupes do not wash their hands after handling food poisoning items, and then eat, then they will get sick. A while back there was a player who posted on the forums about his dupes always getting sick even though he kept his food in chlorine. The problem wasn't the food -- the problem was his closed-loop bathrooms were producing food-poisoning infected polluted dirt that was getting handled by the dupes. They weren't washing their hands after handling it and before eating, and it was making them get sick. In my particular bases, I usually don't bother cleaning the germs out of polluted water. I do, however, make sure my dupes don't ingest food poisoning germs. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116335-germy-water/#findComment-1314999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve8 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 I like to disinfect my water precisely so I don't have to worry about what I'm going to use it for. Or where the PW comes from. I can dump any water I sweep up into the disinfection room. Most of the time it will have been germ free, but sometimes it may also have been from a pee accident. And the water can be used for anything. Is it absolutely necessary? No. But I don't like min/maxing in games anyways. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116335-germy-water/#findComment-1315165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 8 hours ago, Steve8 said: Is it absolutely necessary? No. But I don't like min/maxing in games anyways. Same here. "Best builds" are boring, whether in an MMO, in ONI or in other games. The fun is in trying things out and developing your own style. And while it sometimes may not seem like it, ONI has a lot of redundancy and you do not need to optimize very strongly. It is far more important to have a handle on what is happening and to react to a potential crisis early. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/116335-germy-water/#findComment-1315297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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