Nebbie Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Seriously, how is Ari able to reach this to build? He's going through a layer of abyssalite. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/110968-i-get-diagonal-access-but-can-anyone-explain-this-one/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallichydra Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 next tier of diagonal access. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/110968-i-get-diagonal-access-but-can-anyone-explain-this-one/#findComment-1249763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakomaru Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 My guess is that the access region for the door is not rotated, so it overlaps with the top layer. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/110968-i-get-diagonal-access-but-can-anyone-explain-this-one/#findComment-1249764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathmanican Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, Nebbie said: Seriously, how is Ari able to reach this to build? They can build horizontal doors through one tile of anything. Try it in other places in your base. It's been going on for quite a while. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/110968-i-get-diagonal-access-but-can-anyone-explain-this-one/#findComment-1249765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorsDux Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 This is a nice bit or information. Does it work with mini pumps too? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/110968-i-get-diagonal-access-but-can-anyone-explain-this-one/#findComment-1249771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathmanican Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, MorsDux said: Does it work with mini pumps too Let us know after you try. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/110968-i-get-diagonal-access-but-can-anyone-explain-this-one/#findComment-1249774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorsDux Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 22 minutes ago, mathmanican said: Let us know after you try. Or maybe someone will know without trying! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/110968-i-get-diagonal-access-but-can-anyone-explain-this-one/#findComment-1249781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathmanican Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Well, today I decided to find out which buildings this works with. This isn't an exhaustive list, but here is quite a few: The conveyor loader works just like the mini pumps, namely three of the 4 orientations allow building through tiles, any of the rotated versions (but not the default orientation). I've filed a bug report. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/110968-i-get-diagonal-access-but-can-anyone-explain-this-one/#findComment-1251483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakomaru Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Thank you for proving the hypothesis. : ) Bunker doors might be really weird. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/110968-i-get-diagonal-access-but-can-anyone-explain-this-one/#findComment-1251544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebbie Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share Posted August 29, 2019 53 minutes ago, nakomaru said: Thank you for proving the hypothesis. : ) Bunker doors might be really weird. Can you rotate bunker doors? If so, then since they default to horizontal, you can probably build them rotated through three tiles from the right. Hmm...not quite, but close: Spoiler Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/110968-i-get-diagonal-access-but-can-anyone-explain-this-one/#findComment-1251558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathmanican Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, Nebbie said: Hmm...not quite, but close: Love it!! Not useful for building through solids, but perfect for long distance blocking off of water. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/110968-i-get-diagonal-access-but-can-anyone-explain-this-one/#findComment-1251559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebbie Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share Posted August 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, mathmanican said: Love it!! The best part is, since they'd need to dig, they can deliver the steel, but not actually build! Certainly is a way to transfer your steel across two tiles by delivering then canceling if you for some reason need to do that. And as expected, it buries in the location the game considers the "central" tile of the building (which is likely what's responsible for this to begin with, I should do more testing on positioning), so all 500kg is in that one spot (it's cold cause I spawned it at 100K): Spoiler So let's do a little more testing: Spoiler It looks like my "central tile" idea is correct. Put simply, the tile that for this orientation is 2nd from top is the center of the bunker door, and the game considers it buildable if the building in the default rotation with the central tile in the same place (it basically doesn't know we rotated it) would have any of its 4 tiles reachable by dupes. I'll illustrate this by showing planned constructions that are in the normal rotation (first focusing on buildables, then showing some nonbuildables that clash): Spoiler Spoiler Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/110968-i-get-diagonal-access-but-can-anyone-explain-this-one/#findComment-1251562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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