Musicbox Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Title is clickbait. If that's forbidden please let me just change the title, don't delete post. That being said, I have a couple of questions and topics. 1. Short one: I don't think a wire just sticking out of a circuit but carrying no power towards anything should overload. 2. What is DTU? I get that it's an unit made exclusively to be implemented in the game but can I know what DTU initials stand for and what is the real life correspondent? 3. Awesome game; I'm addicted. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/110751-i-have-a-couple-of-questions-and-topics/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirrelTeeth Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Power circuits are kinda weird that way; if any element is connected to an overloaded circuit, it can overload randomly (at least I think that's how it works). And I think DTU stands for Duplicant Thermal Unit. It's like the British Thermal Unit, but for dupes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/110751-i-have-a-couple-of-questions-and-topics/#findComment-1247705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharraShimada Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1. You may build a 100 kilometer long wire and connect nothing to it. As long as this power-line is overloaded in any way, every single tile of wire can be damaged at random. It has absolutely nothing to to, where the consumer is located. Wires, unlike pipes, are not tile to tile based, but uses as a whole circuit. So, if your wire breaks, there is just overload, but not at the specific point. The next time, it may be the same tile, or another, or some on the other end of your wire-setup. 2. stated above 3. sorry, cant help you there ^^ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/110751-i-have-a-couple-of-questions-and-topics/#findComment-1247741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicbox Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 On 8/20/2019 at 11:51 PM, SharraShimada said: 1. You may build a 100 kilometer long wire and connect nothing to it. As long as this power-line is overloaded in any way, every single tile of wire can be damaged at random. It has absolutely nothing to to, where the consumer is located. Wires, unlike pipes, are not tile to tile based, but uses as a whole circuit. So, if your wire breaks, there is just overload, but not at the specific point. The next time, it may be the same tile, or another, or some on the other end of your wire-setup. thanks. well, that may be true for the game but in reality you can connect an insulated wire to all the power in the world, if it has nothing to discharge into on the other side, it's just going to stay that way. or so I believe, I don't have a degree in physics. if you had a 100 kilometer wire it would be fine until you connected it on the other side, at which point it would start to heat up, when an electric current would start circulating through it but as long as there's nothing on the other END* (I edited here cause I wrote on the other "hand" initially), the wire is inert. anybody correct me if im wrong Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/110751-i-have-a-couple-of-questions-and-topics/#findComment-1249162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONIfreak Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 22 minutes ago, Musicbox said: thanks. well, that may be true for the game but in reality you can connect an insulated wire to all the power in the world, if it has nothing to discharge into on the other side, it's just going to stay that way. or so I believe, I don't have a degree in physics. if you had a 100 kilometer wire it would be fine until you connected it on the other side, at which point it would start to heat up, when an electric current would start circulating through it but as long as there's nothing on the other hand, the wire is inert. anybody correct me if im wrong True. But not in ONI. Those wires works when they are white or yellow. Red means is not connected to power source. Wire can break in any place. It will break when active (in use) consumers will overload it. Idle consumers do not do damage. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/110751-i-have-a-couple-of-questions-and-topics/#findComment-1249174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Wires in the game don`t consider which way the power is moving. The system just checks if the power consumers don`t take too much power, if they do the circuit will get damaged on random. It`s not realistic, true but the entire power system is just simplified for better game performance. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/110751-i-have-a-couple-of-questions-and-topics/#findComment-1249175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharraShimada Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 This is a game. Its NOT reality. While it may be hard to understand, a game may work in any style the devs want it to be. And if they decide to make power out of thin air, thats the way, the game works. Please stop comparing everything to real life. Its not. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/110751-i-have-a-couple-of-questions-and-topics/#findComment-1249187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicbox Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 30 minutes ago, SharraShimada said: This is a game. Its NOT reality. While it may be hard to understand, a game may work in any style the devs want it to be. And if they decide to make power out of thin air, thats the way, the game works. Please stop comparing everything to real life. Its not. hey, no need to get toxic about it. I must've not made it clear that I think think the wire in the game shouldn't overload when not connected because that's the way it works in reality. but sure, the devs have complete liberty as to what they put in their game but if it will be that way, why not make the boiling point of water 32 degrees celsius or something or why even have wires in the first place? why not just make the generators work through magic. because this game is supposed to, to some degree, simulate reality and I just pointed the wire thing out because it's a really obvious thing easily rectified. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/110751-i-have-a-couple-of-questions-and-topics/#findComment-1249197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipplyman Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 The wires in a dead end wire tile are spliced together; oni circuits are wired in series. It's like a hose: it doesn't matter how close the sprayer is to the faucet, the water still has to travel through the whole hose. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/110751-i-have-a-couple-of-questions-and-topics/#findComment-1249357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutineer Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 10 hours ago, Musicbox said: thanks. well, that may be true for the game but in reality you can connect an insulated wire to all the power in the world, if it has nothing to discharge into on the other side, it's just going to stay that way. or so I believe, I don't have a degree in physics. if you had a 100 kilometer wire it would be fine until you connected it on the other side, at which point it would start to heat up, when an electric current would start circulating through it but as long as there's nothing on the other END* (I edited here cause I wrote on the other "hand" initially), the wire is inert. anybody correct me if im wrong Yes, you are wrong. You will not be wrong if it is a constant current. But all real electric system based on cyclic current. (Sorry I do not know English electric terminology). Why? because by using it you can transfer much more power. That makes the power system venerable in a way. You can connect Tranformator to wire which will consume no power. You just need to configure it to phase shift. That will cause a great increase in power consumption on empty lines in the form of heat. If the power system did not register and compensate you can literally burn wires far away from where you connect your transformator. It is great simplification, but it can be done. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/110751-i-have-a-couple-of-questions-and-topics/#findComment-1249361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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