Real Hydroponics dosen't use dirt

[trinitas]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroponics

Soiless solution. instead, it uses nutrients

So why is it called hydroponics in game?

[badgamer123]

they could force all of them use fertilizer ,but balance

[fiziologus]

19 hours ago, trinitas said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroponics

Soiless solution. instead, it uses nutrients

So why is it called hydroponics in game?

Most hydroponics need some substrate (sand, clay pellets, sponge etc) for roots support. In ONI hydroponics use clay/dirt as substrate. It is primitive tech level of course but close to real.

[trinitas]

they use "net pots" so sand and dirt would go right trough. but clay pellets and sponges is ok, they will stay in the pot.

[DarkMaster13]

Hydroponics tiles are not built with dirt.  Only farm tiles use it as a substrait.  After that, only plants that need dirt will be given it.

[trinitas]

The image of the hydroponic farm tile is like 80% dirt when hydroponics should be "dirtless" that's the big concept of hydroponics

[fiziologus]

36 minutes ago, trinitas said:

they use "net pots" so sand and dirt would go right trough. but clay pellets and sponges is ok, they will stay in the pot.

From your link

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Sand is cheap and easily available. However, it is heavy, does not hold water very well, and it must be sterilized between uses

Dirt/clay also possibly (it is initial tech level for hydroponics and no use now).

For hydroponics may use any hydrophilic 'soil' even wool and plastics pellets.

[Sasza22]

1 hour ago, trinitas said:

The image of the hydroponic farm tile is like 80% dirt when hydroponics should be "dirtless" that's the big concept of hydroponics

To be fair building one doesn`t require dirt. You build those from metal. Lets just assume the art is inaccurate.

[trinitas]

3 hours ago, Sasza22 said:

To be fair building one doesn`t require dirt. You build those from metal. Lets just assume the art is inaccurate.

yeah i see now that they used the farmtiles art and just mirrored it. so is it a bug that it uses dirt?

[DarkMaster13]

1 hour ago, trinitas said:

yeah i see now that they used the farmtiles art and just mirrored it. so is it a bug that it uses dirt?

Mealwood actually gains nothing from being inside hydroponics tile, as it doesn't use water.  It *must* consume dirt to grow as its nutrients, it doesn't just use the dirt for a substrait.  Duplicants have to regularly add more dirt to even regular farm tiles while mealwood is in it, since it's consuming the dirt.

[trinitas]

On 8/5/2019 at 10:42 PM, DarkMaster13 said:

Mealwood actually gains nothing from being inside hydroponics tile, as it doesn't use water.  It *must* consume dirt to grow as its nutrients, it doesn't just use the dirt for a substrait.  Duplicants have to regularly add more dirt to even regular farm tiles while mealwood is in it, since it's consuming the dirt.

ah ok that's explains why it uses so much dirt

[metallichydra]

On 5/8/2019 at 10:42 PM, DarkMaster13 said:

since it's consuming the dirt.

mealwood is made out of dirt

our duplicants eat mealwood

which means

our duplicants eat dirt

[DarkMaster13]

6 minutes ago, metallichydra said:

mealwood is made out of dirt

our duplicants eat mealwood

which means

our duplicants eat dirt

Wasn't that already obvious?

[Lurve]

4 minutes ago, DarkMaster13 said:

Wasn't that already obvious?

Those are the microbes and other organic bits squeezed out of the dirt, and formed into a deliciously nutritive snack.

Technically it ought to drop sand as a byproduct.

[trinitas]

On 8/7/2019 at 8:39 PM, DarkMaster13 said:

Wasn't that already obvious?

that's not made out of mealwood. that's just dirt and water. mealwood is a tree with larvas

[Sasza22]

Basically uo until they added the waterweed all food types were made out of dirt and water, except meat and eggs.

Mealwood converts dirt to calories.
Bristle berries convert water and light into calories.
Dusk caps covert slime into calories (and slime can be converted into dirt or polluted water and algae then algae to dirt)
Sleet wheat converts dirt and water into calories.
Pinch peppernuts conver polluted woater itno calories (and polluted water is basically water plus dirt).

Even nosh beans are water and dirt. They require ethanol and you get that from arbor trees and those require polluted water.
Only waterweed needs something else as bleachstone doesn`t come from water or dirt. It still uses salt water though.

[metallichydra]

and eggs and meat could be made out of dirt by using sage hatches

[Sasza22]

6 hours ago, metallichydra said:

and eggs and meat could be made out of dirt by using sage hatches

I didn`t count them beacause critters can use a variety of stuff as food, including rocks or oxygen. Plants are mostly balanced by dirt and water rewuirements. Critters more by grooming time.

[chasinji]

 

 

10 hours ago, trinitas said:

mealwood is a tree with larvas

i used to call it mealworm, because it has worm, we have lumber in other tree.