Unavailavle Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Cl2 in real life has higher density than CO2 under the same pressure and temperature. Is there any reason this isn’t the case in ONI? Considering that other gases are pretty consistent with real world density? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104767-chlorine-should-be-heavier-than-carbon-dioxide/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
iiitttsss Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I think that is a bad Idea because all the chlorine fall down to the slicsterrs Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104767-chlorine-should-be-heavier-than-carbon-dioxide/#findComment-1176900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfons100 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I disagree. We can't compare ONI to reality, if we'd compare it that way, there'd be a lot of things that needs to be changed. ONI is realistic in its own sense, not compared to ours. It would also do that CO2 management base is far more difficult, I usually put a Carbon Skimmer in the bottom of my base so all exhaled CO2 just falls down there and gets handled with. We can't do that if Chlorine falls down the furthest. CO2 and Oxygen are two of the most important gasses in the game, so if Oxygen falls in the middle, and CO2 falls in the bottom, we got some basic rules in how to manage it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104767-chlorine-should-be-heavier-than-carbon-dioxide/#findComment-1176910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 For some reason chlorine in the ONI universe doesn`t form duo atom molecules so it ends up lighter than CO2. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104767-chlorine-should-be-heavier-than-carbon-dioxide/#findComment-1177000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeglefire Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Wow I just realized the OP is right, Cl2 is heavier and therefore denser than CO2. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104767-chlorine-should-be-heavier-than-carbon-dioxide/#findComment-1197339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightinggale Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Regardless of real life physics, it would be bad to change now as it would break both savegames and strategies. If we really should go for real life physics, what is it about liquid CO2? CO2 goes directly between gas and solid due to sublimation. This has been widely used commercially under the name dry ice as it cools like ice, but without the melting water. On 4/10/2019 at 7:46 AM, iiitttsss said: I think that is a bad Idea because all the chlorine fall down to the slicsterrs That too. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104767-chlorine-should-be-heavier-than-carbon-dioxide/#findComment-1197486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgamer123 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 co2 is hard to keep at liquid in game actually around 5 degree. and no one would let chlorine free float in their base Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104767-chlorine-should-be-heavier-than-carbon-dioxide/#findComment-1197852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightinggale Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 4 hours ago, badgamer123 said: and no one would let chlorine free float in their base Nobody does it intentionally. However keeping parts of the map completely airtight is actually an advanced concept and leaks are fairly common until players get really experienced. Even then players mess up once in a while. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104767-chlorine-should-be-heavier-than-carbon-dioxide/#findComment-1197920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nets Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Unless i recall incorrectly, it was initially so that chlorine was heavier than carbon dioxide, but it was deemed "too easy" by the devs (consider the case of the food storage). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104767-chlorine-should-be-heavier-than-carbon-dioxide/#findComment-1202020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgamer123 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 so co2 pit is harder ....... also the water on top of oil is too funny.... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104767-chlorine-should-be-heavier-than-carbon-dioxide/#findComment-1202281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolthulhu Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 20 hours ago, nets said: Unless i recall incorrectly, it was initially so that chlorine was heavier than carbon dioxide, but it was deemed "too easy" by the devs (consider the case of the food storage). CO2 is sterile too, the only difference is that chlorine kills germs and CO2 doesn't. CO2 was heavier than chlorine long before germs were a thing. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104767-chlorine-should-be-heavier-than-carbon-dioxide/#findComment-1202349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightinggale Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 6 hours ago, badgamer123 said: also the water on top of oil is too funny.... It's obviously not light oil. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104767-chlorine-should-be-heavier-than-carbon-dioxide/#findComment-1202356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgamer123 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Nightinggale said: It's obviously not light oil. but it also lighter then petroleum is crazy,water become almost the lightest liquid in the game(1 ton per tile). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104767-chlorine-should-be-heavier-than-carbon-dioxide/#findComment-1202396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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