Demalis Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 So this is the furthest I've made it in oni. Its closing in on 300 cycles, and I'm not sure what to do next. I have some hydrogen and coal power. I don't run my metal refinery atm it uses too much hydrogen when its running. One water sieve 2 electrolytes and three càrbon scrubbers. I don't have any temperate zones I can grow peppers or red in yet. But I am working on clearing out a slime biome. It just takes so long for the slime lung to die. But yeah do I go up towards space, or down towards oil. I am having a hard time; as I'm not sure what to expect. Thanks for reading. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101448-need-some-direction/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Your next step should be a more robust power system. Try going for natural gas. You should have at least one nat gas geyser on the map. They are pretty reliable as a power source. Just make sure you store the excess gas for the dormant period. With a solid power system you can think about cooling but it`s not that important as long as you can farm enough food. Dusk caps are optimal for that stage of the game, especially when you are mining a slime biome. Try storing slime under water so it doesn`t offgass. It may help you with the slimelung problem. 3 carbon scrubbers are too much. A single one can deal with all the CO2 you produce until you get a petroleum generator (those produce tons of CO2). You should rather go for the oil biome first. Fossils are a great source of lime. And lime is needed for steel. Better not attempt to go into space without steel. You need it for bunker tiles that are resistant to meteor hits. Anyway good luck. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101448-need-some-direction/#findComment-1139723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demalis Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 Thanks Sasza22 for the tips. I'm running bristle berry farms atm. A large percentage of my area is close to 20 C, The one natural gas geyser I found is in the slime biome I'm mining out, it is huge it's maybe 50-75 cycles before it is safe to go in there. I am creating oxygen and ceramics from all the polluted air, so I don't mind the slime doing it's thing.But I heard that making steel was super heat intensive, And I am not sure what comes after ph2o for cooling.I guess oil? ok so it's off to the oil biome. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1614888001 just in case anyone wants to critique, I'm new to this part of the game. Before this I made it to cycle 135 at most, and only past 100 maybe 1 other time. Heat was always an issue for me, look at my base now. Lack of heat is an issue. https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198002353544/screenshot/938338084129330066 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101448-need-some-direction/#findComment-1139736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowulf2010 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I agree with Sasza about heading down to the oil biome. Iron and steel can be heat intensive but if you kick to coolant out at around 261 max for steel and 320 on iron, crude oil is fine to use. Best part is you can send the hot crude oil straight to a petroleum refinery to bring it back down to "only" 75°C. Use a rock granulator to make enough iron for a bare minimum exosuit station of 4 or so to protect your dupes from both slime lung and the oil biome's heat and you'll be golden. I feel that bristle blossoms are just fine. In fact, I've only done mushrooms once and wasn't happy with them. Too much managing of CO2 pressure, water storage of the slime, and cleaning of the ladders for my taste. Of course, if I had just done conveyors I'd probably have a different opinion. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101448-need-some-direction/#findComment-1139753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oni Noob Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I prefer doing space in the late game. I would suggest dig down and try producing plastic to make good bed and improve food and morale Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101448-need-some-direction/#findComment-1139762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demalis Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 Thanks guys, yeah steel is not on my list in the refinery. I guess that is why you mentioned lime. That helps I'll make a rock crusher and some lime see if that changes anything. making the recipes blind unless you have the materials kinda cripples new comers. I am still not clear on what materials I need to do stuff. Like I can make tungsten but why would I? It was getting a little frustrating with out knowing what to do. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101448-need-some-direction/#findComment-1139768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcus2611 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 13 hours ago, Demalis said: Like I can make tungsten but why would I? Tungsten has limited applications in high temperature areas (for example sensors and wires that you expect will be immersed in magma hot enough to melt even steel). Most of the time though iron or steel will suffice. The real utility comes in the later game, when you get niobium from space missions. Tungsten is alloyed with niobium in a molecular forge recipe to create thermium, a super alloy that increases overheat temperature by 900 degrees (steel, the next best option, only increases overheat temp by 200 degrees). This is extremely useful and valuable for certain applications. But you don't need tungsten for now, so save it for later. The stuff is limited so hoard it carefully. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101448-need-some-direction/#findComment-1139975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 17 hours ago, Demalis said: I'm running bristle berry farms atm. A large percentage of my area is close to 20 C, The one natural gas geyser I found is in the slime biome I'm mining out, it is huge it's maybe 50-75 cycles before it is safe to go in there. sounds like you need exosuits. No reason to be concerned with going anywhere outside your base using those. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101448-need-some-direction/#findComment-1139979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowulf2010 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 14 hours ago, Demalis said: Thanks guys, yeah steel is not on my list in the refinery. I guess that is why you mentioned lime. That helps I'll make a rock crusher and some lime see if that changes anything. making the recipes blind unless you have the materials kinda cripples new comers. You need 3 things to make Steel. Iron from refining Iron Ore via Rock Granulator (50/50 Iron and Sand, switch to something else sooner than later), Smooth Hatches (75% conversion, better and gives eggs and/or meat) or a separate Metal Refinery (100% conversion, generates heated coolant and takes 1.2kw of electricity). Lime from a Rock Granulator and is made from Fossils or Egg Shells. You also need Refined Carbon which is made in a Kiln from Coal. Once you have any amount of all 3 of these, the recipe will show up. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101448-need-some-direction/#findComment-1139988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONIfreak Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Apart of oil expand. Buils chlorine room to kill slime faster. Start glossy drecjo farm if you don't already have one. Nat gas is a must - @Sasza22 is right. Tidy up oxygen ( first spom if you already have - oxygen room is next step). Start to hoard hydrogen whenever possible. I like to change pipes inside base for ceramic. But first of all MORE POWER ( buahahahaha - evil laugh) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101448-need-some-direction/#findComment-1140013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Arcus2611 said: Tungsten has limited applications in high temperature areas (for example sensors and wires that you expect will be immersed in magma hot enough to melt even steel) It`s also the only metal that can survive a hydrogen rocket thruster exhaust. Make sure to save some for the rocket automation and bunker door power above the rocket silo. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/101448-need-some-direction/#findComment-1140020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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