Nemisis311 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I'm finding wildly varying information, it's impossible for me to know which is correct. So I figured it would be a good topic of multi-perspective discussion. What is the most efficient use and processing of PH20? Sources I am thinking of it coming from are the natural gas gens, and carbon scrubber, and cleaning up various pools as I go across the map. Options I've seen so far are: fertilizer sieve boiler feed to pincha farm use it for cooling I was about to set up a system that goes from both the natural gas gens and the CO2 cleaning room into a sieve - then through the aquatuner, and ultimately into my cool water reservoir for use in base (pitcher pump) or for fresh water farms. Then I saw all the other options, so now I'm not entirely sure what information is up to date and the current go-to for a symbiotic and most efficient distribution system. My end goal for this run is to create (as close as possible) a mostly automatic and fully symbiotic sustainable system. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97724-most-efficient-ph2o-strategy/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 It really depends on how much PW you are producing versus consuming. For example on my map I have to slush geysers combined that with runoff for the bathrooms and generators I'm producing more than 10 kg/s PW. This allows me to run to water sieves Non-Stop for plenty of water and dirt production. I only need the cool steam vents for oxygen production. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97724-most-efficient-ph2o-strategy/#findComment-1105914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackMaggie Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Make polluted oxygen for puffs but you will need a lot of PW in a pool like 12x4 to get good amount per secound. or This but it harder to implement. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97724-most-efficient-ph2o-strategy/#findComment-1106005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Nemisis311 said: Options I've seen so far are: fertilizer sieve boiler feed to pincha farm use it for cooling Fertilizer doesn`t take much water and you don`t use too much fertilizer. You shouldn`t overproduce it. It takes dirt to make and dirt is hard to renew. Sieve is more efficient that boiling. It converts polluted water to clean 1:1 and produces polluted dirt that can be composted. A late game strategy is to sieve all the polluted water to sustain sleet wheat. Pincha farms can take some polluted water but i often end with a ton of extra peppernuts even from relaitvely small pincha farms. Atm the heat capacity of polluted water is the same as clean so there`s little benefit of using polluted to cool unless you got a slush geyser. For steel production it`s better to use oil or petroleum to cool the smelter. Water tends to boil inside the machine and break the pipes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97724-most-efficient-ph2o-strategy/#findComment-1106032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 14 hours ago, Sasza22 said: Atm the heat capacity of polluted water is the same as clean so there`s little benefit of using polluted to cool unless you got a slush geyser. For steel production it`s better to use oil or petroleum to cool the smelter. Water tends to boil inside the machine and break the pipes. PH2O is good for cooling your base. It's high heat capacity means using an aquatuner to cool it and loop it around your base is very efficient, and it still has a wider operating temperature than clean water. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97724-most-efficient-ph2o-strategy/#findComment-1106377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, psusi said: PH2O is good for cooling your base. It's high heat capacity means using an aquatuner to cool it and loop it around your base is very efficient, and it still has a wider operating temperature than clean water. It`s heat capacity is the same as clean water so it doesn`t make a difference if you use one or another. The temperature range is useful for cooling the smelter but doesn`t matter for base cooling. How often do you need to cool your base from 120oC or down to -10oC. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97724-most-efficient-ph2o-strategy/#findComment-1106413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crypticorb Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 18 minutes ago, Sasza22 said: It`s heat capacity is the same as clean water so it doesn`t make a difference if you use one or another. The temperature range is useful for cooling the smelter but doesn`t matter for base cooling. How often do you need to cool your base from 120oC or down to -10oC. I think he meant it has high specific heat capacity compared to most other liquids. It's nearly 3x the specific heat capacity of petroleum, and in a very long loop of cooled liquid in a base, having the lower thermal conductivity in granite pipes is actually better, to spread the cooling out. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97724-most-efficient-ph2o-strategy/#findComment-1106428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 32 minutes ago, Sasza22 said: It`s heat capacity is the same as clean water so it doesn`t make a difference if you use one or another. The temperature range is useful for cooling the smelter but doesn`t matter for base cooling. How often do you need to cool your base from 120oC or down to -10oC. I meant compared to petroleum. You can probably get by without the extra temperature range, but I accidentally froze regular water with the aquatuner once so I switched to polluted. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97724-most-efficient-ph2o-strategy/#findComment-1106441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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