Why are my wheezeworts warm

[b0bst3r]

This is in a cold/ice biome, I've just planted them, some I moved from a warm area but I wouldn't expect a seed to carry that much warmth with it.

Can anyone explain why this is?

[Nativel]

All plants have starting temperature, no matter from where you'll gonna bring tier seeds. You can uprot whezeeworts, then plant them again and all of them will becam 20 degree or so on the start.

[landromat]

fixed temperature is very big problem of the game

[Lilalaunekuh]

4 minutes ago, landromat said:

fixed temperature is very big problem of the game

Ok we all talk a lot about what we don´t like about fixed temperatures.

(For most buildings it´s a design choice, so let´s say we accept that)

But for plants it seems very strange that planting/uprooting can delete huge amounts of heat

(Genetic ooze can store a good chunk of thermal enrgy before resetting to comfortable 20°C)

 

 

=> Just complaining doesn´t help, so let´s find a better way to determin the temperature of a planted plant.

 

[landromat]

11 minutes ago, Lilalaunekuh said:

let´s find a better way to determin the temperature of a planted plant.

Seed temp = plant temp

[Lilalaunekuh]

59 minutes ago, landromat said:

1 hour ago, Lilalaunekuh said:

let´s find a better way to determin the temperature of a planted plant.

Seed temp = plant temp

Had the same idea, but if you think about it you just fix the "continuous replanting exploit".

 

=> Why not cool your little mass seeds to a very low/high temperature and plant them afterwards ...

(Now you can generate/delete even more thermal energy with each action, but it needs some thoughts to do it)

 

 

A good solution could be something like remove thermal energy from the surrounding when planted and add it again when the plant dies. (But where to draw the energy from ? a) the occupied tiles b) the farm tile c) something different^^)

[landromat]

2 hours ago, Lilalaunekuh said:

Had the same idea, but if you think about it you just fix the "continuous replanting exploit".

 

=> Why not cool your little mass seeds to a very low/high temperature and plant them afterwards ...

(Now you can generate/delete even more thermal energy with each action, but it needs some thoughts to do it)

 

 

A good solution could be something like remove thermal energy from the surrounding when planted and add it again when the plant dies. (But where to draw the energy from ? a) the occupied tiles b) the farm tile c) something different^^)

Then make plant temp = enviroment temp +-seed heat

[Lilalaunekuh]

11 minutes ago, landromat said:

Then make plant temp = enviroment temp +-seed heat

Hope something like this will be implemented to at least prevent unintended plant death from helping you regulate the heat.

(Your plants die; you replant them; you farm again till your farm gets to hot; your plants die ...)

 

But there would be the question what to do in a vacuume or if you exchange the heat with the farm tile there would be cases in which the farm tile should be set to something below 0°K ...

 

Maybe we can present the developers a well thought through solution

(New ideas always welcome^^)

 

[b0bst3r]

Thanks Nativel, I did see em cooling down after a while then I froze (Damaged) the pipes, I guess too cold for the water

[Megouski]

6 hours ago, turbonl64 said:

Honestly? Yes it can be considered an "exploit" by planting and uprooting continually, but that's also a huge pain in the *ss.

I hereby give you permission to curse on the internet.

 

Unless you mean its a huge pain in the social security. Or pain in the Schutzstaffel, where I would say it is our civic duty to replant as much as we can.

[Nativel]

19 hours ago, b0bst3r said:

Thanks Nativel, I did see em cooling down after a while then I froze (Damaged) the pipes, I guess too cold for the water

Water in the pipes will freezes on -2,5C , will be less situations with broken pipes if you will place them inside tiles or on tempshift plates.

One more think - water have very high heat capacity 4,179, remember that in farm and in one pipe tile you have 10 kg of water so it's 41,79 heat capacity each pipe rest materials have 4-5 times less heat capacity, like oxygen have only 1 and very low on mass (1,6kg with is mean 1,6 against 41,79 we have on water with is in 25 times less) raw minerals and metals have te same situation, so water will pown everything on this parametr, only poluted water have 6, with is in 1,5 times more than water. Just remember that, cose some people start thinking that tier game broken because they can't cooldown areas where they have water, and it's like a curse.