Oil boiler without volcanoes

[Neotuck]

Here's another debug test to see how well I could boil oil using molten glass from a glass forge.

Main problem I found is the quantity, glass forge needs 1200W power to make 25kg glass and the heat transfers quickly if submerged in too much oil

So the liquid valve at the top is set to 1kg oil to pass and the shutoff is controlled by the hydro sensor at the bottom set to turn off if above 0kg liquid.

So far it seems to work fine and I'm getting an average of 300g/s natural gas that's enough to run 3 natural gas generators (2400W)

Not the most effective way to boil oil as a volcano would me much more effective but if any one can fine tune this design and make if more effective please reply here with screenshots of your build 

 

[Kabrute]

change up your temp shift plates, remove the ones you have and put them right above the air corner oil spots, that way gass passing will equalize with the oil, and will use 1/2 the shift plates

[AzeTheGreat]

If you incorporate the thermal locks that I have on my builds I expect you could get about 10x as much natural gas out of your glass.

[Neotuck]

2 minutes ago, AzeTheGreat said:

If you incorporate the thermal locks that I have on my builds I expect you could get about 10x as much natural gas out of your glass.

sounds interesting, I'll give it a try

22 minutes ago, Kabrute said:

change up your temp shift plates, remove the ones you have and put them right above the air corner oil spots, that way gass passing will equalize with the oil, and will use 1/2 the shift plates

Is this what you meant? 

[Kabrute]

up one, above the oil slightly

that way ALL the air ties to the oil

[Neotuck]

2 minutes ago, Kabrute said:

up one, above the oil slightly

that way ALL the air ties to the oil

[Kabrute]

this bypass the metal tiles in your heat transfer speeding up the amount of heat you move between the air and the oil, theoretically

7 air tiles to 2 oil tiles should give you a solid thermal lock.

[Neotuck]

42 minutes ago, AzeTheGreat said:

If you incorporate the thermal locks that I have on my builds I expect you could get about 10x as much natural gas out of your glass.

I been studying your build and I'm not sure it will work with glass.  Molten glass will turn solid too quickly to transfer heat into the mech door

And getting the glass on to a rail will overheat a sweeper arm even if it's made of steel.  I don't see a way of keeping the sweeper cool without pulling too much heat away from the glass

If you still think you can make it work then I hope you make a Oil Boiler v3 post soon that uses glass, I'll keep an eye out 

[AzeTheGreat]

5 minutes ago, Neotuck said:

I been studying your build and I'm not sure it will work with glass.  Molten glass will turn solid too quickly to transfer heat into the mech door

And getting the glass on to a rail will overheat a sweeper arm even if it's made of steel.  I don't see a way of keeping the sweeper cool without pulling too much heat away from the glass

If you still think you can make it work then I hope you make a Oil Boiler v3 post soon that uses glass, I'll keep an eye out 

My sweeper system can handle material of any temperature, so that'd be fine.  Conducting through the door might be an issue, I'll play around with glass and see how viable it is at some point.

I was planning on a v3 anyways since there's still a lot to improve.

[JonnyMonroe]

If you want to experiment with other potential sources of heat for this consider working with a refinery creating steel, or melting some wolframite or iron ore in a kiln.

You can also melt rego for heat but some might consider that an exploit.

[Sevio]

@JonnyMonroe How does one melt rego for heat?

[JonnyMonroe]

4 minutes ago, Sevio said:

@JonnyMonroe How does one melt rego for heat?

heat it up to ~1412 Celsius then cool it back down again and you'll get more heat out of it than you put in. I've posted the build here before as a concept but I think @Lifegrow was making a more optimised, professional looking design.

[Lifegrow]

 

1 hour ago, JonnyMonroe said:

heat it up to ~1412 Celsius then cool it back down again and you'll get more heat out of it than you put in. I've posted the build here before as a concept but I think @Lifegrow was making a more optimised, professional looking design.

 

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[greenpheonix632]

can i see the overlays for this build please?

[Denisetwin]

15 hours ago, Neotuck said:

Not the most effective way to boil oil as a volcano would me much more effective

Yes but I don't have a volcano in this seed so I'm very interested to see where this build goes! 

[AzeTheGreat]

7 minutes ago, Denisetwin said:

Yes but I don't have a volcano in this seed so I'm very interested to see where this build goes! 

Not even any metal volcanoes?

[Neotuck]

23 minutes ago, greenpheonix632 said:

can i see the overlays for this build please?

[Denisetwin]

10 minutes ago, AzeTheGreat said:

Not even any metal volcanoes?

I have a gold that puts out the very very minimum it can put out and still be a volcano.  It's ridiculous.  The only hot I have is leaky oil fissure and I can't figure out how to make that work in anything. 

[AzeTheGreat]

11 minutes ago, Denisetwin said:

I have a gold that puts out the very very minimum it can put out and still be a volcano.  It's ridiculous.  The only hot I have is leaky oil fissure and I can't figure out how to make that work in anything. 

Ouch, yeah that sucks.

[Neotuck]

20 minutes ago, AzeTheGreat said:

Not even any metal volcanoes?

I don't like using metal volcanoes due to the low output there will be boiler downtime when it's not erupting

[JonnyMonroe]

1 hour ago, Lifegrow said:

 

 

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It's beautiful....

What density is that natural gas on the right up to?

[Lifegrow]

Just now, JonnyMonroe said:

It's beautiful....

What density is that natural gas on the right up to?

Pulling 1kg/s on the left to feed the 11 nat gas gens (just to power the build and tinker with), then the other 5 pumps to the right move the remainder (temperature/pressure switches allowing).

Honestly, it just became a "ok, so now what else can I use this heat for" kind of build, hence the steam turbines, polluted water boiler, dirt collecting, etc etc. As I say, it got out of hand. I still have igneous leaving at ~500°c which could be used for cooking fertilzer, warming molten slicksters - dunno really  I'm only feeding it 4kg/s of oil as that'd give enough gas for 44.4 nat gas gens, which kind of seemed silly in itself  

[Neotuck]

2 hours ago, Lifegrow said:

 

 

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Looks good, my goal is to supply 25 natural gas gens (2250 g/s) to max out the 20kW limit on a single heavy watt circuit 

[JonnyMonroe]

9 minutes ago, Lifegrow said:

Pulling 1kg/s on the left to feed the 11 nat gas gens (just to power the build and tinker with), then the other 5 pumps to the right move the remainder (temperature/pressure switches allowing).

Honestly, it just became a "ok, so now what else can I use this heat for" kind of build, hence the steam turbines, polluted water boiler, dirt collecting, etc etc. As I say, it got out of hand. I still have igneous leaving at ~500°c which could be used for cooking fertilzer, warming molten slicksters - dunno really  I'm only feeding it 4kg/s of oil as that'd give enough gas for 44.4 nat gas gens, which kind of seemed silly in itself  

Similar results to what I was seeing then. It just generates too damned much heat. I was just feeding the rock to hatches whilst still hot.

[Lifegrow]

22 minutes ago, Neotuck said:

Looks good, my goal is to supply 25 natural gas gens (2250 g/s) to max out the 20kW limit on a single heavy watt circuit 

2.2kg/s is easy mode.

As Jonny says, got too much heat and not enough stuff to boil/bake now