Overload Damage (Transformer input side) ?

[Lilalaunekuh]

I really like to tinker with some logic in ONI so i encounter many "strange/unexspected" stuff.

If i run a battery bank on a 2kW conductiv wire with a max 840w consumers and 2 transformers (each transformer line got at least one battery) behind shut offs with automation depending on my battery level. So just if i got more than 75% in my battery bank i want to start suppling my other circuits with (more) energy. Easy to set up with a shut off, a smart battery and a NOT gate. 

Now i got some overload damage on my wire while just 240w consumtion on my main line and the tooltip showed me a usage of 10,24kW of 840W. Which brought 2 questions up:

1.) After some reading here in the forum a though the max throughput of a transformer on a line with batteries on each side should be 4kW (4 ticks per sec), but my experiment showed 5kW per transformer (but just for a short burst, which is still long enough to cause overload damage). So how much could a transformer supply under optimal conditions ?

 

2.)How could i make my design overload proof ? (Would like to use just conductive wires, but i am willing to do build some advanced logic to achieve this.)

[Coolthulhu]

1) Are you sure it's not just combined transformer+battery load? Batteries can discharge at (effectively or actually) unlimited rate.

2) You could avoid having batteries on output side. A single uncharged battery will max out transformer rate and the only thing you can do there is limiting input rate. A transformer with a charged battery on input and uncharged battery on output will max out the transfer and there is no non-exploity way to prevent it.

If you don't mind exploits, I recall someone abusing the fact that overload damage only appeared on a second second of overload. If it isn't fixed yet, you could try "pulsing" the transformer for one second, then letting it cool down for the next second.

[Lilalaunekuh]

4 minutes ago, Coolthulhu said:

A transformer with a charged battery on input and uncharged battery on output will max out the transfer and there is no non-exploity way to prevent it.

 Thank you so much

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44 minutes ago, Lilalaunekuh said:

Now i got some overload damage on my wire while just 240w consumtion on my main line and the tooltip showed me a usage of 10,24kW of 840W. Which brought 2 questions up:

44 minutes ago, Lilalaunekuh said:

each transformer line got at least one battery)

Your situation seems like this thread.

 

43 minutes ago, Lilalaunekuh said:

4kW (4 ticks per sec)

4 ticks per sec is out of date. I believe there are 5 ticks per second now.

43 minutes ago, Lilalaunekuh said:

So how much could a transformer supply under optimal conditions ?

If you are asking the max number a transformer can supply, the answer is 10kw(thanks to trukogre).

8 minutes ago, Coolthulhu said:

If you don't mind exploits, I recall someone abusing the fact that overload damage only appeared on a second second of overload. If it isn't fixed yet, you could try "pulsing" the transformer for one second, then letting it cool down for the next second.

I guess it has been fixed in OC upgrade. After OC upgrade, it seems overload time will accumulate until a segment of wire is broken.

[Lilalaunekuh]

 

If the bug is closed and i think been fixed, and i would assume just one transformer was requesting power while watching the 10kW would make sense.

So transformer can just be used withou risk while using heavy-watt wire ?

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16 minutes ago, Lilalaunekuh said:

If the bug is closed and i think been fixed,

This thread is closed, because it's a feature, not a bug.