Tab1 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Can anyone explain how the smart battery work cus i am not 'smart' enough to understand the game text and also can someone direct me to any forums, youtube links that explains function of OR AND NOT gates etc. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87794-automation-and-smart-battery-help/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Top slider tells you when to turn whatever it's connected to OFF Bottom slider tells you at what point to turn it ON Connect it to your generators and you're done Heres my power grid if that helps : Left battery does coal (kicks on when battery bank is only 20% full) , middle does natural gas gens - my primary power (kicks on when batteries fall below 70%), right does hydrogen gens (on when batteries fall below 10% - emergency power). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87794-automation-and-smart-battery-help/#findComment-1006204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarquan Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 AND takes two signals (from automation wires) and only outputs green if both inputs are green OR takes two signals and if at least one of the inputs is green, its output is green NOT takes a green and outputs red and takes a red and outputs green. green is TRUE, red is FALSE. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87794-automation-and-smart-battery-help/#findComment-1006213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tab1 Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 Thanks guy that helps Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87794-automation-and-smart-battery-help/#findComment-1006214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoma_Nosme Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I've read a helpful comment from kabrute. Generator - smart bat - transformer - any bat So your normal batteries always get charged before your smart batterie since they have more capacity than the smart batteries Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87794-automation-and-smart-battery-help/#findComment-1006222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0r Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Yoma_Nosme said: I've read a helpful comment from kabrute. Generator - smart bat - transformer - any bat So your normal batteries always get charged before your smart batterie since they have more capacity than the smart batteries The problem I was having with batteries was that they both naturally lose part of their charge daily, but different batteries lose charge at different rates. To quote @Saturnus in another thread: It's a fixed Joule discharge, not a percentage. A smart battery discharge is 400J/cycle. A large battery is 2KJ/cycle. And a tiny battery is 1KJ/cycle. If all batteries are full that's comparable to 2%, 5% and 10% discharge respectively. That's why using large batteries aren't a good idea and will waste more power. Even though the large battery holds double the capacity of the smart battery, it also loses a greater % of its charge daily. I just switched over to only smart batteries, hooked them up to my generators with automation wires set to switch on at 10% charge and off at 90% charge, and now I'm wasting no fuel at all, just getting some power loss from natural discharge. Smart batteries together with automation is the way to go. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87794-automation-and-smart-battery-help/#findComment-1006248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argelle Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Lifegrow said: Top slider tells you when to turn whatever it's connected to OFF Bottom slider tells you at what point to turn it ON Heres my power grid if that helps : middle does natural gas gens - my primary power (kicks on when batteries fall below 70%), Thanks for the exemple, it will benefit others like me! So = sliders define a range of activity? = active between top and bottom values (here xx-70%) Other question, for natural gas it looks more complexe than plug in the smart batterie (as for coal and H2). The logical gates in the middle do something to the pump, etc.. am I right? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87794-automation-and-smart-battery-help/#findComment-1006253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 38 minutes ago, Argelle said: Thanks for the exemple, it will benefit others like me! So = sliders define a range of activity? = active between top and bottom values (here xx-70%) It's a hysteresis control, so it's basically a built-in SR latch. It becomes active when the battery charge level is equal to or lower than the lower slider setting. It shuts off when the battery charge level has reached the top slider setting. It will remain off until the first condition is meet again. 38 minutes ago, Argelle said: Other question, for natural gas it looks more complexe than plug in the smart batterie (as for coal and H2). The logical gates in the middle do something to the pump, etc.. am I right? Nah. It just shuts it off like every other generator. One thing to note though is that since smart systems work so well, it's often a good idea just to have dedicated generators to each circuit instead of a centralized circuit. That means you don't have to use heavi-watt wires or transformers which save an enormous amount of metal but does require you to have more generators and a fuel buffer system. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87794-automation-and-smart-battery-help/#findComment-1006254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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