Scrappy Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Hello everyone. I created new base and I decide to keep it in average temperature between 20 - 30 degrees Celsius. I also found steam geyser right above cold biome and water dripping down there immediately freeze to ice. I need an advice how to melt it down without making some unnecessary heat all around my base and preferably as fast as possible. Thank you Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84000-melting-ice/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 If anything, this seems like the ideal conditions under which to "contain" the Geyser. While it's bricked over by the Ice, build your water tank out of Abyssalite, and the Liquid Pump/pipes/wires associated with it. After it's all done, re-open the Geyser. Leave an opening in the top of the chamber for gases displaced by the incoming water to escape. You won't Scald your Dupes, and you won't lose any water. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84000-melting-ice/#findComment-972953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdallicardillo Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 36 minutes ago, PhailRaptor said: If anything, this seems like the ideal conditions under which to "contain" the Geyser. While it's bricked over by the Ice, build your water tank out of Abyssalite, and the Liquid Pump/pipes/wires associated with it. After it's all done, re-open the Geyser. Leave an opening in the top of the chamber for gases displaced by the incoming water to escape. You won't Scald your Dupes, and you won't lose any water. it doesn't sound like the geyser is being frozen, but that the geyser water if dripping into a cold biome and freezing there. Probably the simplest thing to do would be to build some storage containers and next to your existing heat sources (generators, electrolyzers, etc.) and use them specifically for ice, use mesh tiles for the floors and build a catch tank underneath with a pump to your main tank (if you care where it ends up). if you don't need the water from the melted ice immediately that is probably the least new construction requiring solution. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84000-melting-ice/#findComment-972971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonVile Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Klei needs to fix how ice melts. I've placed ice in areas where the temperature is over 100 degrees and here's no effect on it. Right now I put a storage container in the water where my geyser is to store ice to see if anything happens and there's been no reaction yet. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84000-melting-ice/#findComment-973399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyPerfect Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 I've found ice to be extraordinarily resistant to temperature changes when you pack it together in a storage bin. It's probably a quirk of the thermal transfer mechanic, but I have yet to yield useful water out of large stores of the stuff. Since it is so gosh-darn resilient, you might consider taking it down to the oil biomes and cool some things off on the way. Even if it blasts into steam (which it really won't, since temperatures there don't tend to break 90) you should be able to mop it up and carry it back to your storage reservoirs. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84000-melting-ice/#findComment-973423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 The issue with ice melt is that while it is a natural block, it will melt over time, but once you dig it up, it will only ever melt all at once. So as you gather it into a storage locker, you can end up with a giant flood of water as your 20,000 kg of Ice filling a storage locker decides it's ready to melt all at once. Not that this is likely to occur in any form of rapid fashion, though. Ice has a huge Capacity, and a meh Conductivity. The quantity of Heat that will ultimately be required to achieve said melting is rather substantial. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84000-melting-ice/#findComment-973465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanoD Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Put the storage locker in water and set it to 1 000 kg, and it will melt the ice in 1-2 cycles. Depending on the water temp it sits in. If you want to melt more put in more lockers. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84000-melting-ice/#findComment-973644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonVile Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 I decided to put my Ice and Snow in Storage in the Water where my Steam Geyser is and surprisingly its been keeping the temperature at an average of 85F. Its been over 50 Cycles and 2 out of 3 lockers are almost full and there's been no melting so far. Energy free water cooling while not using Weezeworts or Hydrogen? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84000-melting-ice/#findComment-974149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le0n1des Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 The melting will happen eventually... The whole 20 tons melt instantaneously, so you better have 20 available tiles per container when they are about to hit the melting point. Not going to happen anytime soon though, as 20 tons of ice take lots of heat to melt... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84000-melting-ice/#findComment-974157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
asveron Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 On 11/11/2017 at 8:36 PM, GuyPerfect said: I've found ice to be extraordinarily resistant to temperature changes when you pack it together in a storage bin. It's probably a quirk of the thermal transfer mechanic, but I have yet to yield useful water out of large stores of the stuff. Since it is so gosh-darn resilient, you might consider taking it down to the oil biomes and cool some things off on the way. Even if it blasts into steam (which it really won't, since temperatures there don't tend to break 90) you should be able to mop it up and carry it back to your storage reservoirs. The weird thing is that when it does melt, every single ice I store inside just explodes out at the same time. I've had this cause so much additional weight that my 2 tile thick water storage cracked and collapsed. luckily I built another water storage room beneath it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84000-melting-ice/#findComment-974177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonVile Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 On 11/13/2017 at 4:12 PM, Le0n1des said: The melting will happen eventually... The whole 20 tons melt instantaneously, so you better have 20 available tiles per container when they are about to hit the melting point. Not going to happen anytime soon though, as 20 tons of ice take lots of heat to melt... Yeah, it hit me just after I posted my last message and one then the other decided to melt. I wasn't read for it. The lowest I got the temperature down to at my geyser was around 65F. I guess the only way to maintain that is a way to make ice constantly to keep refilling the lockers. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84000-melting-ice/#findComment-975031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Pwater store Pice gets super cold, water pooling across the top of this frosts into ice ready to pick up, just don't let the water build up. I used to keep a puddle of pwater beneath where my ice water was discharging to recycle ice... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/84000-melting-ice/#findComment-990529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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