apple cake Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 kind of a weird question but i think that airlocks could stall germ spread or stop germ spread between areas and rooms etc. i'm fairly new to this game so this might just be a dumb question (this room is for sick dupes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcheung Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Since 3 or more in a row destroy whatever air that's in its way when they close, i would say they have the potential to slow or stop germ spread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Remember that germs can spread through tiles now - not only airborne. If your floors/walls start to become infested, then you'll notice germ spread regardless of airlocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcheung Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Which, to an extent, is okay. However, some of the spread is absolutely absurd-if i have a layer of walls 3 thick, how is the stuff creeping in through solid material that stops air and water? Wish it was limited to creeping on the surface of a surface rather than through the core... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jcheung said: Which, to an extent, is okay. However, some of the spread is absolutely absurd-if i have a layer of walls 3 thick, how is the stuff creeping in through solid material that stops air and water? Wish it was limited to creeping on the surface of a surface rather than through the core... Germs are microscopic Also, these are ONI germs - maybe they can diffuse through the wall.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi01 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Huh I've never had germs spread through tiles, I've seem them spread to solid materials but only because dupes interacted with them and otherwise I've only seen them spread through gases and liquids. Although it shouldn't be too much of an issue as neither food poisoning nor slimelung can survive in tiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispershade Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Germs, slimelung specifically, grows in slime. When the population exceeds 1 million a part of the colony will push out into an adjacent tile of solid. But unless that tile is also slime it cannot really migrate any futher. Food poisoning does not grow on solids but there was a rare situaton a very large colony could take up in a tile that would cause mild migration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevio Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Airlocks can save your base from becoming infected with slimelung, by keeping polluted oxygen out. Combine that with a deodorizer to get rid of small amounts of polluted oxygen that do make it through. They won't help you at all with food poisoning, because food poisoning spreads entirely via dupe interactions. (except for multiplying in polluted water, but currently dupes don't get infected by walking through it, oddly enough) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 6 hours ago, Whispershade said: Germs, slimelung specifically, grows in slime. When the population exceeds 1 million a part of the colony will push out into an adjacent tile of solid. But unless that tile is also slime it cannot really migrate any futher. Food poisoning does not grow on solids but there was a rare situaton a very large colony could take up in a tile that would cause mild migration. As you can see - they will happily spread onto surfaces, but for the most part they seem to spread no further. I have got some slime lung in that tank - however i'm not sure where it's come from, as the polluted oxygen/polluted water only contained food poisoning originally... I need to do some more testing to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispershade Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 12 minutes ago, Lifegrow said: As you can see - they will happily spread onto surfaces, but for the most part they seem to spread no further. I have got some slime lung in that tank - however i'm not sure where it's come from, as the polluted oxygen/polluted water only contained food poisoning originally... I need to do some more testing to be honest Yes, a tile of solid. I'm actually surprised the tile managed to acquire more than a million germ colony. I had not seen that and was curious if that would facilitate further spread. It previously seemed like the die off of a non-slime tile would become greater than what a slime tile could push over. If I had to guess on the slimelung in the polluted oxygen in your tank, I could only assume it was some incidental exposure along the way that eventually propagated. Maybe a bit of infected PO migrated and merged with the group or someone ran by with some sublimating slime. Given the proximity to the slime biome there, it could have just bit a small bit of PO left over from excavation that once the PO built up from the water it had a place to spread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Whispershade said: Yes, a tile of solid. I'm actually surprised the tile managed to acquire more than a million germ colony. I had not seen that and was curious if that would facilitate further spread. It previously seemed like the die off of a non-slime tile would become greater than what a slime tile could push over. If I had to guess on the slimelung in the polluted oxygen in your tank, I could only assume it was some incidental exposure along the way that eventually propagated. Maybe a bit of infected PO migrated and merged with the group or someone ran by with some sublimating slime. Given the proximity to the slime biome there, it could have just bit a small bit of PO left over from excavation that once the PO built up from the water it had a place to spread. Nah, that area is filled with chlorine - this isn't my first rodeo - i'm just regularly baffled As ever, new updates provide new reasons to scratch my beard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispershade Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Lifegrow said: Nah, that area is filled with chlorine - this isn't my first rodeo - i'm just regularly baffled As ever, new updates provide new reasons to scratch my beard The slimelung infected gas in that tank is chlorine? What's super weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, Whispershade said: The slimelung infected gas in that tank is chlorine? What's super weird. No no sorry, I wasn't clear - the airlocks on the left of the tank (beneath the status messages) lead to a chlorine filled area - that's the only entrance to the tank. Slimelung was never present inside the tank, and I made a point of leaving some chlorine inside to help with killing off the germs (bottom right). As ever, this is a stream base so I often take my eye off the ball (normally with disastrous consequences...) so nothing is certain Should be noted the wheezewarts below are in a -60 hydrogen room, that is chilling my water - however at this point it hadn't reached temp (and it's a bit of an unknown derpy experiment to be honest)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispershade Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, Lifegrow said: Slimelung was never present inside the tank, and I made a point of leaving some chlorine inside to help with killing off the germs (bottom right). Having played around with cleaning up areas it is very very hard to eradicate all the germs. You could have had like a single tile of PO of like 20 grams with 2000 germs breeding in there left over from the original excavation just milling about until it had a chance to merge. I just assume that pockets of PO will become infected eventually if I let them sit and don't treat it aggressively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloomRide Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Quadruple airlocks (unplugged airlock followed by two horizontal ones and another at the end) create a nearly impenetrable void between areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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