Mayli-Song Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Upon booting up the game and playing for an hour and a half, my colony ran out of easily accessible water, and that made me wonder about sustainability. I know in this game, all water could be considered a spring, but I was pondering the idea of much rarer pockets of water that if given time will begin to refill. Obviously this would need to be pretty slow and very rare so you couldn't abuse the system, but a particular natural spawned block that will slowly fill the space around it with water could be something worth considering. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/75705-idea-water-springs/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingDedede Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 @ImDaMisterL, I beat you to the punch. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/75705-idea-water-springs/#findComment-880427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teyko Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 the problem with running out of water only happens to players who are fresh to the game. Your water source if around 200kg should last with ease for more than 60 cyles. we also have a mass loss right now in the pipes wich is going to be fixed. and we are getting a steam geyser that is going to produce steam which will turn to water when cooled off. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/75705-idea-water-springs/#findComment-881086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kael_Rus Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 It produces steam AND water. Though the water is in much smaller amounts. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/75705-idea-water-springs/#findComment-881097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_anderson Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I think its a good idea to introduce underground water streams, nothing too OP, just a little stream of water, enough to make food at least. edit: or power a little water wheel perhaps, it wouldnt be much but add some neat elements to the game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/75705-idea-water-springs/#findComment-882887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 18 minutes ago, mr_anderson said: I think its a good idea to introduce underground water streams, nothing too OP, just a little stream of water, enough to make food at least. Hmmm, you don't need water to make food you know Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/75705-idea-water-springs/#findComment-882893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_anderson Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, Saturnus said: Hmmm, you don't need water to make food you know regardless of that, real world has them too and i think it would add a more authentic look to the game. I imagine a long water stream vane in 1x1 blocks going up to the surface (beyond the unmineable blocks) but you cant actually see where it comes from cause you cant dig up and the vane is only 1x1. edit : but i dont know how it would work taking in consideration current water mechanics. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/75705-idea-water-springs/#findComment-882895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just out of curiosity. How realistic is it to have a printing pod that makes duplicants that somehow pops up in the middle of an asteroid hurtling through space? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/75705-idea-water-springs/#findComment-882896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_anderson Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Saturnus said: Just out of curiosity. How realistic is it to have a printing pod that makes duplicants that somehow pops up in the middle of an asteroid hurtling through space? magic is just science we dont understand yet? X D Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/75705-idea-water-springs/#findComment-882897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 So in conclusion. No, it's a bad idea. The only reason you would need this is because you have not played it enough to realize that you don't need water for anything at all. Nothing that your dupes actually needs to survive requires the use of water. I have a base currently at 1001 cycles (and it could go on forever but where's the point in that), and I haven't used a single drop of water except for what is used for researching in the beginning. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/75705-idea-water-springs/#findComment-882899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBrobotnik Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 What I wanna know is why we can't have weather effects. Water that has been vaprized becomes rain. We should be able to heat up water to create our localized rains. Also, through electrolysis you can seperate oxygen and hydrogen. That mechanic would allow for another source of oxygen but only assuming you can hande the hydrogen. You could make both a source of oxygen and power with water. Since rain returns water and oxygen extraction doesn't, you wouldn't have an infinite source - just more sources that makes technological sense and requires proper management. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/75705-idea-water-springs/#findComment-882904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_anderson Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 electrolysis... There is such a thing in the game already tho? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/75705-idea-water-springs/#findComment-882907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, DrBrobotnik said: What I wanna know is why we can't have weather effects. Water that has been vaprized becomes rain. We should be able to heat up water to create our localized rains. Also, through electrolysis you can seperate oxygen and hydrogen. That mechanic would allow for another source of oxygen but only assuming you can hande the hydrogen. You could make both a source of oxygen and power with water. Since rain returns water and oxygen extraction doesn't, you wouldn't have an infinite source - just more sources that makes technological sense and requires proper management. Wait. Sorry for asking this but have you played the game at all? There is a building called an Electrolyzer that makes O2 (and hydrogen) from water already. You can make steam and condense it in the game already. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/75705-idea-water-springs/#findComment-882908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_anderson Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, Saturnus said: So in conclusion. No, it's a bad idea. The only reason you would need this is because you have not played it enough to realize that you don't need water for anything at all. Nothing that your dupes actually needs to survive requires the use of water. I have a base currently at 1001 cycles (and it could go on forever but where's the point in that), and I haven't used a single drop of water except for what is used for researching in the beginning. well, youre right i havent played it as much as i would like, but i will get around to it and we will continue this at a later date. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/75705-idea-water-springs/#findComment-882912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBrobotnik Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just now, Saturnus said: Wait. Sorry for asking this but have you played the game at all? There is a building called an Electrolyzer that makes O2 (and hydrogen) from water already. You can make steam and condense it in the game already. Yeah I've played it a whole ******* lot... I didn't sleep tonight and am tired, that's my excuse... Speaking of, you can make actual steam? Does it become water? How do? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/75705-idea-water-springs/#findComment-882913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 minute ago, mr_anderson said: There is such a thing in the game already tho? No. And that is exactly the point. If there was you would not be forced to actually explore the possibilities the game already provides. It would just be another super easy base sim game where you didn't have to come up with inventive ways to make what you need from the limited resources available. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/75705-idea-water-springs/#findComment-882914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just now, DrBrobotnik said: Yeah I've played it a whole ******* lot... I didn't sleep tonight and am tired, that's my excuse... Speaking of, you can make actual steam? Does it become water? How do? Search the ONI General Discussion forum for the keyword "steam", and you'll find many different ways to achieve it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/75705-idea-water-springs/#findComment-882916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_anderson Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Saturnus said: No. And that is exactly the point. If there was you would not be forced to actually explore the possibilities the game already provides. It would just be another super easy base sim game where you didn't have to come up with inventive ways to make what you need from the limited resources available. sorry i quoted the wrong person X D. dont sweat it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/75705-idea-water-springs/#findComment-882918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 minute ago, mr_anderson said: sorry i quoted the wrong person X D. dont sweat it. No worries. I thought you were back on the original topic on the thread Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/75705-idea-water-springs/#findComment-882921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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