Crockpot shouldn't make vegetarian dishes when you use limpets

[CameoAppearance]

It's pretty bizarre when you put three limpets and a berry into the crockpot and it makes jam because the limpets don't count as anything that would override the 1 berry, and that you get ratatouille from adding a sweet potato to your limpets. I mostly play Wilson and Warly myself, so this is just sort of weird and a little immersion-breaking for me, but it seems like a real problem for Wigfrid players. She can eat the limpets before putting them in the crockpot, but if the other ingredients don't include a higher-value fish or something the crockpot recognises as meat, it produces a vegetarian dish and wastes perfectly good seafood. If you're playing Wigfrid that's not much better than when we had that bug where crockpot food instantly turned to Rot; the only way it's better is that you can feed it to pigs.

I'd say the easiest solution to this would be to implement a basic seafood recipe with a higher priority than Fist Full of Jam and Ratatouille that only needs to contain a fish ingredient. It doesn't have to be a GOOD recipe, it's fair if it doesn't restore much health, hunger or sanity. Lowering the requirements for one of the less valuable Shipwrecked fish recipes (Seafood Gumbo or Ceviche, I guess) would also work if creating a new dish isn't viable at this stage.

[YumoS]

just make 1 limpet 1 twig and 2 berries and you will get fishsticks!

[LadyD]

Limpets are a sort of snail. So I suppose they are a kind of 'meat' although not as much as morsels and the like. They do have a very low 'food value' maybe that is why they don't give you a meat dish because the other content in the crockpot has higher value and dominates- bit like how eggplant overrides almost everything when its in a dish and you get stuffed egg plant. 

[TemporaryMan]

Actually, stuffed eggplant will only override meatballs, ratatouille and meaty stew, and sometimes froggle bunwiches, butter muffins and dragon pie.  It's only priority 1, but it has a fairly non-restrictive recipe.  Case in point: cactus flower + butterfly wings + dragon fruit + eggplant = butter muffin / dragon pie / stuffed eggplant.  Crock pot recipes have a priority, a list of requirements and a list of restrictions; you can read about it on the wiki or experiment with Rezecib's simulator.

What's happened is the smaller fish no longer count as meat for recipe purposes and there aren't any low-priority meaty recipes that require >= 0.5 fish and 0 meat.  Meanwhile, all the old recipes were created with the assumption that all fish ingredients are meat, so strictly-vegetarian recipes only forbid meat.  Hence, snail jam.

The easy workaround for Wigfrid is 3 limpets + 1 twig = fishsticks, but the ideal solution would be adding a -1 priority meatless fish dish (or broadening meatballs' requirements to meat or fish) and adding a no fish restriction to all recipes that forbid meat.  

Or it could be left as it is so we can continue to enjoy jellyfish jam, limpetatouille, wobster muffins, snail medley, crab salad, musselpie, snail mix, ballphinsicles and jellyfish ice cream.  Actually, it turns out we could make powder cakes, waffles and pumpkin cookies with turkey all along, so maybe snail waffles aren't so bad; at least it's not soap.

[SapphireBullets]

5 hours ago, TemporaryMan said:

Or it could be left as it is so we can continue to enjoy jellyfish jam, limpetatouille, wobster muffins, snail medley, crab salad, musselpie, snail mix, ballphinsicles and jellyfish ice cream.  Actually, it turns out we could make powder cakes, waffles and pumpkin cookies with turkey all along, so maybe snail waffles aren't so bad; at least it's not soap.

I only know American as a second language but is "Jellyjam" something Yanks talk about? That could be a good result for Jellyfish + Fruit.

Maybe there could be other low-fish gag dishes like "Limp Noodles" for Limpets or "Mussel Sprouts".

Perhaps just a small "Fishcake" for low fish content foods. Something small and relatively less nutritious than Seafood Gumbo.

[stl1234]

On ‎2‎/‎17‎/‎2016 at 2:13 PM, CameoAppearance said:

It's pretty bizarre when you put three limpets and a berry into the crockpot and it makes jam because the limpets don't count as anything that would override the 1 berry, and that you get ratatouille from adding a sweet potato to your limpets.

I completely agree. This bothers me a lot more than it should. My preferred solution would be the same thing suggested above, along the lines of adding a no-fish check to vegetarian recipes, and adding a recipe like casserole = any fish value & no twigs & no ice & no meat, -1 priority, meatball stats.

[DeputyDeath]

I just turn my limpets into eggs nowadays, but I agree that they're fairly unpredictable in a crock pot. They often don't seem to influence the recipe at all, as if you're just putting ice in.

Maybe limpets could be given a meat value of 0.25? That would prevent them from being completely overpowered like they used to (1 monster meat + 1 limpet + 2 eggs = bacon and eggs), but still allow them to make sense.

I guess that if you're looking for a cheap source of meat nowadays you can just wall off 5 or so prime ape huts and order them to attack eachother. You can get over a stack of morsels in a day without even thinking...