How to stop the puddles?

[Embrodian]

How are sandbags supposed to be used? Can someone help me out by posting a picture? 

[Mday]

How are sandbags supposed to be used? Can someone help me out by posting a picture? 

The game spawn puddles during the first monsoon rain. Puddles expend to each adjacent tiles upon subsequent rain. Sandbag do not stop the puddles from expending (so surrounding your base/the puddle with sandbag wall won't work). You can however "kill" a puddle by placing a sandbag right on top of it. The sandbag can safely be removed afterward. Subsequent rain will not spawn more puddle.

 

If your base is already heavily flooded then there is not much you can do.

If you aren't into monsoon yet, make 30~40 sandbags. As soon as you see any puddles near your base, start placing sandbags over the puddles. Make sure you cover every tiles.

 

In this game I have 4 puddles spawned near my base, plus more from deep in the forest. I only make enough sandbag for those near my base. The water you see in the picture are the resulting spread from those I didn't cover. If your base is already heavily flooded then there is not much you can do.

[t0panka]

Same as other features that are happening on specific seasons!

 

- no honey in winter

- no farms in winter

- no cactus flower in spring, autumn, winter

- no roof = puddles

- sand bags working against puddles in your base is just forum myth from people that think that walls around base are protecting from rain from above falling in your base

[Mday]

Same as other features that are happening on specific seasons!

 

- no honey in winter

- no farms in winter

- no cactus flower in spring, autumn, winter

- no roof = puddles

- sand bags working against puddles in your base is just forum myth from people that think that walls around base are protecting from rain from above falling in your base

Similarly, it is also in myth that puddles will spawn from nothing at random location each year.

Those who live in flooding area will know how it is supposed to be.

[t0panka]

Similarly, it is also in myth that puddles will spawn from nothing at random location each year.

Those who live in flooding area will know how it is supposed to be.

Those are not from floods but from heavy rain ... floods come from rivers dude and we are living on islands .)

[Mday]

Those are not from floods but from heavy rain ... floods come from rivers dude and we are living on islands .)

Are you suggesting that heavy rain can flood the whole island?

Island can have puddle, but those puddle won't flood the whole island.

[t0panka]

Are you suggesting that heavy rain can flood the whole island?

Island can have puddle, but those puddle won't flood the whole island.

Are you suggesting that those are from rivers? Maybe tsunami?

Also are you suggesting that this game should be 1:1 to real life?

[GiddyGuy]

heavy rain

J-J-JA-JASON! JASON! JASON!...can I get my overused joke award now?

[Mday]

Are you suggesting that those are from rivers? Maybe tsunami?

Also are you suggesting that this game should be 1:1 to real life?

Those are from rain, which is exactly why it shouldn't work like that.

To me, at least it should make *some sense*. Golden axe make no sense but it is fine because it is fun. Puddle like this isn't fun non does it make any sense. Simple as that.

 

Like I said before, either

1) remove the puddle. Add wetness to structure, and disable structure base on wetness.

2) keep the puddle but change how it works. No more random puddle location/ spread that cover the whole island/ add filler to remove puddles.

 

And please stop telling me this is how puddle/sandbag works IRL. Non of these are facts so enough of that.

J-J-JA-JASON! JASON! JASON!...can I get my overused joke award now?

love that game

[t0panka]

Those are from rain, which is exactly why it shouldn't work like that.

To me, at least it should make *some sense*. Golden axe make no sense but it is fine because it is fun. Puddle like this isn't fun non does it make any sense. Simple as that.

 

Like I said before, either

1) remove the puddle. Add wetness to structure, and disable structure base on wetness.

2) keep the puddle but change how it works. No more random puddle location/ spread that cover the whole island/ add filler to remove puddles.

 

And please stop telling me this is how puddle/sandbag works IRL. Non of these are facts so enough of that.

love that game

There has been no heavy rain where you live? Because this is EXACTLY how it works IRL and also stop comparing game to real life PLZ. They should just delete that sandbag function for puddles! DONE

 

OK lets say they do what you are asking ... WHAT NOW? What is the challenge of monsoon season? It is crappy season anyway as it is now and NOONE has problems go trough it. You can't use crockpot? Just build another one. You cant farm honey from beeboxes in winter? ... OH WAIT you cant do anything to fix this! O.o

 

And i really don't know where is logic in building walls around your base and expecting that raining in your base wont make puddles This make sense to you?

 

Also i see NOONE protesting against one hat that gives you 100% water protection when you are standing in water Features that have no logic and makes your gameplay easy are ok with real life but raining so much that ground can't keep up with eating water and creating puddles is problem

[Mday]

There has been no heavy rain where you live? Because this is EXACTLY how it works IRL and also stop comparing game to real life PLZ. They should just delete that sandbag function for puddles! DONE

 

OK lets say they do what you are asking ... WHAT NOW? What is the challenge of monsoon season? It is crappy season anyway as it is now and NOONE has problems go trough it. You can't use crockpot? Just build another one. You cant farm honey from beeboxes in winter? ... OH WAIT you cant do anything to fix this! O.o

 

And i really don't know where is logic in building walls around your base and expecting that raining in your base wont make puddles This make sense to you?

 

Also i see NOONE protesting against one hat that gives you 100% water protection when you are standing in water Features that have no logic and makes your gameplay easy are ok with real life but raining so much that ground can't keep up with eating water and creating puddles is problem

1) There is which is why I know how it works.

2) What is the different? You have disabled base, you can spawn mosquitoes from something else. I dont see much different

3) That does. Because water flow toward lower ground naturally. Either

a) You have three side of the base surrounded with sandbag, which should stop water flowing into your base from the surrounding high ground. Then you leave one side open where the water can go, In this case this should be the side facing the open sea which is the lowest ground. If your base is the lower ground comparing to the sea then your base should have floods from the sea all year round and not puddle from the rain. or

b) If your base is surrounded by high ground form all side, then sandbag walls will reduce the water intake from the surrounding. People will then use a water pump to pump out water within the protected area.

 

That is how it works IRL.

No offence intended, may I ask your education background?

 

 

[Mday]

OK lets say they do what you are asking ... WHAT NOW? What is the challenge of monsoon season? 

Also I could never understand this logic.

"We needed the challenge so please keep everything non sense in the game."

 

If you find the puddle interesting and you wana keep it for it is fun then that's fine by me. There isn't much point in auguring whether something is interesting or not as it is up to the individual person to judge.

 

However what people is saying is that the puddle should stay the same because it is challenging.

 

Like, really?

Like, can't we just take away the non sense and make something different for the added challenge?

 

And it is not like a few mosquitoes and the water over the whole island is much of a challenge already. Hell from my experience it is more challenging to set up a base with 80 sandbag by day 40, than to just sail away from land for the whole season. No it is not impossible. Yes it takes away a lot of time where it can be used on something else say explore the world. In my latest playthrough, if I know there will be four puddles, in which each takes 10 sandbag to magically disable, I won't even bother making 20 sandbags pre-season. If you wanted a challenge than that mosquitoes spawning mechanism need to be changed too. 1 mosquitoes at a time just aren't that much of fun.

 

That whole volcanic meteor showers issue is at a similar situation. Keep the nerf and make new challenge is the better way to go. Yet people could only find one way to keep the challenge that is to bring back the old meteor shower which bored me to bed every time.

[Mday]

You cant farm honey from beeboxes in winter?

BTW, ROG or SW, I can get honey all season. Just need to kill some bees.

Either game I rarely needed honey.

 

ROG, it is winter by day 20 and then there is spring. And in summer there is a risk of burning bees flying all over the place. So ever since ROG I rarely build any bee box. Just kill a few bees as I come across and I will have a few honey in my ice box. This season I have say 7 honey, 2 seasons later I will have 7 rots in my ice box. Same deal goes with farms/berry bushes. Never get used to farming since ROG.

[t0panka]

1) There is which is why I know how it works.

2) What is the different? You have disabled base, you can spawn mosquitoes from something else. I dont see much different

3) That does. Because water flow toward lower ground naturally. Either

a) You have three side of the base surrounded with sandbag, which should stop water flowing into your base from the surrounding high ground. Then you leave one side open where the water can go, In this case this should be the side facing the open sea which is the lowest ground. If your base is the lower ground comparing to the sea then your base should have floods from the sea all year round and not puddle from the rain. or

b) If your base is surrounded by high ground form all side, then sandbag walls will reduce the water intake from the surrounding. People will then use a water pump to pump out water within the protected area.

 

That is how it works IRL.

No offence intended, may I ask your education background?

My education tells me that if you have no roof you will get wet and with heavy rain you will have puddles under your feet AND walls around you (still no roof) doesnt help with anything. 

 

That is how it works IRL.

No offence intended, may I ask your education background?

 

 

Also I could never understand this logic.

"We needed the challenge so please keep everything non sense in the game."

 

If you find the puddle interesting and you wana keep it for it is fun then that's fine by me. There isn't much point in auguring whether something is interesting or not as it is up to the individual person to judge.

 

However what people is saying is that the puddle should stay the same because it is challenging.

 

Like, really?

Like, can't we just take away the non sense and make something different for the added challenge?

 

And it is not like a few mosquitoes and the water over the whole island is much of a challenge already. Hell from my experience it is more challenging to set up a base with 80 sandbag by day 40, than to just sail away from land for the whole season. No it is not impossible. Yes it takes away a lot of time where it can be used on something else say explore the world. In my latest playthrough, if I know there will be four puddles, in which each takes 10 sandbag to magically disable, I won't even bother making 20 sandbags pre-season. If you wanted a challenge than that mosquitoes spawning mechanism need to be changed too. 1 mosquitoes at a time just aren't that much of fun.

 

That whole volcanic meteor showers issue is at a similar situation. Keep the nerf and make new challenge is the better way to go. Yet people could only find one way to keep the challenge that is to bring back the old meteor shower which bored me to bed every time.

 

YES i am for more features in every season that makes it a little more challenging (or a lot with big reward) Klei changed those meteors because other part of that feature is not yet implemented ... they will change it back when adding that feature .)

 

[Mday]

My education tells me that if you have no roof you will get wet and with heavy rain you will have puddles under your feet AND walls around you (still no roof) doesnt help with anything. 

 

That is how it works IRL.

No offence intended, may I ask your education background?

I have an engineering degree which tells me how sandbags and flooding works.

Now it is your turn.

 

Something tells me you have saw puddles IRL before and hence you think every place in earth when there is rain there will be puddles appearing randomly.

 

I bet you aren't even 18 yo :C

[Mday]

Have you ever watch the movie Cast Away? It should give you an idea how tropical island IRL looks and why you won't see puddles that cover the whole island.

[t0panka]

I have an engineering degree which tells me how sandbags and flooding works.

Now it is your turn.

 

Something tells me you have saw puddles IRL before and hence you think every place in earth when there is rain there will be puddles appearing randomly.

 

I bet you aren't even 18 yo :C

Looks like you start to be rude so i stop here and if you are curious i am 10 years older than you and thats old enough to not throw my degree here and there .)

[Mday]

Looks like you start to be rude so i stop here and if you are curious i am 10 years older than you and thats old enough to not throw my degree here and there .)

I am being rude? Sorry if I make you think so. You asked me a question first and I answered nicely.

I wonder how in earth you possibly know my age.

I asked you nicely your edu background so please just tell me. You aren't throwing your degree by merely answering a question.

[Mday]

In case you wondering why I ask you your edu background and why I have a feeling that you aren't even 18 yo.

It is because you seems to believe that rain alone contributes to the formation of puddles and terrain is disregarded entity from that matter.

I need to know that you are old/educated enough to understand what I may present as explanation on how things IRL is.

After all, I won't except a 10 yo to understand these all and won't bother explaining if you are indeed that young.

[CammoAmmo]

While those two argue, there is a thread somewhere on here that has a perfect way to deal with the puddles. I can't find it at the moment, but I will try to explain without any pictures as I cannot get any at the moment...

Before the season starts, gather around 3-4 stacks of sandbags (3 is probably fine). When the first rain comes, spend the duration of it placing a sandbag on each of the four outer tiles. As you know, the puddles all spawn in the first rain in small ones and expand with every rain. The first ones look like this:

x

xxx

x

If you cover the 4 outer x's with sandbags, the puddle will no longer spread, and you have now conquered monsoon season

If your base is already flooded however, I have no clue how to deal with that xD Good luck!

EDIT: My diagram failed because of formatting so just imagine that those top and bottom rows of x's are right over the middle x in the middle row.

[GiddyGuy]

2 seasons later I will have 7 rots in my ice box

 I think the plural is "rot"

I bet you aren't even 18 yo :C

 

After all, I won't except a 10 yo to understand these all and won't bother explaining if you are indeed that young.

Why does age matter do you really think you're high and mighty being older than someone? If anything you're being little immature caring about other peoples ages.

Have you ever watch the movie Cast Away? It should give you an idea how tropical island IRL looks and why you won't see puddles that cover the whole island.

Cause as we know all movies are always accurate!

[Mday]

 I think the plural is "rot"

 

 

 

 

 

Why does age matter do you really think you're high and mighty being older than someone? If anything you're being little immature caring about other peoples ages.

 

 

Cause as we know all movies are always accurate!

 

When it comes to logic and etc,  age and education does matter right? Otherwise we should be seething 10yo attending uni, working at NASA right?

 

Everyone start off as a baby, there is no shame about it. However like it or not, there are things that a kid won't understand and this topic I'm afraid is just one of those.

 

P.S. You sound like the game is always accurate. Just in case you are interested, here is some info on the island featured in the movie

http://www.theexpeditioner.com/2012/08/07/where-was-the-cast-away-island-tom-hanks-was-stuck-on/

 

Edit 2: BTW, good movie too! Strongly recommend it.

[Mday]

While those two argue, there is a thread somewhere on here that has a perfect way to deal with the puddles. I can't find it at the moment, but I will try to explain without any pictures as I cannot get any at the moment...

Before the season starts, gather around 3-4 stacks of sandbags (3 is probably fine). When the first rain comes, spend the duration of it placing a sandbag on each of the four outer tiles. As you know, the puddles all spawn in the first rain in small ones and expand with every rain. The first ones look like this:

x

xxx

x

If you cover the 4 outer x's with sandbags, the puddle will no longer spread, and you have now conquered monsoon season

If your base is already flooded however, I have no clue how to deal with that xD Good luck!

EDIT: My diagram failed because of formatting so just imagine that those top and bottom rows of x's are right over the middle x in the middle row.

In my last game the 4 puddles I've near my base are 3x3 (so total 9 tiles each). It spawned on screen while I'm at base. Also I think you have to actually cover the middle of the puddles as well (not sure about this, but I bet the middle tile can spread through the sandbag too). 

If the base is already flooded, then either go explore somewhere or deal with it and use umbrella+ hats. Wait for the season end. Not much you can do about it really.

[GiddyGuy]

P.S. You sound like the game is always accurate. Just in case you are interested, here is some info on the island featured in the movie

When did I ever say videogames were accurate I just came to say how immature you were acting and I think you should act a little nicer, but no you just had put words in my mouth and go overboard to prove your right, and you know what I think I'll be the bigger man here and just leave this conversation.

 

P.S. Please respond so I can laugh at how much you want to prove how right you want to be.

[Mday]

When did I ever say videogames were accurate I just came to say how immature you were acting and I think you should act a little nicer, but no you just had put words in my mouth and go overboard to prove your right, and you know what I think I'll be the bigger man here and just leave this conversation.

 

P.S. Please respond so I can laugh at how much you want to prove how right you want to be.

You know, I don't give a damn to "who" is right. Most people at my age won't give too much to that kinda thing.

It is not about how right I am. There are things I know and I'm willing to share it. You questioned the accuracy of that movie, I give you the link. Calling it immature? Whatever.