Endorsing suggestions

[Ran]

I was thinking, there's a lot of suggestions coming and going, some get a lot of messages, some get few, but that's not always a mark of being a good or bad (or rather, accepted or rejected) suggestion. Some suggestion might be accepted by most, but since there's simply nothing to discuss further, it just vanishes into the back pages of the forums. I know the devs read the forums and all, but let's face it, threads with a ton of comments and feedback and whatnot are more likely to get noticed and paid more attention to.So what I was thinking is we could have some sort of "highlighted suggestions" system, where people would "endorse" a suggestion or something, so with enough endorsements the thread would be stickied and it wouldn't get lost in the forums. Or maybe just put in the compilation thread BUT with an actual link to it. This would be simply so people can always keep giving feedback about the most accepted suggestions and the devs can see what everyone thinks about em.Keep in mind endorsing a suggestion wouldn't be about just loving everything about it and agreeing completely with it, it'd be about liking the concept and wanting to see it in the game, even if you think it should have many things different than what the original poster said.That's the gist of it.

[Rainbow Knight]

...Excelent Suggestion...We really need to sort the ones that will be good/told by devs that will confirm it will be in the game.

So thats,

+10/10

From me.

[Rainbow Knight]

Looks like this is going to be burried too..

[Karisuto]

I was thinking, there's a lot of suggestions coming and going, some get a lot of messages, some get few, but that's not always a mark of being a good or bad (or rather, accepted or rejected) suggestion. Some suggestion might be accepted by most, but since there's simply nothing to discuss further, it just vanishes into the back pages of the forums. I know the devs read the forums and all, but let's face it, threads with a ton of comments and feedback and whatnot are more likely to get noticed and paid more attention to.So what I was thinking is we could have some sort of "highlighted suggestions" system, where people would "endorse" a suggestion or something, so with enough endorsements the thread would be stickied and it wouldn't get lost in the forums. Or maybe just put in the compilation thread BUT with an actual link to it. This would be simply so people can always keep giving feedback about the most accepted suggestions and the devs can see what everyone thinks about em.Keep in mind endorsing a suggestion wouldn't be about just loving everything about it and agreeing completely with it, it'd be about liking the concept and wanting to see it in the game, even if you think it should have many things different than what the original poster said.That's the gist of it.

I asked the moderators (and Devs indirectly) something similar a couple of days ago.(Posting on this thread as well:)Just A Heads-Up To You "Suggesters"They are not very fond of the idea. They know what has been posted and don't mind things getting to the bottom. In fact they clearly stated to me that they actually do not want threads at the bottom bumping back up (because it's old, they know about it already, etc). So they didn't gave me permission to make a thread/sticky to revive old posts/threads and to make thread compilations.If you want to check old threads/all suggestions check out Moonphos' sticky, they gave him permission to make a thread wich includes as many ideas as possible:[Compilation] All suggestions, from everyone.If some ideas are not included, ask moonphos to update it.Kind regards, Karisuto

[Toaster Fu]

Since this seems to be a popular idea I'll bring it up again with the other mods and Devs (keep in mind that the Devs are gone until January 2).:)And how would you handle people who DON'T like a suggestion? Say 5 people like it but, 10 people don't?

[Rainbow Knight]

Hmm..I guess you could remove it from being highlighted..But certainly,it would be a section where you could read the Good suggestions.

[Toaster Fu]

What about big wall of text suggestions? A lot of people don't read them so, it doesn't really matter if it's a good idea because, not enough people will read them to vote it up.Just trying to make sure something like this would work.

[Ran]

Looks like this is going to be burried too..

Sorry, been sorta gone all day

I asked the moderators (and Devs indirectly) something similar a couple of days ago.(Posting on this thread as well:)Just A Heads-Up To You "Suggesters"They are not very fond of the idea. They know what has been posted and don't mind things getting to the bottom. In fact they clearly stated to me that they actually do not want threads at the bottom bumping back up (because it's old, they know about it already, etc). So they didn't gave me permission to make a thread/sticky to revive old posts/threads and to make thread compilations.If you want to check old threads/all suggestions check out Moonphos' sticky, they gave him permission to make a thread wich includes as many ideas as possible:[Compilation] All suggestions, from everyone.If some ideas are not included, ask moonphos to update it.Kind regards, Karisuto

Yeah, I know about the compilation thread, but it definitely needs links to work better. Just having the name of an idea there doesn't do much, people want to go and give their opinions on it.In the end all that matters is that the devs check em all and people can give feedback. As long as that happens, guess it doesn't really matter where the thread ends up.

And how would you handle people who DON'T like a suggestion? Say 5 people like it but, 10 people don't?

Well, I was thinking something like needing X amount of endorsements to get into the "V.I.P." zone There would be no "negative" votes. You either endorse it or don't, no need to do anything for the second. How much? Well, that'd be dependent on how much people we have in the forums and whatnot I guess, something like a percentage of the total amount of active forumers or something like that.

[Toaster Fu]

Then what about things like multiplayer? A lot of people want that…

[Moonphos]

Yeah, I know about the compilation thread, but it definitely needs links to work better. Just having the name of an idea there doesn't do much, people want to go and give their opinions on it.

In the end all that matters is that the devs check em all and people can give feedback. As long as that happens, guess it doesn't really matter where the thread ends up.

There are links in the compilation thread, using this as example...

http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?6116-Endorsing-suggestions

and...

[ url=http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?6116-Endorsing-suggestions ]Ran[/ ul] = Ran

All their names are made into URL links that goes to their thread. Only those with [Compilation] and [Feedback] tagged to their name by the suggests are differently linked.

Because there are some suggests that has over 5 links, it makes the entire thread too clunky if I simply update with html links.

Allow me to show you what happens if I don't hyperlinked to their names.

Items and Crafting

Tools

> Gathering (e.g Axe, Shovel, Pick)

- Multitool/Swiss Army Knife (http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?5088-swiss-army-knife - tommy1)

- Knife (http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?1453-Suggestions-Tools-Structures-Creatures-and-Environmen - Nioki)

- Unbreakable tools (Balthizaur [compilation])

> Disassemble (e.g Hammer)

-

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Light

> Fire (e.g Campfire, Firepit, Torch)

- Candle (http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?3721-Candles - eddrocks2, Balthizaur [compilation])

> Source (e.g Pumpkin Lantern)

-

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Survival

> Offensive Traps (e.g Bird Trap, Bunny Trap)

- Dummies (http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?2593-Humble-Ideas-amp-Suggestions-from-a-Don-t-Starve-Lover-by-GenHavok - GenHavok)

- Bola (http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?2593-Humble-Ideas-amp-Suggestions-from-a-Don-t-Starve-Lover-by-GenHavok - GenHavok)

> Defensive Traps

- Tree Sling/Catapult (http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?4990-Lv3-tree-stump-and-Trees-(non-withered)-Further-interaction - Moonphos, http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?2593-Humble-Ideas-amp-Suggestions-from-a-Don-t-Starve-Lover-by-GenHavok - GenHavok)

- Drop Trap (http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?5129-Defense-Trap-Drop-Fall-pit-3-types - Moonphos)

> Travel (e.g Straw Roll)

- Bandage (http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?1453-Suggestions-Tools-Structures-Creatures-and-Environmen - Nioki)

- Map (ToySolderAlan [compilation])

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Food

> Farm

- Scarecrow (Wirozah, Karisuto, Nioki [compilation], http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?2063-quot-FairyTales-quot-suggestion-pack - ResonanceCrea, http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?2593-Humble-Ideas-amp-Suggestions-from-a-Don-t-Starve-Lover-by-GenHavok - GenHavok)

> Ranching

- Wooden Bucket (http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?3862-Suggestion-Genders-of-beefalo-beefalo-milking-and-breeding - theboneknight, http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?3005-Containers-Furnaces-quot-Potions-quot-And-More! - TylerTheDragon)

- Saddle (http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?3688-Suggestion-Make-a-Beefalo-your-mount-saddle-item-and-barn-structure - theboneknight, Balthizaur [compilation] - Beefalo Mount)

- Carrot-on-a-Stick (Balthizaur [compilation])

- Test Tube/Bottle (http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?3005-Containers-Furnaces-quot-Potions-quot-And-More! - TylerTheDragon )

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Fight

> Weapon (e.g Spear)

- Flintlock Pistol/Rifle (http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?4705-Flink-Lock-pistol - HolyMan504, http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?3894-Ranged-Weapons - MounatinLeemer, http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?3547-A-few-ideas-(Ziduken-s-thread) - ziduken, http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?5113-A-compendium-of-bad-ideas-by-me - Chesska)

- Blunderbuss (http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?4292-Suggestions-Items-Character-Monsters - John)

- Battle Hammer (http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?5401-Battle-Hammer!- tigbits)

- Sword (http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?5856-Loot-Changes-and-Some-Item-Ideas - rapturjesus, http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?5075-New-Weapons - Magic3D2D, http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?1460-Suggestion-on-Weapons-to-Add-and-other-things - lamorta, http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?4818-A-sword - HolyMan504, http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?4691-Co-op-suggestions-and-a-glitch-i-found - HardStyleKnives, http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?2593-Humble-Ideas-amp-Suggestions-from-a-Don-t-Starve-Lover-by-GenHavok - GenHavok, http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?1474-Balthizaur-Multiple-Suggestions - Balthizaur, http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?3437-Completly-New-and-Original-Ideas] - pokeguy8018, http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?2352-Difficulty-food-generation - Satashi26, http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?2122-Impressions-and-Suggestions - zonkobonko)

- Bow (http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?4873-No-bow-just-arrows - Viadis, http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?5696-Bow-and-Arrow - osadat, http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?1460-Suggestion-on-Weapons-to-Add-and-other-things - lamorta, http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?1453-Suggestions-Tools-Structures-Creatures-and-Environmen - Nioki, http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?2639-Long-List-of-Suggestions-from-my-Experiences - Krimbo, http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?2593-Humble-Ideas-amp-Suggestions-from-a-Don-t-Starve-Lover-by-GenHavok - GenHavok)

- Range Weapons (http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?1899-Suggestion-Ranged-weapons-by-tier-and-materials - Dijad)

- Wooden Boomerang (http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?2593-Humble-Ideas-amp-Suggestions-from-a-Don-t-Starve-Lover-by-GenHavok - GenHavok)

- Slingshot (http://forums.kleientertainment.com/showthread.php?5075-New-Weapons - Magic3D2D)

> Armor (e.g Log Suit)

- Shield (shingouki, GenHavok [compilation])

- Leather Armor (GenHavok [compilation])

- More Armor (HardStyleKnives, zonkobonko [feedback] (different element resist) - Cause DS need more Armors!)

> Ammo

- Musket Ball (Chesska [compilation], ammo for Flintlock Pistol)

- Arrow (Viadis (several types), lamorta

> Others

- Unique Weapons (pokeguy8018 [compilation] - in MMORPG terms... PURPLE!)

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Structure

> Housing (e.g Pig House)

- House (slamus132, PaladinHeart, Nioki [compilation], Balthizaur [compilation])

- Fence/Curral (Nioki [compilation], Racaoma [compilation], GenHavok [compilation], Balthizaur [compilation])

> Supply (e.g Chest. Bee Box)

- Metal Chest (genocide, Stops Krampus)

- Bigger Chest/Backpack (rapturjesus)

- Firefly Lure (Nioki [compilation])

- Rabbit Hutch (Nioki [compilation])

- Beefalo Enclosure (Balthizaur [compilation] - Provides manure)

> Structure Entity (e.g Science Machine)

- Bridge Sections (tigbits)

> Aesthetic

- Phonograph (Nioki [compilation], Junkbox)

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Refine

> Creation (e.g Rope)

- Workbench (Balthizaur [compilation])

- Forge (Rainbow Knight)

> Upgrade

- Stump Table (Moonphos, Repairing and Sanity Meter)

- Flint (Chesska [compilation], refined Rocks)

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Magic

> Offensive

- Summons (zonkobonko [feedback])

- Attack Spells (zonkobonko [feedback])

> Defensive (e.g Amulet, Meat Effigy)

- Bee Amulet (Viadis, similar way to the "Bee Mines Bug" exploding in backpack, but amulet)

> Utility

- Teleport/Pad (superaxel, karotix5. Deatheater, Racaoma [compilation] - instant movement between places)

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Dress

> Armor (e.g Football Helmet)

-

> Utility (e.g Mining Helmet)

- Utility Hats (PrincessJane, Hats that turn you friendly to Animals!)

- Storage Hats (Skippy)

- Travel Hat (OMGSPIDERMAN)

- Pig Crown(ToySolderAlan [compilation])

- Pharaoh's Headdress (ToySolderAlan [compilation] - Revival hat)

> Aesthetic (e.g Top Hat)

I give up half way. If you're interested to see how clunky it can get, just click "Reply With Quote" in the compilation thread and see the codes. It gets crazy stupid looking when there are multiple suggestors for 1 item.

Edited December 30, 2012 by Moonphos

[Juistaa]

+1, I agree, a great idea indeed.

[Ran]

Then what about things like multiplayer? A lot of people want that…

But it's already been answered People still need to read "common suggestions" thread before making one. About the compilation thread, I dunno, I think it's honestly a bit too much stuff in there too quick, specially with the first post being purely guidelines. I'm thinking more about just a few select suggestions with a link to that one individual thread, so that every opinion about it goes there. If someone makes a new thread to suggest the same thing, someone else redirects them to the main one about it. And also less of a "generic suggestion categories" kinda list. Right now there's just too much stuff there and this'd be more of a selective thing. Not to mention there wouldn't really be so much work maintaining it that way. It'd be just something like "Bow and Arrow" made into a hyperlink. No need for an explanation, usernames, anything.