LeChuck Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Anyone tried Faust with Central? Faut gives you 2 pwr round but a 20% chance to get a Daemon. Central gives you 5 pwr when you get a Daemon. That's a lot of power at the beginning but you have to handle the Daemons. I am using that combo with Nika. She can use the power... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/53777-faust-central-what-do-you-think/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberboy2000 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I'm doing Faust+Brimstone+Central right now. Also started with Banks because I like her paralyzer and picked up Internationale, lockpick 2.0, portable server 3 and ping on the way. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/53777-faust-central-what-do-you-think/#findComment-636169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheocraticalGoblin Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I'm using Faust with Parasite, and as characters Central and Nika. Why? Because all that power means Nika can keep attacking forever. I've never fell out of power with this build, and I don't even upgrade hacking! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/53777-faust-central-what-do-you-think/#findComment-636208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamGreywind Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Faust + Brimstone + Central + Prism is a huge PWR team. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/53777-faust-central-what-do-you-think/#findComment-636210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberboy2000 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I liked that playthrough. It got really annoying at some points, like when a paradox prevented me from progressing a level at all for a few turns, but it was worth a chance to get the fortune daemon. I did get Nika, and gave her a volt disruptor 3, even though I didn't use it very much, but what I did get was a tag gun, and surprisingly Nika's passive does trigger on the tag gun. I didn't experiment very much with it, but I can imagine that some people can come up with some crazy strategies with that. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/53777-faust-central-what-do-you-think/#findComment-636222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szjara Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Besides the fact I hate playing like a brute (i.e by knocking out everyone I meet), Nika can be an absolute powerhouse with the rights upgrades. Give her +6 AP when knocking out and she'll be able to get more than 30 AP per turn, at the cost of 4 power, simply because of 1. the double attack 2. the fact that the +AP perks get triggered if you use the stun gun on a downed enemy. I had a Nika on Expert with +9 AP on KO, +2 AP per hack, 3 armor penetration and a cloaking rig just to top it off. She managed to singlehandedly bring all three of her downed teammates to the extraction zone (for some reason there was no Nanofabricator on the level, therefore no medgel) in less that 5 turns. The only actual limitations for that strategy is a good Power setup (Brimstone or Fusion and a sidekick like Internationale or Gladstone), and the fact that by stunning everyone, you're basically going all in. It's quite a peculiar playstyle, really. I like a more subtile approach, and I'd love to see we have a more stealth-focused new character tomorrow at release (for instance, someone who doesn't get detected at all when in peripheral vision). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/53777-faust-central-what-do-you-think/#findComment-636691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abardam Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 So good. I am overflowing with power. Once I received Labyrinth 2 rounds in a row, though. That wasn't fun Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/53777-faust-central-what-do-you-think/#findComment-636882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szjara Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Wait till you get 2 Paradoxes in a row Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/53777-faust-central-what-do-you-think/#findComment-637024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abardam Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 oh, GOD. So much power, but you can't use it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/53777-faust-central-what-do-you-think/#findComment-637130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ik1ne Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I did get Nika, and gave her a volt disruptor 3, even though I didn't use it very much, but what I did get was a tag gun, and surprisingly Nika's passive does trigger on the tag gun. I didn't experiment very much with it, but I can imagine that some people can come up with some crazy strategies with that.Sorry for the guards, but I always (ab?)use that passive against downed guards for additional 6 APs(With predictive brawling, more than that).I feel a little bit horror when I command Nika to stun pinned guard twice... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/53777-faust-central-what-do-you-think/#findComment-637160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonseye Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Faust + Central is awesome, but that RNG can most definitely screw you in later levels of Endless. I'd say it's very balanced. High chance of maintaining high power, but that doesn't matter a whole lot since you'll have Incognita locked a LOT more of the time while having credits siphoned from your agency and spawning SO many Enforcers. I like to think of Faust + Central as a more advanced setup. It's super fun, but Fusion + Parasite is still more efficient. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/53777-faust-central-what-do-you-think/#findComment-637164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbeClancy Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 SPOILERS MAY FOLLOW I did an Expert Plus run the other day with Faust + Gladstone + Brimstone. Couple things to note. If you take Gladstone as a starting agent, you don't get an extra free agent on the final mission. Take that into consideration. Faust is nice for the increased power, and usually you only get one or two daemons in a level. But then again, sometimes you get three one after another: Extra enforcer, -2 agent AP, cannot hack for three turns. If you're going Faust, be sure of your capabilities and always assume that on your next turn, you could lose Incognita for three turns. If you're going Faust, you might as well take Brimstone to help offset bad daemons. Expensive on the power, but Faust's +2 per turn is twice as good as the default Power Drip program. And since Brimstone is only 50% less efficient than Lockpick 1.0, you end up with a net positive outlook on your power, without even including Gladstone! And you can pick up better programs in the first mission, then just keep Brimstone for the passive bonus. Works wonderfully. Anyone tried Faust with Central? Faut gives you 2 pwr round but a 20% chance to get a Daemon. Central gives you 5 pwr when you get a Daemon. That's a lot of power at the beginning but you have to handle the Daemons. I am using that combo with Nika. She can use the power... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/53777-faust-central-what-do-you-think/#findComment-637397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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