Gwandic Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 I think that having this would be great, however this is just my opinion. But since the logs scream, (When burned or EATEN by woodie) I assume that it'd be more naughty then killing a bunny. Plus it's somewhat harder to get then a single bunny, so I'd say that if this was like, +2-6 naughtiness, it would make for a great change/update to Living Logs! Plus, I'd also like to say that I personally think that somewhat a lot of the things living logs are easy to get, or too hard to get, so I think that having a + naughtiness would make up for that mid difficulty "section" for what living logs can be used for.... Please tell me what you think of this! Because I certainly think it's a great idea! -Gwandic :EDIT: I'm planning of taking the opinions of the people that have posted in 40 minutes, and make a public suggestion for Klei entertainment. I really hope this is appreciated, or at-least gave some idea for a new update! :Second Edit: There's been a post on suggestions and/or feedback of what I've posted here, I tried to tweak some of my ideas to make it more appealing for all, however, this is still my opinion. Here's a link to the forum post, if you want to see it for yourself. http://forums.kleientertainment.com/topic/29766-living-logs-add-naughtiness-krampus-buff/ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwandic Posted November 16, 2013 Author Share Posted November 16, 2013 I also think, that Krampus is due for an update, like everything else. I read up on the wiki, and one of the comments was talking about how Krampus should be more of a "Punishment" more then a "Omg I hope I get the bag this time". I deeply agree with this, I think that Krampus should be more of a challenge then anything else, which would make easier ways to spawn him more... "Worth it" as to say. I personally would think that having him sit around 2,000 health, 75 damage, and keeps his current speed with a -20/min sanity would be a great way to upgrade Krampus, but also making his drops a bit higher.. (Krampus sack; current 1% placed maybe... 2-10%?) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/#findComment-371266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krac Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 I don't think feel that burning or eating demonic wood is the same as killing innocent, happy, inoffensive animals. I am cool with the Krampus design, is more a lore creature than anything (even is everyone tries to get his bag). If something I think would be great to add with destroying those abominations is a medium sanity loss. If I burn a wood face that screams I think that would affect me somehow Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/#findComment-371269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
puppet_rivers Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 I think it would be great if they just give up -1 naughtiness by minute thing. I mean, naughtiness can be filled by user and by killing krampus it can reset. Getting krampus sack is already very hard and so many people (not everyone) cheat for it by alt+f4. Keep the same ratio but remove cooldown or make it higher. Since you can stack 4 chests of bunnies, wait for sanity to go very low or use necklace and kill alll of them. But if they change it, people can actually play to get it, instead of shortcut methods :/ And I'm sure someone will hate my comment within a mere moment Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/#findComment-371286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 I agree with both points. Right now there's no drawback at all for cutting the living tree. It doesn't even react to you cutting it... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/#findComment-371293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwandic Posted November 16, 2013 Author Share Posted November 16, 2013 I think it would be great if they just give up -1 naughtiness by minute thing. I mean, naughtiness can be filled by user and by killing krampus it can reset. Getting krampus sack is already very hard and so many people (not everyone) cheat for it by alt+f4. Keep the same ratio but remove cooldown or make it higher. Since you can stack 4 chests of bunnies, wait for sanity to go very low or use necklace and kill alll of them. But if they change it, people can actually play to get it, instead of shortcut methods :/ And I'm sure someone will hate my comment within a mere moment..... What I personally want too happen, is that they just simply made it so living logs give off naughtiness, and Krampus is buffed. Simple as that. Tons of new experiences, maybe MORE drops from Krampus depending on the buffs. Going to sleep now. Cya guys tommarow! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/#findComment-371294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyHam Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Ignore this bad idea Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/#findComment-371351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenglacier Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 It is a good idea! A very good! Like. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/#findComment-371372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARamblingSpider Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 I agree with both points. Right now there's no drawback at all for cutting the living tree. It doesn't even react to you cutting it... I was hoping it would be like some slender thing and follow you when you weren't looking and if you went to sleep.. Boy that would've been awesome.Maybe 2 naughtiness for chopping down a living tree and 1 for destroying the log. Also, 2,000 health may be a bit too much. Maybe 525? Edit: NEW IDEA!!! Alright, Krampus now drops Krampus horns and Krampus skin. You need 5 Krampus skins and 2 Krampus horns to craft a Krampus Cloak(Shadow Manipulator). While wearing this your naughtiness drops every 30 seconds and you gain no naughtiness when killing mobs. Krampus is a pushover and is hard to summon, There's no reason for that kind of item. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/#findComment-371447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyHam Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 I was hoping it would be like some slender thing and follow you when you weren't looking and if you went to sleep.. Boy that would've been awesome.Krampus is a pushover and is hard to summon, There's no reason for that kind of item.What if you went on a killing spree and didn't want to bother with Krampus? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/#findComment-371515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARamblingSpider Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 What if you went on a killing spree and didn't want to bother with Krampus? Krampus is a weak pathetic pushover, There's no point of making an item to avoid a enemy that weak. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/#findComment-371519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyHam Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Krampus is a weak pathetic pushover, There's no point of making an item to avoid a enemy that weak.But what if he was buffed? Like what this thread is about? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/#findComment-371521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARamblingSpider Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 But what if he was buffed? Like what this thread is about?Doubt it. Krampus being buffed has been talked about since early july, the closest we've gotten is a mod that hasn't been implanted into the game. http://forums.kleientertainment.com/topic/22334-team-krampusfor-those-who-support-krampusget-a-free-t-shirt-upon-joining-aswell/ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/#findComment-371525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aredshroom Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 I was hoping it would be like some slender thing and follow you when you weren't looking and if you went to sleep.. Boy that would've been awesome.I was thinking earlier if the living tree would glow randomly (like fireflies) as you approached it at night, and have a higher chance of spawning multiple treeguards if you chopped it. xD Regarding burning living logs, I've told you in the stream. But since you wanted me to post my opinion...I think it's a good idea to up the naughtiness for krampus (buffing him is definitely a good idea), along with @puppet_rivers' suggestion of tweaking naughtiness level drop. Well, I think the points should still drop at a slower rate than 1/minute, because if they never did you'd have to fight a krampus every single time you hit 30 points. Personally, I wouldn't burn my living logs (mainly because I'm a hoarder and they're a pretty rare resource to get depending on luck). If this was implemented, I guess it'd be a good way for people to farm krampus with an excess of living logs. After that, idk. I know there are people who like burning them just for the screams. TL;DR, I'm probably gonna sit on the fence for this aside for the krampus buff (refer to Xjurwi's comment on that though). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/#findComment-371536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyHam Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Doubt it. Krampus being buffed has been talked about since early july, the closest we've gotten is a mod that hasn't been implanted into the game. http://forums.kleientertainment.com/topic/22334-team-krampusfor-those-who-support-krampusget-a-free-t-shirt-upon-joining-aswell/Alright, even if he doesn't get a buff, mod or update, he can still be a nuisance. I could easily destroy that son of a goat, but I sure as heck don't wanna deal with him. Mandrakes are finite, so pan flutes durability is valuable, and if i fail to kill him for whatever reason, I might lose valuable stuff. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/#findComment-371542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARamblingSpider Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Alright, even if he doesn't get a buff, mod or update, he can still be a nuisance. I could easily destroy that son of a goat, but I sure as heck don't wanna deal with him. Mandrakes are finite, so pan flutes durability is valuable, and if i fail to kill him for whatever reason, I might lose valuable stuff.You don't need panflutes, Just chase him into a few pigs or near an edge and kill him. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/#findComment-371544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 TIL people use the Pan Flute on Krampus. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/#findComment-371555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARamblingSpider Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 TIL people use the Pan Flute on Krampus.Who wastes a Panflute on him anyway? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/#findComment-371559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyHam Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 I used the pan flute on him . Also what does TIL mean. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/#findComment-371563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARamblingSpider Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 I used the pan flute on him . Also what does TIL mean.Today. I . Learned. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/#findComment-371565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyHam Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Today. I . Learned.Ah. I see. Thank you. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/#findComment-371567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwandic Posted November 16, 2013 Author Share Posted November 16, 2013 Krampus is a weak pathetic pushover, There's no point of making an item to avoid a enemy that weak.But he's SO EASY TO SPAWN, I just think that having him buffed would make up for + Naughtiness from living logs. (which I think would be a good counter for the buff) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/#findComment-371647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the truthseeker Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Right now there's no drawback at all for cutting the living tree. It doesn't even react to you cutting it... Grunting doesn't count? But I disagree with naughtiness and killing monsters. If it drops monster meat or doesn't reproduce because it's a mutant abomination, it ain't innocent because it's a freaking MONSTER. Rooted or not. However, I do support the buffing and more regular challenge of Krampus. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/#findComment-372054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwandic Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share Posted November 17, 2013 Hey guys! In a hour, I'm going to be recapping all the ideas into a new forum post about the ideas, opinions, and criticisms of this forum post! I'll just try and remember and I'm sure the new post will turn out great, and more approved over all! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/#findComment-372191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the truthseeker Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Wot? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29728-living-logs-naughtiness/#findComment-372201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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