Rosten Posted November 3, 2013 Author Share Posted November 3, 2013 Yeah but the normal farm with traps will not yield enough meat for B&E. I think it's easier to make wooden flooring than pig houses.I guess it's easier to make a Spider farm than a Lureplant farm, but good point. Also sometimes feed it to pigs. Never been able to create a farm or anything, mostly because, due to the fact that i can never seem to have a reliable way to deal with deerclops, so he generally breaks everything except a my alchemy machines/dragon fruit farms Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29290-i-thought-default-was-something-for-new-players/page/2/#findComment-360738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Never been able to create a farm or anything, mostly because, due to the fact that i can never seem to have a reliable way to deal with deerclops, so he generally breaks everything except a my alchemy machines/dragon fruit farms Ice Staff + Beefalo Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29290-i-thought-default-was-something-for-new-players/page/2/#findComment-360742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosten Posted November 3, 2013 Author Share Posted November 3, 2013 Ice Staff + BeefaloOhhhhh. So thats how you kill deerclops without extincting your entire workforce herd of beefallo, i usually thought the staves were useless because most of my troubling-encounters are with multiple enemies, but seems like they could come in handy in fights like mactusk and deerclops. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29290-i-thought-default-was-something-for-new-players/page/2/#findComment-360759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the truthseeker Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Yeah tragically saw what happened when you don't have the ice staff before DC spawns. But all players learn. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29290-i-thought-default-was-something-for-new-players/page/2/#findComment-360765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosten Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 Yeah tragically saw what happened when you don't have the ice staff before DC spawns. But all players learn. Deerclops has been terrible, he extincts any and all beefallo hordes i send after him, breaks every pigs face in the general vicinity, and casually steps over toothtraps with no reaction except as if he was getting constantly poked with a tiny needle in the foot. not to mention the fact that he seems immune to the whole BEES! OH GOD NOT THE BEES! situation/ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29290-i-thought-default-was-something-for-new-players/page/2/#findComment-360858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the truthseeker Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Deerclops has been terrible, he extincts any and all beefallo hordes i send after him, breaks every pigs face in the general vicinity, and casually steps over toothtraps with no reaction except as if he was getting constantly poked with a tiny needle in the foot. not to mention the fact that he seems immune to the whole BEES! OH GOD NOT THE BEES! situation/Multiple bee mines help but when placed near beehives and triggered during the day. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29290-i-thought-default-was-something-for-new-players/page/2/#findComment-360866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosten Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 Multiple bee mines help but when placed near beehives and triggered during the day. I'd love to make multiple bee mines to murder anything at any time, except for the fact that i have no idea where people get so many bees >.< -Edit am i the only one who realized that the conversation here is mostly just me and you? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29290-i-thought-default-was-something-for-new-players/page/2/#findComment-360881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the truthseeker Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 I'd love to make multiple bee mines to murder anything at any time, except for the fact that i have no idea where people get so many bees >.< -Edit am i the only one who realized that the conversation here is mostly just me and you?Bees respawn very rapidly both from beehives and bee boxes. They stack up to 20, and after 3-5 Bee Boxes, you really don't have to make more bee boxes per camp, assuming you have about 4 flowers per box. Thus, it's very simple to make bee mines requiring the same amount of bees (4) per mine as bee boxes. Finally, when triggered, any bees not killed are reusable. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29290-i-thought-default-was-something-for-new-players/page/2/#findComment-360887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosten Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 Bees respawn very rapidly both from beehives and bee boxes. They stack up to 20, and after 3-5 Bee Boxes, you really don't have to make more bee boxes per camp, assuming you have about 4 flowers per box. Thus, it's very simple to make bee mines requiring the same amount of bees (4) per mine as bee boxes. Finally, when triggered, any bees not killed are reusable. Hmm.. interesting, the only foreseeable problem would be if a pig or something trips the mine instead of deer clops. i can only imagine THAT mess Edit - Spellcheck'd Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29290-i-thought-default-was-something-for-new-players/page/2/#findComment-360892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the truthseeker Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Hmm.. interesting, the only forseeable problem would be if a pig or something trips the mine instead of deerclops. i can only imagine THATT messYes most pigs don't spawn near the beehive areas. Spiders are iffy, but almost never ever see them in the Beehive grasslands area. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29290-i-thought-default-was-something-for-new-players/page/2/#findComment-360895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosten Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 Yes most pigs don't spawn near the beehive areas. Spiders are iffy, but almost never ever see them in the Beehive grasslands area. Remember the title of this thread? spiders are EVERYWHERE in default + Anyways, usually i try to get my base camp up near a herd of beefalo, if no such luck, then i go out exploring, find a herd, get a beefallo horn and lead them back to my base Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29290-i-thought-default-was-something-for-new-players/page/2/#findComment-360898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the truthseeker Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Remember the title of this thread? spiders are EVERYWHERE in default + Anyways, usually i try to get my base camp up near a herd of beefalo, if no such luck, then i go out exploring, find a herd, get a beefallo horn and lead them back to my baseYes default + is still true with lower spider nest spawning in the beehive grasslands, but not necessarily elsewhere. It can be set up as another "kill zone" area if nearby. Else-wise, it just takes selective mine placement/clearing out a zone of spider nests. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29290-i-thought-default-was-something-for-new-players/page/2/#findComment-360905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosten Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 Yes default + is still true with lower spider nest spawning in the beehive grasslands, but not necessarily elsewhere. It can be set up as another "kill zone" area if nearby. Else-wise, it just takes selective mine placement/clearing out a zone of spider nests. The hard part about clearing out spider nests in default + is that they all start as tier 2, which means by the time you get equipped to destroy them, their tier 3, and burning them down just throws all the spiders out into the wild to kill you even easier Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29290-i-thought-default-was-something-for-new-players/page/2/#findComment-360909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the truthseeker Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 The hard part about clearing out spider nests in default + is that they all start as tier 2, which means by the time you get equipped to destroy them, their tier 3, and burning them down just throws all the spiders out into the wild to kill you even easierShort of the 8 logs and 2 ropes and make the log suit, you come equipped with everything else so it's doable, evening out the balance. Just lay down traps if still having problems or clean them out a little after dusk when they vacate the nests. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29290-i-thought-default-was-something-for-new-players/page/2/#findComment-360912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosten Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 Short of the 8 logs and 2 ropes and make the log suit, you come equipped with everything else so it's doable, evening out the balance. Just lay down traps if still having problems or clean them out a little after dusk when they vacate the nests. Well. i wandered upon the battlegrounds of a beefalo vs. spider war, used that monstermeat to hire some mercenaries and took out 3-4 tier 2 dens Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29290-i-thought-default-was-something-for-new-players/page/2/#findComment-360915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
5raptorboy777 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Default plus is meant to give you a quicker start in a harsher world. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29290-i-thought-default-was-something-for-new-players/page/2/#findComment-361653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Cynicist Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Default plus is meant to give you a quicker start in a harsher world. copyright. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29290-i-thought-default-was-something-for-new-players/page/2/#findComment-361971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the truthseeker Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Default plus is meant to give you a quicker start in a harsher world. That would be a great definition for it in the game settings! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29290-i-thought-default-was-something-for-new-players/page/2/#findComment-362454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplex Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 That would be a great definition for it in the game settings! Agreed! We need to create a suggestion thread. I have a feeling this will be implemented in no time! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29290-i-thought-default-was-something-for-new-players/page/2/#findComment-362457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_Perry Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Agreed! We need to create a suggestion thread. I have a feeling this will be implemented in no time!woah, they just then did it, damn they good!just wanted to stop it before people started actually believing that... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29290-i-thought-default-was-something-for-new-players/page/2/#findComment-362461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplex Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 woah, they just then did it, damn they good! Klei is psychic. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/29290-i-thought-default-was-something-for-new-players/page/2/#findComment-362469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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