Spoony Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I have been playing the preset lights out which allows eternal night for a while now and after several attempts managed to survive 100 days+. This preset is one of the hardest setting for don't starve. Its harder than living in caves or ruins and very difficult to survive. There are: no pigsno seedsno birds so no birdcage or farmsno beesno butterflies The only way to make food is berries, carrots, fish from ponds, frog legs from merman, meat from walrus/koalafant and alot of monster meat. There are still tallbirds and their eggs though. But food is not the main issue. Sanity is a huge problem because you will be running around with the miner hat which means you wont have much time to wear the tophat. You will need to survive till winter to hunt Tom's shanter or else u will go insane. I used wicklebottom as my char but i believe maxwell or willow would be easier. With this setting, the map doesn't seem to have the things so the only way to get the gears is from ruins or graves. It does get boring after a while since there isn't much to make. My first tip for anyone trying to play this is to find a lv1 spider den first and destroy it to make 2 silk. Then craft the miner hat with the firefly u catch with the bug net and you will have an easier time. Running around with the torch has very poor visibility and doesn't last very long. A good base would be near buffalos for their meat or near ponds. If you dig up rabbit holes at night, the rabbits will come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaicCitron Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Hi!Interesting topic !I think that you can make your own pig by building a pig house and then destroying it. A pig will spawn from his destroyed house.He will follow you as long as you have a light source with you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FDru Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 You need pig skins to make a pig house. Unless you found a bunch of touchstones, that's a horrendously inefficient use of pig skins. Breaking an existing pig house with a hammer should spawn one pig though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 The pig will be asleep and the resource is just temporary. Pengulls are also asleep and u can't make gunpowder since they dont lay eggs at nite. Everything is quite scarce and getting resources requires light so its pretty much very resource constraint way to play. I have not met deerclops yet n i wonder if it comes at nite time. Winter is truly harsh with frozen ponds and berries don't regrow. Hunting that koalafant is your only hope of survival and hunting at nite in a dense forest with limited light is almost impossible. I had to burn so many trees down to see the footprint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Don't caves make this trivial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battal Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I've seen people survive a lot longer than 100 days on Lights Out. And how did you get those ponds so close together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplex Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Don't caves make this trivial? You're so condescending! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 I've seen people survive a lot longer than 100 days on Lights Out. And how did you get those ponds so close together? Most biome has ponds close together. Going to caves in lights out is alot different since its total darkness from the start. Just getting enough resources and keeping sanity with full night from the start is hard enough. Try craft your miner hat in lights out, that alone is enough to restart a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Most biome has ponds close together. Going to caves in lights out is alot different since its total darkness from the start. Just getting enough resources and keeping sanity with full night from the start is hard enough. Try craft your miner hat in lights out, that alone is enough to restart a few times.You forget that with prototyping you can keep your sanity up easily enough to get in the caves. Once you're there it's downhill as it's full of night only mobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the truthseeker Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 And pigskins can be found in swamp poles as well, but it's still hella-hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Cynicist Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Hound waves later on must be a nightmare... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Dawg Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I have been playing the preset lights out which allows eternal night for a while now and after several attempts managed to survive 100 days+. This preset is one of the hardest setting for don't starve. Its harder than living in caves or ruins and very difficult to survive. There are: no pigsno seedsno birds so no birdcage or farmsno beesno butterflies The only way to make food is berries, carrots, fish from ponds, frog legs from merman, meat from walrus/koalafant and alot of monster meat. There are still tallbirds and their eggs though. But food is not the main issue. Sanity is a huge problem because you will be running around with the miner hat which means you wont have much time to wear the tophat. You will need to survive till winter to hunt Tom's shanter or else u will go insane. I used wicklebottom as my char but i believe maxwell or willow would be easier. With this setting, the map doesn't seem to have the things so the only way to get the gears is from ruins or graves. It does get boring after a while since there isn't much to make. My first tip for anyone trying to play this is to find a lv1 spider den first and destroy it to make 2 silk. Then craft the miner hat with the firefly u catch with the bug net and you will have an easier time. Running around with the torch has very poor visibility and doesn't last very long. A good base would be near buffalos for their meat or near ponds. If you dig up rabbit holes at night, the rabbits will come out.Nice setting. Happy to see some peeps still look for creating their own difficulty instead of *asking* for the game to be more difficult w/out modifying their world settings and mods! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annymosa Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Wow! I call that an achievement. I tried the lights-out, but I couldn't live long enough to make a torch. How did you manage to make a torch fast enough with Wickerbottom? I suppose it would be a lot easier to play this setting with Willow's lighter, but the challenges down the road (little food, miserably hard winter, little visibility and constant sanity drops to name a few) keep me from wanting to give this a serious attempt. Now that you've shown that it's possible, I might give it a try. I'm a big fan of making the game's environment harder, without necessarily increasing the number of hostile mobs. I can't quite decide what's more challenging between permawinter and permadark, but thanks for sharing your experience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2r Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Well done. But how did you get the Tam? I thought MacTusk doesn't spawn at night? As for some unrelated personal rambling. Personally, when I play Lights Out, I like to make added challenge - so I set it to start in winter, and set it to "Long Winter" (eternal's a bit much). I also set Deerclops to "More" and disable caves, but I set carrots and boons to "Lots" to compensate for the added difficulty. Generally I try to find the things ASAP. I've never made it past Day 20, because Deerclops always shows up and tears me in half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the truthseeker Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Well done. But how did you get the Tam? I thought MacTusk doesn't spawn at night? As for some unrelated personal rambling. Personally, when I play Lights Out, I like to make added challenge - so I set it to start in winter, and set it to "Long Winter" (eternal's a bit much). I also set Deerclops to "More" and disable caves, but I set carrots and boons to "Lots" to compensate for the added difficulty. Generally I try to find the things ASAP. I've never made it past Day 20, because Deerclops always shows up and tears me in half. Well, if you want practice i suggest starting on the Doorway to Adventure, dying and resetting (if needed) until you first get "King of Winter" as your "first challenge." Actually my favorite one to both "get out of the way first," and to "get the winter stuff like the Cane and Tam" for my future travels. And now, back to Lights Out. I too am wondering how you get a torch ready in time on day 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 Well, if you want practice i suggest starting on the Doorway to Adventure, dying and resetting (if needed) until you first get "King of Winter" as your "first challenge." Actually my favorite one to both "get out of the way first," and to "get the winter stuff like the Cane and Tam" for my future travels. And now, back to Lights Out. I too am wondering how you get a torch ready in time on day 1? There should be a campfire ready when u start with this preset or have they taken it out. There should be enough grass and twigs to make a torch at the start with that fire but u need alot of torches before you can even find a spider den or start prototyping. Since its dark, you are losing like 40 sanity per day so u need to eat alot of flowers and keep searching for resources. Walrus wakes up at nite and you can hunt them. They dont roam yet till you get the wolf's attention. Since there are multiple walrus camps now, it makes it a little easier to get the shanter but trying to hunt walrus at nite in winter is not easy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the truthseeker Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 As noted I mentioned their quote for WINTER not DARKNESS. There should be a campfire ready when u start with this preset or have they taken it out. There should be enough grass and twigs to make a torch at the start with that fire but u need alot of torches before you can even find a spider den or start prototyping. Since its dark, you are losing like 40 sanity per day so u need to eat alot of flowers and keep searching for resources. Walrus wakes up at nite and you can hunt them. They dont roam yet till you get the wolf's attention. Since there are multiple walrus camps now, it makes it a little easier to get the shanter but trying to hunt walrus at nite in winter is not easy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2r Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 But as I said - isn't it impossible to get the Tam in 24 hour darkness? I've never seen MacTuck come out at night. As for starting in Winter - it's not a problem. It's getting attacked by Deerclops in pitch dark on Day 20 before I have heavy guns and armour to deal with him that's killer for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueMisfit Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 This sounds hard,, I can't imagine playing the whole game with no sun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 But as I said - isn't it impossible to get the Tam in 24 hour darkness? I've never seen MacTuck come out at night. As for starting in Winter - it's not a problem. It's getting attacked by Deerclops in pitch dark on Day 20 before I have heavy guns and armour to deal with him that's killer for me.To get him out you have to attack the hounds that sleep outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the truthseeker Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 To get him out you have to attack the hounds that sleep outside. Well duh to me: I never though of (in normal games) attacking them when night and them sleeping outside so I learned something about their triggers and night. Still wondering (for everybody) how you get light in time for Day 1 though (eg torch before Charlie?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeoSS69 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Still wondering (for everybody) how you get light in time for Day 1 though (eg torch before Charlie?)Have you tried the preset? You get materials for torches and campfires from the start. Kind of like with the 5th AM world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the truthseeker Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 *Slaps head* Silly me, always thought presets were for beginning players to the point I by default overlooked them. Of course it's just necessary for this challenge though! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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