What's your go to food for max morale + little to no dupe effort?

[BLACKBERREST3]

Had to go digging a bit, but it looks like kitchen menace/shriveled tastebud combined with surf&turf gives you the max morale bonus in the game and you can at least get bbq infinitely in a single tile with wild hatches. You can also fit more sanishells on a single tile with an open ranch design since they are not limited by pool size unlike pacu. Since both can be infinitely printed by save scumming (pokeshell have to be printed one at a time, no eggs).

 

Hold on...when the h*ll did I post this? such a weird feeling when you find a post you have no memory on XD. I followed a series a links to an old post.

Maybe there is an efficient way to use sanishells up to the critter cap of an asteroid or even confined without debuffs like my old post. I'll have to do some more tests, but any more info on pokeshell and sanishell mechanics are greatly appreciated. I think pokeshells lay an egg before death, so taming+confined is also an option.

Unless I'm missing something, I think this is the best source of food in the game and it doesn't require any duplicant intervention whatsoever if set up properly + it can be scaled infinitely without taking up extra space.

[Tranoze]

1 hour ago, BLACKBERREST3 said:

kitchen menace/shriveled tastebud combined with 

Hiring only kitchen menace and tastebud already took way too much effort compare to make a wild lettuce farm for that literally please everyone.
And for lower quality food,  with the ability to never spoil, fast to cook and have decent enough morale for space dupe.

I always go for these 2 no brainer food.

1 hour ago, BLACKBERREST3 said:

 surf&turf

To make surf tuft you need to cook surf, then cook turf, then cook surf turf, that 3 cooking errands, that way too much dupe effort.

[BLACKBERREST3]

4 minutes ago, Tranoze said:

that way too much dupe effort

🤦‍♂️ you’re right, I completely forgot about the cooking task. I think for any food that is still required though. Also, I just realized that both kitchen menace and shriveled tastebud stack, so in theory only barbecue is needed. It seems only omeletts can be cooked automatically without the grill, but that also requires manual dupe ranching as well. If you were able to cook barbecue over a volcano, that would be a game changer.

[Tranoze]

10 minutes ago, BLACKBERREST3 said:

🤦‍♂️ you’re right, I completely forgot about the cooking task. I think for any food that is still required though. Also, I just realized that both kitchen menace and shriveled tastebud stack, so in theory only barbecue is needed. It seems only omeletts can be cooked automatically without the grill, but that also requires manual dupe ranching as well. If you were able to cook barbecue over a volcano, that would be a game changer.

some food require 2 food task some only require 1, and 1 is definitely better because you can set up easy conveyer rail system.

For me personally, i only hire 20 dupes max and some extra critter (for my potato pc, hire more = more lag = game slow = everything slow, no reason to hire more when dupe just stand still half a day to look for job that right next to him) so i prefer plant based foods, as they require much less resources to keep, give high morale and give extra buff in some cases.

[goboking]

If you're looking to min/max food morale, I see no reason not to make pepper bread.  It's superb quality, made with two easily farmed ingredients, and doesn't require intermediate cooking stations.

[BLACKBERREST3]

57 minutes ago, goboking said:

If you're looking to min/max food morale, I see no reason not to make pepper bread.  It's superb quality, made with two easily farmed ingredients, and doesn't require intermediate cooking stations.

Farming usually requires physical space, but you can stack critters infinitely as long as you can ranch them in confined space and they lay an egg before death. I was also trying to limit the amount of physical tiles used so I could use that space for other builds. Unless I stack them all together with a pip exploit, but I forget if this is repeatable or not on the same tile. This was the only post I could find on that exploit. Seems clustering pips together takes a bit more setup and effort than just ranching infinite pokeshells or hatches.

I've never had this question answered yet, but how many traits are possible in the printer pod? I know dupes can have at least 3 traits max and it is random based on "trait balance" for what you get, but I don't actually know the limits. Is it possible to get kitchen menace + shriveled tastebud + super-duperhard digging + unpracticed artist all on the same dupe? I've never seen more than 3 traits. If that's the case, I think shriveled tastebud might be better lategame than one of the rare pre-learned skills as that is a +4 morale over the dicounted +3 morale.

Edited 12 hours ago by BLACKBERREST3

[Simonova]

I like berry sludge, not just for relatively high morale compared to simplicity, but also because it's very easy to move in bulk and feed to the resin tree.

[Tranoze]

3 hours ago, BLACKBERREST3 said:

Farming usually requires physical space,

You can farm physical space by melting rocket. They are isolated from outside world heat, have liquid/gas port, have extra radiation from space, provide extra power from solar panel inside them.

[blakemw]

There's a few, depending on world.

Berry Sludge is always fantastic.

Pepper Bread is probably my preferred late game food. It's easy to grow and only a single cooking action.

Calamari is pretty good in Aquatic. You just kill the squid (can easily use cold-scalding) and it drops 9600 kcal of +3 quality food, it's like BBQ without the need for a cooking action. Doesn't really get lower effort than that. It is specific to Aquatic though.

[BLACKBERREST3]

42 minutes ago, Tranoze said:

You can farm physical space by melting rocket.

You can melt rocket interior for space?!? 👀     Ah, you can "melt" it.

[Tranoze]

34 minutes ago, BLACKBERREST3 said:

You can melt rocket interior for space?!? 👀     Ah, you can "melt" it.

That is way too slow to melt entire rocket, 3 days per tile. Nowadays with the new "relocate to" mechanic, you can put 800~1600 kg of liquid uranium inside rocket, with 10 kg of liquid uranium already emptied to ground for faster heat transfer, you can melt the entire rocket in few days.

Back then melt rocket was slow because there are no liquid uranium and you have to use liquid steel, and other than the liquid uranium, you have to heat pipe up to transfer heat to rocket. But with relocate to, all heat is transfered to rocket without loss.

And liquid uranium also can be reheat, then use empty storage action on metal refinery to get bottled form.
This is how simple it is to heat uranium to 4000C

Edited 7 hours ago by Tranoze