[Game Update] - 735984

[V2C]

A few quick fixes, mainly affecting Portation Orb Fragment economy.  Keep in mind that we may revisit the tuning in the future, when you actually have to complete a post Shadow Rift questline before the Sanctum resets.

For those wondering, I think there may be a small update when Cawnival returns, but the next main update we're working on is the Shadow update Part 2.

Bug Fixes

• Fixed repaired Sanctum Waymarks not properly reverting back to broken state during Sanctum reset.
• Fixed bug where you could “deconstruct” a Portation Orb Fragment back into a whole Portation Orb.
• Fixed crash when Shadow Creatures spawn in the Sanctum.

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[Edible Coal]

Just now, V2C said:

Fixed bug where you could “deconstruct” a Portation Orb Fragment back into a whole Portation Orb.

 

i cried

[X-lem]

Sooo, ahhh, ya'll know it's Saturday right? 

[Jenny 05 Justic]

1 hour ago, V2C said:

Fixed bug where you could “deconstruct” a Portation Orb Fragment back into a whole Portation Orb.

 

 

No, you shouldn't treat this as a bug. Items like Dragon Scale Flooring have always been deconstructable to yield more raw materials — why do you always impose these kinds of restrictions on newly added content? It was the same with Terramite, and now this again. You always seem to want the things players obtain to be useful but still feel lackluster, forcing us to grind for them over and over. The fact that the Sanctum and Ruins resets are tied together means every round trip covers an extremely long distance, to the point where you're guaranteed to spend Orb Fragments on travel. And the drop rate for these things is already painfully low. On top of that, creating a teleport point itself costs three fragments. The acquisition method is also way more troublesome than just defeating a boss like before. Now you not only need to beat the Ancient Guard Tower boss, but also spend the better part of a day following Sanctum Waymarks all over the maze to collect Portation Orbs, then go back to a room and break them apart. The time cost is even longer than just riding a Beefalo back and forth — so what exactly is the point of "saving time" with teleportation? In my view, the powerful minion I get from defeating the Ancient Guard Tower already gives me enough incentive to grind repeatedly. Don't be so stingy with boss drops.

[Kondr_]

Thank you and go rest!

[Sofy Happy]

3 hours ago, V2C said:

Fixed bug where you could “deconstruct” a Portation Orb Fragment back into a whole Portation Orb.

No, please don't do this! At the very least, add a reliable way to farm Portation Stones, instead of forcing everyone to wait the full 20 days for the Ancient Gateway to reset.
For example, we could use certain materials obtained after unlocking the Shadow Rift to instantly shorten its cooldown. This would let us repeatedly defeat the bosses in the late game and farm enough Portation Stones efficiently.
 

[Kondr_]

3 hours ago, V2C said:

Fixed bug where you could “deconstruct” a Portation Orb Fragment back into a whole Portation Orb.

I was destroyed when farmed alot of celestial champions by winona for infinity-teleports across map. I look at bosses like tool-unlocker, not a grind wall. bundling wrap, trident, bone armor set + optional rifts, living shield, dupable dragonscales, dupable weather pains, almost-infinity light-lamp, fridge-back-pack, repairable eyebrella, lazy-team-caller e.t.c. mb we can do something else, like unlock portation orb craft ability and deconstruct orbs instead of shards. (p.s. let us dupe celestial-crown once again)

[2ao]

So sad we can't deconstruct Orb Fragments into Portation Orbs.

[Harrowick]

Thank you so much for communicating the future update plan! I did see some concern regarding when part 2 would happen, and this clears it up!! 

really appreciate what you guys are doing! 

[Kacpert25]

5 hours ago, V2C said:

For those wondering, I think there may be a small update when Cawnival returns, but the next main update we're working on is the Shadow update Part 2.

Oh, thank god. That was my biggest concern about the release of the full version of the first part. That we'd have to wait half year for the second part.

Now I feel better after seeing this information, thank you.

3 hours ago, Jenny 05 Justic said:

No, you shouldn't treat this as a bug. Items like Dragon Scale Flooring have always been deconstructable to yield more raw materials 

Dragonfly scales don't give you access to strong teleportation.

Edited 6 hours ago by Kacpert25

[Mike23Ua]

4 minutes ago, Kacpert25 said:

Oh, thank god. That was my biggest concern about the release of the full version of the first part. That we'd have to wait half year for the second part.

Now I feel better after seeing this information, thank you.

Isn’t the update schedule every 3-4 months though? So you’re still technically going to be waiting half this year.. or at least a quarter of the year. But at least there won’t be a skill tree in between.

Its interesting that the Dev mentions the Cawnival though.. it has been ABANDONED for several years now, with no new content, and not even any new Mini-Games to play in the Trade Inns Curiosity's tab. I won’t get my hopes up too terribly high but maybe they’ll actually do something new for the Cawnival 🥺♥️

[Jenny 05 Justic]

27 minutes ago, Kacpert25 said:

Oh, thank god. That was my biggest concern about the release of the full version of the first part. That we'd have to wait half year for the second part.

Now I feel better after seeing this information, thank you.

Dragonfly scales don't give you access to strong teleportation.

Yes, and Orb Fragments won't give your turf fireproof properties, nor will they give you Shroom Skin from a 99999 HP boss to make lamps. So you're just stating an irrelevant fact. So what?

[yyyyyyyyyyyyyyy]

30 minutes ago, Kacpert25 said:

strong teleportation.

Upgrading a Focus costs 3 Orbs, and every portation costs 1. A maximum of 14 Orbs can be obtained every 20 days. It is not a strong teleportation, it is a good idea that has been wasted.

[Jakepeng99]

4 hours ago, Jenny 05 Justic said:

No, you shouldn't treat this as a bug. Items like Dragon Scale Flooring have always been deconstructable to yield more raw materials — why do you always impose these kinds of restrictions on newly added content? It was the same with Terramite, and now this again. You always seem to want the things players obtain to be useful but still feel lackluster, forcing us to grind for them over and over. The fact that the Sanctum and Ruins resets are tied together means every round trip covers an extremely long distance, to the point where you're guaranteed to spend Orb Fragments on travel. And the drop rate for these things is already painfully low. On top of that, creating a teleport point itself costs three fragments. The acquisition method is also way more troublesome than just defeating a boss like before. Now you not only need to beat the Ancient Guard Tower boss, but also spend the better part of a day following Sanctum Waymarks all over the maze to collect Portation Orbs, then go back to a room and break them apart. The time cost is even longer than just riding a Beefalo back and forth — so what exactly is the point of "saving time" with teleportation? In my view, the powerful minion I get from defeating the Ancient Guard Tower already gives me enough incentive to grind repeatedly. Don't be so stingy with boss drops.

No, it doesnt make sense. It’s a deconstruction staff, not a construction staff. In the craft, we are breaking down the orb into fragments.

Besides the Green staff was a sucky solution anyway, the way to obtain it normally should be good and not bandaided by the possibility of duping them. I wish at some point it ends up being something like the old way. Maybe killing all 4 of the guard towers in a room will make the crafting station create some fragments.

Edited 5 hours ago by Jakepeng99

[Cassielu]

I don't like to solve everything with green gem, but getting 14 fragments every 20 days is really too slow.

And the game will even giving you fewer fragments to punish you for fixing the waymarks. This just doesn't make sense.

Edited 5 hours ago by Cassielu

[Jenny 05 Justic]

7 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said:

不，这说不通。这是分解法杖，不是建造法杖。在制作过程中，我们是将宝珠分解成碎片。

再说了，绿宝石法杖本来就是个糟糕的解决方案。正常情况下获取它的方式应该合理，而不是靠复制这种权宜之计。我希望有朝一日能恢复成老版本的方式。也许摧毁房间内全部四座守卫塔后，制作台会产出一些碎片。

This time I agree with you. The green staff duping is indeed a stopgap measure. The root problem is the low yield of orb fragments and how tedious it is to obtain them. The time "saved" by teleportation is pretty much offset by the time wasted in the whole process. On top of that, orb acquisition is currently in such a primitive state — and having to repeatedly farm orbs also undermines the original logic that encouraged players to repair the Sanctum Waymarks.

[yyyyyyyyyyyyyyy]

5 hours ago, V2C said:

Fixed repaired Sanctum Waymarks not properly reverting back to broken state during Sanctum reset.

5 hours ago, V2C said:

Keep in mind that we may revisit the tuning in the future

Repairing Broken Waymarks is not just useless but also punishing? And this won't change until part 2? What does the shortcuts and the puzzles inside the Sanctum even mean now? Obstacles to getting Orbs? I really don't get it. If current acquisition is a placeholder, it is a really, really terrible one.

[Jenny 05 Justic]

Getting orbs right now feels like the Houndius Shootius — not worth the effort, yet too valuable to just ignore. It's a reward for beating multiple bosses, locked behind an elaborate process, and requires defeating the Ancient Fuelweaver just to farm it again. And speaking of the Houndius Shootius — a repaired Clockwork Bishop only costs two rocks, has 900 HP and deals AoE damage. Ancient Guard Towers have 6000 HP and can attack Shadelings. Both of these make Bernie, the pride and joy of a strong character like Willow, look pathetic by comparison. Meanwhile, the Houndius Shootius is also a renewable reward from the final boss and also a stationary guard tower, yet at this point, it's long overdue for a buff.

Edited 5 hours ago by Jenny 05 Justic

[Pig and beefalo]

6 hours ago, V2C said:

Fixed bug where you could “deconstruct” a Portation Orb Fragment back into a whole Portation O

I have an idea. Could we use Astral Detector in Sanctum in the early stage of the game to excavate some buried orb fragments? Every time Sanctum is reset, these hidden orb fragments can be re-excavated.

And after complete a post Shadow Rift questline, Sanctum will open a hidden room where we will get Distilled Knowledge to learn to make a production station that can process and create orb fragments, just like Shadowcraft Plinth and Brightsmithy

PS: I still think it's a bit strange that Keystone can be obtained repeatedly. I hope the plot and process of the main Shadow storyline can be further improved

[Grinek]

everyone getting a strong teleport? HELL NO

only wortox and wanda can teleport across the map HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[Jakepeng99]

2 hours ago, Jenny 05 Justic said:

This time I agree with you. The green staff duping is indeed a stopgap measure. The root problem is the low yield of orb fragments and how tedious it is to obtain them. The time "saved" by teleportation is pretty much offset by the time wasted in the whole process. On top of that, orb acquisition is currently in such a primitive state — and having to repeatedly farm orbs also undermines the original logic that encouraged players to repair the Sanctum Waymarks.

Yeah that’s what I think

[Grinek]

3 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

 

Its interesting that the Dev mentions the Cawnival though.. it has been ABANDONED for several years now, with no new content, and not even any new Mini-Games to play in the Trade Inns Curiosity's tab. I won’t get my hopes up too terribly high but maybe they’ll actually do something new for the Cawnival 🥺♥️

cawnival is my favorite event and its been getting hate for absolute no reason, i really hope it gets an extension this year 

[Cruvimaster]

23 minutes ago, Grinek said:

only wortox and wanda can teleport across the map HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

** Winona, WX: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

** Transfer Pearl to your base:  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

** Bootleg Getaway: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

** Using Telelocator Staff on the character itself (Useful for finding the lunar island quickly.): HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[Uedo]

Hahaha! 

I feel like i could say an 'I told you so' every other week, forgive me for not listening to the bewailers but like, I told you so! 

Great changes Klei

Update: To add onto 'Keep in mind that we may revisit the tuning in the future, when you actually have to complete a post Shadow Rift questline before the Sanctum resets.' they clearly have a want to limit the amount you get right off the bat, I think everyone is ignoring that @V2C might be indicating that after completing the finale (or a quest line before it) we will have more options for getting them. I think they don't want us to go ham with them until the game is 'finished' - which makes complete sense if the world retires into more of a sandbox from that point onwards. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Uedo

[JazzyGames]

This update finally convinced me to start mass cheesing shadow pieces. It’ll be fun killing Fuelweaver and not even clearing ruins.

I really don’t understand why this process has to be so convoluted as a placeholder. Just let us reset the sanctum, guys. Seriously.