Wortox's Knabsack: Is 'Knab' practical for anything?

[ShadowbirdRH]

It can't be used for items further out of reach than one could normally grab, like things in the water or in those little isolated spaces in the ruins (soul hop works though). The only thing having Knab on my weapon ever does is screw up when I try to soul hop out of danger and there happens to be an item in the vicinity, or make me regret not changing my equipment prior to resetting tooth traps.

That aside though, being able to use it like an extra-durable Bug Net is certainly handy, though that's not Knab, so I'm still looking for why that's a thing.

[Baark0]

It feels more like a gimmick, but if you had a lot of things die in very close proximity to each other, I suppose it could speed up looting by a decent amount. Personally I'd rather just use a lazy forager for quick item looting.

[Pruinae]

There are a few scenarios where it is useful.
If you have a bunch of kelp boated up together, you use reaper to cut, and then knab everything; If you are playing with a Wendy you can knab a bunch of killer bees really quickly so she can use shadow affinity (can also use the bees yourself for Crab King if you want); If you have a mob farm that ends up having a lot of loot in one place you can use it for that as well (most notably spider farms for Wortox).

Edited Thursday at 10:34 PM by Pruinae

[Echsrick]

its a very sad reminder of what could have been...something worth using

[WendyHater9000]

It's useful in

1.Picking up pig king gold after doing ruin

2.Spider, monkey and killer bee farm

3.After killing CK

4.Tree farm

5.Kelp farm as mentioned above

I won't say having several specific use while being a 68 dmg weapon is useless.

[Mike23Ua]

I’ve mostly used the thing to catch fireflies at night to refill the miners hat, but it doubling as a Weapon is pretty nifty too.

I just wish it could “knab” small creatures too.. particularly the ones players can catch in Grass Traps.

As an Xbox Player though: The Knab button being on the same button that Soul Hops is annoying as all heck.

[ShadowbirdRH]

5 hours ago, WendyHater9000 said:

I won't say having several specific use while being a 68 dmg weapon is useless

Who is? What I'm questioning is whether its aoe pickup is worth being a liability in combat. It'd be one thing if Knab or a similar ability was on something other than a weapon exclusively made by a character that relies on that button for their ability, but as it is, it makes the Knabsack a double-edged... hobo... sack... thingie.

[Frashaw27]

1 hour ago, ShadowbirdRH said:

Who is? What I'm questioning is whether its aoe pickup is worth being a liability in combat. It'd be one thing if Knab or a similar ability was on something other than a weapon exclusively made by a character that relies on that button for their ability, but as it is, it makes the Knabsack a double-edged... hobo... sack... thingie.

How is it a libaility by having an aoe pickup? The only bosses I can think off that have you pressing the interact button is during Moose/Goose and Bearger who both only have you do so after knocking the thing out of your hand. Maybe it can be detrimental under the condition you mispress and a butterfly is nearby, but I don't see how the knab ability affects it in combat more then the Pick/Axe, Shadow Maul, or Shadow Reaper, all weapons that could have the same issue. Even if your talking about the damage increase, what's wrong with having a full inventory? just create some random things to go into the slots as filler or just bring more gear. Your wortox, it's not like it's that inconvenient to haul your spare equipment back to base.

[ShadowbirdRH]

5 hours ago, Frashaw27 said:

How is it a libaility by having an aoe pickup?

Because as mentioned in the opening post, as well as Mike23Ua's post, it cannibalizes the button used by Soul Hop. Nearby item when you need to soul hop? You're gonna Knab instead and get wrecked, have fun.

[Echsrick]

not to forget, in order to do darksword damage you have to fill up your inventory and then just are not allowed to use the souls in order to keep your darksword damage...you know...the main thing wortox has? the souls?

[GimplyGoose]

1 hour ago, Echsrick said:

not to forget, in order to do darksword damage you have to fill up your inventory and then just are not allowed to use the souls in order to keep your darksword damage...you know...the main thing wortox has? the souls?

I mean the inventory filling thing is kinda trivial to accomplish. It is based on slots filled, not amount you are carrying so you can split up some twigs across all your inventory slots and condense expand them as needed. Sure it adds a bit of micromanagement, but its not difficult to maintain. As for the souls, you can have many souls using jars so you can still freely use them and maintain good damage with the knabsack.

If the knabsack was simply a better dark sword without tradeoffs, I think I would like it less.

[ShadowbirdRH]

I don't have any issue with the way the damage works, I'm just bothered that its knab ability can thwart soul hopping on controller. Even something as simple as fighting off a hound wave among tooth traps can get pretty badly screwed up if you happen to try to soul hop near the traps. Instead, you'll not only sit around for a moment and probably get mauled by multiple hounds, but you'll also disrupt the traps that have been set.

[Echsrick]

2 hours ago, GimplyGoose said:

I mean the inventory filling thing is kinda trivial to accomplish. It is based on slots filled, not amount you are carrying so you can split up some twigs across all your inventory slots and condense expand them as needed. Sure it adds a bit of micromanagement, but its not difficult to maintain. As for the souls, you can have many souls using jars so you can still freely use them and maintain good damage with the knabsack.

If the knabsack was simply a better dark sword without tradeoffs, I think I would like it less.

uhm no? you need several soul jars and are not allowed to use said souls in order to keep your darksword damage

[Mike23Ua]

1 hour ago, ShadowbirdRH said:

I don't have any issue with the way the damage works, I'm just bothered that its knab ability can thwart soul hopping on controller. Even something as simple as fighting off a hound wave among tooth traps can get pretty badly screwed up if you happen to try to soul hop near the traps. Instead, you'll not only sit around for a moment and probably get mauled by multiple hounds, but you'll also disrupt the traps that have been set.

Unfortunately this game is created for PC first, and Console users just get the short end of the Stick.

And there several simple controller friendly fixes for these issues that don’t just plague Wortox, but other characters with various button inputs as well.

Most recently I have discovered that Willows “Stroke Embers” overrides any action you have to press on the D-Pad that uses that same button (eating food items, healing, switching weapons & helmets) trying to interact with a Crockpot etc..) And this WOULDN’T be a problem if Klei actually fit the games actions onto controllers more comfortably.

For Example: Wortox’s current highly annoying soul hop issue can be solved two different ways-

1- They can make it so that tapping B soul hops while holding B down (xbox controller) performs the “Knab”

Or 2- They can make it so you have to scroll to the souls in your inventory or jars and only THEN will the option to Soul Hop pop up.

For Willow, they can make it like option 2, so you have to actually scroll to and select Embers to use them, or they can make it like option 1 where tapping D-pad does all the actions you need the D-pad press for, while HOLDING it in, strokes her Fire Embers.

Why and how this game can not support the difference between a short tap or held button press is beyond my logic.

[GimplyGoose]

26 minutes ago, Echsrick said:

uhm no? you need several soul jars and are not allowed to use said souls in order to keep your darksword damage

You need 100 souls to get peak damage. Carry 3 soul jars and you can use up to 40 without losing any damage. Carry 4 and you can use up to 80. If you have overflowing greed you can carry/use even more. I don't see any problem with how this works.

[Naifxoxo]

On 5/15/2026 at 5:22 AM, Mike23Ua said:

I’ve mostly used the thing to catch fireflies at night to refill the miners hat, but it doubling as a Weapon is pretty nifty too.

I just wish it could “knab” small creatures too.. particularly the ones players can catch in Grass Traps.

As an Xbox Player though: The Knab button being on the same button that Soul Hops is annoying as all heck.

fireflies to fuel minerhat??? ru killing those non renewable flies for fuel

[ShadowbirdRH]

Might be the only option if their world doesn't have caves. Fireflies do have a couple renewable avenues in DST, namely the oasis and waterlogged biomes.

Also, as for knabbing small creatures? I recently ran into a fortuitous rabbit, which highlighted knab as an option, but when I tried, the ****er went wrathful on me. Not sure whether that's a bug Klei needs to address, or just a lesson players like me ought to keep in mind.

[Grove]

2 hours ago, ShadowbirdRH said:

Might be the only option if their world doesn't have caves. Fireflies do have a couple renewable avenues in DST, namely the oasis and waterlogged biomes.

Also, as for knabbing small creatures? I recently ran into a fortuitous rabbit, which highlighted knab as an option, but when I tried, the ****er went wrathful on me. Not sure whether that's a bug Klei needs to address, or just a lesson players like me ought to keep in mind.

I mean, the fortuitous rabbit's whole thing is turning into the rabbit king, wrathful if you have meat/are a monster

[Maxil20]

3 hours ago, Naifxoxo said:

fireflies to fuel minerhat??? ru killing those non renewable flies for fuel

You actually can renew them in quite a few ways now to the point where using them to refuel the miner’s hat isn’t entirely unrealistic. I used to just go to the waterlogged biome to stock up on a few for this purpose, as each giant tree can spawn a firefly every day and cap out at 10 fireflies per tree.

[ShadowbirdRH]

43 minutes ago, Grove said:

I mean, the fortuitous rabbit's whole thing is turning into the rabbit king, wrathful if you have meat/are a monster

Mm. I have my points spread so I can have the Nice perk, which among other things, nullifies my Monster status and allows peaceful unprovoked interaction with pig/bunnymen, but I'd just had a runin with a boss depth worm among hordes of spiders, let the multiple queens deal with the worm, and grabbed what I could before getting out of there, so I probably did have meat on hand.

[Mike23Ua]

5 hours ago, Naifxoxo said:

fireflies to fuel minerhat??? ru killing those non renewable flies for fuel

I play on Endless Mode I think they respawn every night, if they do not, I also reset worlds and start over often so I haven’t noticed fireflies NOT respawn. I just know that the Knabsack can catch them, and that they are a fuel source that does not have an expiration timer.

However: playing on Xbox can be a complete pain, because if you need Fireflies to refuel a Miners Hat, you could mess up and Soul Hop away from the Fireflies instead, right into Darkness. 😭

[ShadowbirdRH]

For that, Soul Jars are your friend. Though you need only 2 to achieve maximum skill damage boost, that leaves you no leeway. A 3rd soul jar half full leaves no strings attached for any other souls in your inventory, and room to stow them as a way to put Soul Hop on 'safety', avoiding accidentally wasting them.

[ShadowbirdRH]

Leveling up my game, knab is handy when dealing with poison birchnut trees. Soul Decoy 3 is wonderful for dealing with the birchnutters, and knab is good for cleaning up the mess that would otherwise interfere with chopping the trees.

Edited Sunday at 02:40 AM by ShadowbirdRH

[Naifxoxo]

On 5/16/2026 at 10:19 PM, Mike23Ua said:

I play on Endless Mode I think they respawn every night, if they do not, I also reset worlds and start over often so I haven’t noticed fireflies NOT respawn. I just know that the Knabsack can catch them, and that they are a fuel source that does not have an expiration timer.

However: playing on Xbox can be a complete pain, because if you need Fireflies to refuel a Miners Hat, you could mess up and Soul Hop away from the Fireflies instead, right into Darkness. 😭

just use light bulbs why would u even use fireflies as fuel

On 5/16/2026 at 7:05 PM, Maxil20 said:

You actually can renew them in quite a few ways now to the point where using them to refuel the miner’s hat isn’t entirely unrealistic. I used to just go to the waterlogged biome to stock up on a few for this purpose, as each giant tree can spawn a firefly every day and cap out at 10 fireflies per tree.

ah yes waste 40 mins for few fuel , that u could get in caves as light bulbs 

Edited Monday at 01:04 PM by Naifxoxo

[Jakepeng99]

On 5/14/2026 at 10:39 PM, ShadowbirdRH said:

It can't be used for items further out of reach than one could normally grab, like things in the water or in those little isolated spaces in the ruins (soul hop works though). The only thing having Knab on my weapon ever does is screw up when I try to soul hop out of danger and there happens to be an item in the vicinity, or make me regret not changing my equipment prior to resetting tooth traps.

That aside though, being able to use it like an extra-durable Bug Net is certainly handy, though that's not Knab, so I'm still looking for why that's a thing.

Cheaper better bug bet

35 minutes ago, Naifxoxo said:

just use light bulbs why would u even use fireflies as fuel

Yeah that is a really bad strategy

On 5/16/2026 at 8:19 PM, Mike23Ua said:

I play on Endless Mode I think they respawn every night, if they do not, I also reset worlds and start over often so I haven’t noticed fireflies NOT respawn. I just know that the Knabsack can catch them, and that they are a fuel source that does not have an expiration timer.

However: playing on Xbox can be a complete pain, because if you need Fireflies to refuel a Miners Hat, you could mess up and Soul Hop away from the Fireflies instead, right into Darkness. 😭

They don’t.

the only place they respawn is the oasis, and the fig biomes.

The best place to get them is the fig biomes